PET & SFS Programs Compatible With Bookworm Pup64

[dogcat]

Wine 8.0 Stable (32-bit & 64-bit) SFS does not appear to work with Bookwormpup64 10.0.8

I believe GLIBC_2.40 is now used

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# winecfg
ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/libexec/connman/libadjtime.so' from /etc/ld.so.preload cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
/usr/lib/wine/wine: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.34' not found (required by /usr/lib/wine/wine)
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Hi vtpup,
Thanks for that update, I will put a note on the appropriate pages warning it won't work on BookwormPup64 10.0.8 and later.

[mikewalsh]

@vtpup / @dogcat :-

Wine 8.0 Stable (32-bit & 64-bit) SFS does not appear to work with Bookwormpup64 10.0.8

I believe GLIBC_2.40 is now used

.....but the AppImage-based WINE-staging Puppy-'portable' build of WINE 9.19 - from here:-

viewtopic.php?p=133078#p133078

.....DOES work. I tried this out a few minutes ago in BWP64, and "old faithful" - PhotoScape (what else?) - fired-up & ran just fine. (Just FYI, like.....in case anyone's interested.)

Mike.

[PipzDex]

PcManFm 1.3.2_4 with all options available

pcmanfm.jpg (117.45 KiB) Viewed 2261 times

Here the link
PCMANFM 1.3.2_4

[mikewalsh]

@vtpup :-

Looks like you're barking up the right tree, after all. Even the guy I get the AppImages from, over at Github, has pulled the same stunt. I just tried WINE 9.20, annnd......like you, the error says glibc 2.40 is now required.

Most of these guys all seem to run, and build on Arch.....and as we all know, since Arch is a "rolling release" that means it's constantly upgrading EVERYTHING to the very newest versions ALL THE TIME. That's not a bad thing in itself, but it does mean that anyone who wants to consume said user's output pretty much has to be running Arch themselves. Something like Debian is no good, since they usually run older, more stable packages, a few releases behind the cutting-edge stuff.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again; if you're going to build stuff for general public consumption, you have to cater for a wide range of environments and use-cases. Building on cutting-edge is a waste of time.....unless you intend to cater just for your fellow distro users.

So; until we get something with a newer glibc OOTB, it looks like v9.19 will be the limit for now. Me, I still use WINE v5.11; it does everything I want from it, and is remarkably stable under use. I'm happy with it; it "works" for me...

Mike.

[vtpup]

@mikewalsh Thanks for confirmation, Mike. BTW when you tried 9.19 WINE staging and it did work, were you on BWP64 ver 10.8? Or were you on 10.6? I couldn't even get the 8.0 WINE sfs working on 10.8 version of BWP64.

Total agreement about no problem using older versions of WINE, for me. I'm just having problems w/ running a WINE 32 program on any WINE version on BWP64 v 10.8, even with usual apt upgrade to architecture.

My main test (and essential) 32 bit program is my 32 bit printer driver. BTW I just got that working finally on F96CE r4. I suspect a similar problem here on BWP. I think the I386 libraries are incomplete from apt, and probably need grafting from our older 32 bit SFS's for puppies (keeping usr merge in mind for locating). That's a guess at the problem.....

@vtpup / @dogcat :-

Wine 8.0 Stable (32-bit & 64-bit) SFS does not appear to work with Bookwormpup64 10.0.8

I believe GLIBC_2.40 is now used

.....but the AppImage-based WINE-staging Puppy-'portable' build of WINE 9.19 - from here:-

viewtopic.php?p=133078#p133078

.....DOES work. I tried this out a few minutes ago in BWP64, and "old faithful" - PhotoScape (what else?) - fired-up & ran just fine. (Just FYI, like.....in case anyone's interested.)

Mike.

[mikewalsh]

@vtpup :-

Okay. Now then:-

To answer your question more fully, when I made that last statement, I was at that point in 10.0.6. I hadn't made the move to 10.0.8. However; I've just set-up a 'test' install of 10.0.8 - a few minutes ago - and to answer your question, yes; WINE-'staging' v9.19 DOES run quite happily here in 10.0.8. Happy?

(I did a quick'n'dirty install to a new directory with a '[test]' designation, and then committed the ultimate sin - for quickness - I copied over my save-folder from 10.0.6. Oh, I know, I know; you're not supposed to do this. But I did just this when radky published the RC5 build of StretchPup a few years ago; swapped the save-folder over from RC4.....and everything continued to work perfectly. As it's so far doing here.)

It's only we 'vets' who do daft stuff like this, along with a reasonably high expectation that things WILL work. Of course, we don't recommend noobs and inexperienced users do this.....unless (like me) you've got oodles of disk space and can afford to set-up a completely 'new' test version alongside an existing, 'working' Pup.

I do this a lot, if I want to try out new ideas.

I shall have to try 9.20 again, now I'm here..... Watch this space.

EDIT:- Okay; WINE-staging v9.20 DOES run here in 10.0.8. I'll get this packaged and uploaded in the next day or so, if anybody really wants it...

Mike.

[wizard]

@mikewalsh

and then committed the ultimate sin - for quickness - I copied over my save-folder from 10.0.6.

IME sometimes it works, and sometimes hidden "GOTCHA'S" are waitng for you .

Thanks
wizard

[mikewalsh]

@wizard :-

Yup; I concur. As things stand, re-creating a new save won't be too painful ATM, since I don't have that much invested in BWP64 yet. As stated above, we definitely wouldn't recommend this course of action to noobs, etc.

Me, I've been messing around with Puppies for long enough by now to have a rough idea of what WILL work (and what won't...)

'Sall part of the fun, buddy. YOU know it as well as I do!

Mike.

[wizard]

@mikewalsh

Sall part of the fun, buddy. YOU know it as well as I do!

Let the Adventure begin!!

Thanks
wizard

[bigpup]

Using an older save in a newer version of a named Puppy will usually work, unless the difference in the versions is drastic.

But it has to be the same Puppy, but just different versions.

Example:
BookwormPup64 10.0.4 to 10.0.6 to 10.0.7 to 10.0.8

I have been doing this in BookwormPup64 since version 10.0.4, using the same save file that was made in 10.0.4

However, anything in the save that is kernel specific has needed to be redone, because each version is using a different Linux kernel.
Example:
I have to redo the install of a nvidia driver package, to get it compiled for the correct kernel, now being used.

Using

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apt upgrade

You can use this to update any of the software you installed using apt package manager, that is going to be in the save.

If you added a lot of pet packages to get added software.

I think the jury is out, on how apt upgrade may affect them.

I agree, a new to Puppy Linux user, it is not a good idea for them to try using an older save, in a newer version of a named Puppy OS.

[dogcat]

Librewolf - mozilla-based security oriented browser - SFS package.

Librewolf is a fork of Firefox, is friendly to set up and comes with Ublock Origin already installed. Librewolf can use all the same extensions/addons that are available for Firefox.
Works fine in BookwormPup64
Link to SFS
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 76#p135676
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Edit This LibreWolf browser runs as user "spot" (spot is a limited user account used primarily to run internet facing applications for better security than user "root" provides)
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[dogcat]

Chromium-Ungoogled Web Browser SFS version 131.0.6778.264 for BookwormPup64

Special thanks goes to alienbob over at Slackware, this SFS is created from his original chromium-ungoogled-131.0.6778.264-x86_64-1alien.txz package.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/kyblbdjo ... p.sfs/file

md5 0185d0f81e74af164db0e5753e7b5cbf

size 122MB

Only tested on BookwormPup64_10-0.9
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Edit This web browser runs as user "spot" (spot is a limited user account used primarily to run internet facing applications for better security than user "root" provides)
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[Thanos]

PcManFm 1.3.2_4 with all options available

pcmanfm.jpg

Here the link
PCMANFM 1.3.2_4

I downloaded you pet file, it is so wonderful!

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[PipzDex]

PcManFm 1.3.2_4 with all options available

pcmanfm.jpg

Here the link
PCMANFM 1.3.2_4

I downloaded you pet file, it is so wonderful!

2025-03-11_06-47.png

Hello @Thanos
Thanks for using my pet
I appreciate your comment on its proper functioning.
Cheers!!

[bigpup]

PcManFm 1.3.2_4 with all options available

Here the link
PCMANFM 1.3.2_4

Installed in BookwormPup64 10.0.10

I get this after installing PcManFm 1.3.2_4 pet.
Doing a reboot, so it is a completely new boot up to desktop.

Sorry but not sure what it is doing.
The drive icons on the desktop are being messed up, in a way that produces multiple different icons, for them.
The icons theme, I had selected to use, in Puppy Icon Switcher program, are there.
But also some other icons, I did not select to use.

The pet is providing some icons, I assume are to be used in the program.
In the pet package is directory /usr/share/icons/
In it is a symbolic link file: Puppy_Standard, that links to Puppy Standard.
Maybe this is the problem.

Uninstalled PcManFm pet and desktop drive icons are now, as they should be.

[PipzDex]

PcManFm 1.3.2_4 with all options available

Here the link
PCMANFM 1.3.2_4

Installed in BookwormPup64 10.0.10

I get this after installing PcManFm 1.3.2_4 pet.
Doing a reboot, so it is a completely new boot up to desktop.

Sorry but not sure what it is doing.
The drive icons on the desktop are being messed up, in a way that produces multiple different icons, for them.
The icons theme, I had selected to use, in Puppy Icon Switcher program, are there.
But also some other icons, I did not select to use.

The pet is providing some icons, I assume are to be used in the program.
In the pet package is directory /usr/share/icons/
In it is a symbolic link file: Puppy_Standard, that links to Puppy Standard.
Maybe this is the problem.

Uninstalled PcManFm pet and desktop drive icons are now, as they should be.

Hi @bigpup

Sorry to hear that
Let me explain this pet

Thie pet are made with desktop drive icons and this are centered on the screen...
Maybe this are the mess of drive icons that you mention
If you want to delete this option can be uninstalled/deactivated deleting the startup link or the program founded in /usr/bin...
This is a standalone program and doesn't have any dependence library or another thing

I hope this info works for you and thanks for try my pet
Cheers!!

[bigpup]

If this is not compatible with BookwormPup64 then it should not be posted.

Why would you want or need anything about desktop drive icons in it?

If this is so it will run PcManFM when you click on a desktop drive icon.

This is not the way to do that.

Default Applications Manager settings will do that.
change file manager to pcmanfm.
Then when you click on a desktop drive icon.
Contents will be shown in pcmanfm.