Is undelete possible?

[Jasper]

@Governor

I do not what what content you are aiming to retrieve but testdisk is for disk recovery.

I had to use it last week.

You need to work away from the drive in question ie from another device.

You need another drive that will adequately meet the size of the one you are attempting to repair.

Ensure, all power saving oprions are turned off. The drive needs to be 'active'.

Testdisk will check each cyclinder/block for data retrieval.

If you have a power saving option, the program will simply stop until you restart your device.

There are a few questions the program will ask you before commencing. Read the FAQ, manual etc before priceeding.

It took me approxinately 2 days to check a 1TB drive.

Once conpleted you have options to create an image of the disk using dd.

This is why you need ample space.

The image will be larger than the capacity of your bad drive.This allows you further options for data recovery.

Or you can rewrite the existing drive with the data/partition tables etc.

Goodluck

[Governor]

Start all programs from a terminal, if a gui pops up, it has a gui. If not, it doesn't.
Also if something doesn't work right, it will generally spit out errors.

And please.......don't tell me this isn't how it's done in windows.

Do you mean all GUI programs can be started at the prompt?

Yes.
Now, your choice to say either:
- Thanks, I learned something !
Or:
- WTF, Why isn't that documented ?! How wrong!.

I'm afraid that you'd choose for the latter (or perhaps some smart comment that includes both, so you can be more sure to have the benefit of the doubt about your intentions).

That is great... and unexpected. Good to know. Thanks!

[Governor]

This has not been explained to me.

help vampires

[geo_c]

This has not been explained to me.

help vampires

I would roll my eyes also after discovering I've run out of issues with actual puppy-linux code, and so found myself resorting to fabricating issues with GTK, ROX, and finally testdisk (the biggest stretch to date) with which to try and claim are now the burden of the puppy-linux community to "fix."

But as has been stated by the OP himself, I often give useful information and help, so I don't look for third party software non-issues for which to complain about and saddle on some "blame" to those who simply use the software in their OS and have no control over the development of that specific code.

Better to go about increasing one's understanding and skillset and be able to help with more consequential questions. Or if not help, at least ask more relevant and productive questions.

[williwaw]

If You’re a Help Vampire…
Now you know. Stop. Of course, it’s not just that easy, or nobody would ever be a Help Vampire at all.

Before you ask a question in a community, try to find the answer elsewhere. This way you help yourself by stretching your mind and research abilities, and you learn things more thoroughly too. Plus it’s good karma.

Always try these avenues first:

Keep troubleshooting. Often we learn that it’s easier to give up and ask for help rather than persisting—when we’d get our breakthrough if we’d only delay giving up for another 10 minutes. Respect yourself, go a little further before giving up.

Google, of course. Google partial error messages, add software names to your queries, and generally try at least 3 or 4 searches before you give it up as hopeless.

Mailing lists, forums, and newsgroups. Chances are, you’re not the first person on the Earth to have this problem. Luckily we live in an age where we can search the past. Check out these resources next.

Docs. Sometimes they seem impenetrable, but give it a whack. The more you learn, the easier the documentation will be to understand and decipher.

Ask your question—but phrase it differently. Instead of asking your question directly, ask “Has anyone has seen this problem?” or “Can anyone point me in the right direction?” Likely as not, someone will have been there before, and they might know a blog posting or other resource which can help you out. This way, you show you are respectful of their time, and understand your problem is (probably) not unique.

https://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/

[Governor]

help vampires

I would roll my eyes also after discovering I've run out of issues with actual puppy-linux code, and so found myself resorting to fabricating issues with GTK, ROX, and finally testdisk (the biggest stretch to date) with which to try and claim are now the burden of the puppy-linux community to "fix."

What I said was;
"You occasionally post useful information, but you are usually aggressive and abusive to me, and I can live without that."
https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 47#p144847

I never made any such claim about testdisk, I merely reported that I couldn't get it to run (but I can now).

But as has been stated by the OP himself, I often give useful information and help, so I don't look for third party software non-issues for which to complain about and saddle on some "blame" to those who simply use the software in their OS and have no control over the development of that specific code.

Better to go about increasing one's understanding and skillset and be able to help with more consequential questions. Or if not help, at least ask more relevant and productive questions.

These personal ad hominem attacks and false claims coming from you are really getting tiresome. Pointing out issues or errors would be welcome in most computing forums.

[geo_c]

I never made any such claim about testdisk, I merely reported that I couldn't get it to run (but I can now).
These personal ad hominem attacks and false claims coming from you are really getting tiresome. Pointing out issues or errors would be welcome in most computing forums.

No. I see no logic in not telling the user that the program cannot be run from the GUI. I have gotten that message plenty of times in Windows.

The reason no protracted discussion took place above about why testdisk should have a gui, and any puppy-linux member's refusal to see the need for it would be a further indication of why puppy-linux is an "unpopular hobby-OS" etc, is because I took the time to point out that this sort of claim is being made over and over, ad nauseum, and wasting the time, energy, and goodwill of the forum.

Unlike ad hominem attacks, where people name call, I'm pointing out repetive destructive behavior, which is not the same thing as being abusive; whereas continuing to refuse to take one's opinion based criticisms of third party software to the developers of the software itself, under the pretense of claiming status of "newbie," and instead making derogatory comments about those who suggest such a proper and logical action, is itself an abusive response to clarification and advice offered.

Example:

Some people wonder why the OS is not more popular. And there you have it.

And what do you do to make it more popular ? Complaining doesn't help, I'd say.
Btw, does it matter if it's popular or not ?
edit: to summarize this thread of 2 pages already:
- Question by the OP: Does anyone have a fix for the right-click file handling error in Rox?
- Answer: No, live with it or try another filemanager.
Done!

I am sure you are right, many people couldn't care less about attracting users, and I can understand that since it is only a hobby OS.
Not too long ago, it was the stated goal in this forum to make Puppy more popular. There was discussion about reorganizing the forum, SEO, even censoring posts, in the interest of gaining popularity. I am merely pointing out that if this OS is to be more popular, it must become more user-friendly, and persistent errors should be fixed. And you can take that to the bank. But as you point out, almost no one is really interested in the welfare of the OS, they are focused on their own use and tinkering.

To sum up: a self-described "newbie" refuses to go to the Rox developers and level a complaint, but rather takes the time and energy to characterize the flaws of the puppy-linux community informing him that Rox is not in the scope of puppy-linux developers to alter.

And people wonder why this behavior would be thought of as a shining example of https://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/

And there you have it.

[Chelsea80]

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[Governor]

8<---- snip
To sum up: a self-described "newbie" refuses to go to the Rox developers and level a complaint, but rather takes the time and energy to characterize the flaws of the puppy-linux community informing him that Rox is not in the scope of puppy-linux developers to alter.

I am a newbie when it comes to Linux, both self-described, and as described by just about everyone else. Since when do newbies go to the developers to point out issues? Especially when no other Linux users in this forum cares about it but me. It is the veteran users and enthusiasts who ought to go to the developers. As a light user, I just want things to work smoothly for me, and if I spot an issue, I share it in the interest of the Puppy community so that others may hopefully take an interest, so that issues can be resolved and the OS improved. I am right the majority of the time about the issues, but I will never be a member of the Puppy inner circle, because that just isn't me. Your demeaning behavior and accusatory tone are not beneficial to anyone including yourself, and potential new users will likely be scared off by it as well as by the persistent GUI errors. Think about it. My advice to everyone is: Don't take anything personally.
Cheers!

[geo_c]

I amSince when do newbies go to the developers to point out issues?

Just about every time a topic on this forum is created by you. See the logic?

a syllogism:
a) I am not qualified as a newbie to point out issues to developers.
b) Puppy-linux members are more qualified to point out bugs than I.
c) I am not qualified to point out bugs to puppy-linux developers.

"Logic is a beautiful thing, as long as it's not abused." -Eugene Ionesco

Your demeaning behavior and accusatory tone are not beneficial to anyone including yourself, and potential new users will likely be scared off by it as well as by the persistent GUI errors. Think about it. My advice to everyone is: Don't take anything personally.
Cheers!

Well, I think having multiple search results on the puppy-linux forum with extended criticisms of the approach, qualifications, and general attitudes of the contributors toward to the code base is FAR MORE DAMAGING and liable to scare someone off than me simply pointing out these dubious criticisms with a snarky attitude equal to the criticisms themseves, especially after a couple of years of these posts accumulating.

But, hard to quantify, I admit.

[fredx181]

8<---- snip
To sum up: a self-described "newbie" refuses to go to the Rox developers and level a complaint, but rather takes the time and energy to characterize the flaws of the puppy-linux community informing him that Rox is not in the scope of puppy-linux developers to alter.

I am a newbie when it comes to Linux, both self-described, and as described by just about everyone else. Since when do newbies go to the developers to point out issues? Especially when no other Linux users in this forum cares about it but me. It is the veteran users and enthusiasts who ought to go to the developers. As a light user, I just want things to work smoothly for me, and if I spot an issue, I share it in the interest of the Puppy community so that others may hopefully take an interest, so that issues can be resolved and the OS improved. I am right the majority of the time about the issues, but I will never be a member of the Puppy inner circle, because that just isn't me. Your demeaning behavior and accusatory tone are not beneficial to anyone including yourself, and potential new users will likely be scared off by it as well as by the persistent GUI errors. Think about it. My advice to everyone is: Don't take anything personally.
Cheers!

Just like you are not obliged to report issues to the developers (of e.g. rox), "veteran" users are also not.
This is "just" a forum, it's not a "team" of Puppy developers that you can held responsible for any flaws in the OS.

People are getting irritated by your behavior (ME TOO!), isn't that something that makes you think that you're perhaps on the wrong track by criticizing so much ?
As you consider yourself being a newbie, I'd say that your first priority should be learning, not criticizing.
(btw, IMO a real motivated student is always eager to learn and will try to find answers himself before asking)
Your questions are always answered thoroughly, so kudos to everyone helping, but it seems to be never enough for you.

[Governor]

I am a newbie when it comes to Linux, both self-described, and as described by just about everyone else. Since when do newbies go to the developers to point out issues? Especially when no other Linux users in this forum cares about it but me. It is the veteran users and enthusiasts who ought to go to the developers. As a light user, I just want things to work smoothly for me, and if I spot an issue, I share it in the interest of the Puppy community so that others may hopefully take an interest, so that issues can be resolved and the OS improved. I am right the majority of the time about the issues, but I will never be a member of the Puppy inner circle, because that just isn't me. Your demeaning behavior and accusatory tone are not beneficial to anyone including yourself, and potential new users will likely be scared off by it as well as by the persistent GUI errors. Think about it. My advice to everyone is: Don't take anything personally.
Cheers!

Just like you are not obliged to report issues to the developers (of e.g. rox), "veteran" users are also not.
This is "just" a forum, it's not a "team" of Puppy developers that you can held responsible for any flaws in the OS.

People are getting irritated by your behavior (ME TOO!), isn't that something that makes you think that you're perhaps on the wrong track by criticizing so much ?
As you consider yourself being a newbie, I'd say that your first priority should be learning, not criticizing.
(btw, IMO a real motivated student is always eager to learn and will try to find answers himself before asking)
Your questions are always answered thoroughly, so kudos to everyone helping, but it seems to be never enough for you.

My impression was that some developers subscribe to this forum too, and may become aware of issues that may need correction. Perhaps I could be mistaken. I am no longer a computer enthusiast, I use bookworm out of necessity, and because it is working despite the issues which I find deeply frustrating. I do not want to spend hours each week studying the OS. That boat has sailed; I did that 30 years ago; two to three hours or more a day for a couple of years. I relatively recently swore off windows, mainly because of the spyware, the monopoly, and the cost. I tried about 10 other minor distros before using fossapup, and I then switched to bookworm which to my delight is a real improvement over fossapup. So far, I have not opted for a mainstream distro, because I like the "do one thing and do it well" philosophy, and I don't want systemd.

I am also under the impression that some of the serious enthusiasts in the forum are on "speaking" terms with one or more developers, but I could be wrong.
I greatly appreciate all the help I have gotten by the generous souls in this forum. In general, I find the lack of user friendliness in the OS a big obstacle and I am angry because there are as many persistent errors as there are, and people do not take them seriously. At present, I can mostly do what I want in the OS, albeit slower than I am used to, and with lots of cursing. I really just want an OS that is easy to use and relatively problem free, OOTB.

My questions are usually answered, and that's a big plus. I have no alternative to this OS, so I plan to stick around. I would be in trouble without the kind people in this forum who are willing to help me, and that's the truth..

[fredx181]

@Governor
Ok, I do understand your frustration. I think most Linux users have been gone through the process of finding out e.g. "What is the best Linux for me".
(for example started with trying Ubuntu and came finally to a decision what OS suits them the most)

If you don't want systemd, there are many without, just do a websearch "linux distros without systemd", for example Devuan (it doesn't include rox or pfind )
Also here on the forum you can find OS's that don't have the JWM/ROX setup, e.g. with XFCE, LXDE Desktop, so in other words: why stick with what you have now if you don't like it very much.

[Governor]

@Governor
Ok, I do understand your frustration. I think most Linux users have been gone through the process of finding out e.g. "What is the best Linux for me".
(for example started with trying Ubuntu and came finally to a decision what OS suits them the most)

If you don't want systemd, there are many without, just do a websearch "linux distros without systemd", for example Devuan (it doesn't include rox or pfind )
Also here on the forum you can find OS's that don't have the JWM/ROX setup, e.g. with XFCE, LXDE Desktop, so in other words: why stick with what you have now if you don't like it very much.

When I was an computer enthusiast, Microsoft visited my webpages frequently. I worked with MSDOS 6.21, 6.22, 7.0 and 7.1. Then, Microsoft killed DOS, and I gave it all up in 2005. It was fun while it lasted, but I basically lost everything; I had 4 very simple batch programs that still worked in NT, and the rest were broken, all 195 of them. I did not want to start over and spend two years learning another OS, especially one which was more complex.

It is not so simple for me to change OS. It took me two years to get to this point with first fossapup and now bookworm, and I do not relish the though of starting over again with a yet another OS. Also, my portable apps would likely be null and void.

[geo_c]

It is not so simple for me to change OS. It took me two years to get to this point with first fossapup and now bookworm, and I do not relish the though of starting over again with a yet another OS. Also, my portable apps would likely be null and void.

A few things about puppy have been pointed out in the past, but they should re-iterated based on what you've said above:

1) puppy is a semi-fixed-in-time OS structure, meaning it's got an end-of-life cycle based on the up-stream package repos from which it's built, meaning at some point, starting over with a newer puppy is a given.

2) once a working boot loader is installed on your machine, adding addtional forum distros is a simple as copying the files to the drive and adding an appropriate boot stanza to launch it.

3) when a newer puppy is produced to replace one going out of date, a newer one may be built from an entirely different upstream repository, and therefore, is a completely different and brand new OS, though retaining basic puppy frugal installation and filesystems.

4) any user who adopts puppy as a daily driver at some point will have to choose to use outdated software when the upstream repository reaches end-of-life, or upgrade to a more recent puppy, i.e. a brand new and different puppy OS.

Based on these realities, users should think carefully about whether a puppy should be adopted as their daily driver. I like puppies a lot, and booted and worked from Bookworm yesterday, but I don't soley rely on them. I rely on Kennel Linux Void mainly because I prefer Void's rolling release model, in which my KLV OS's are frequently upgraded, including all the standard applications, both command line and gui, things like Geany, or LibreOffice. There are however older pieces of software that the newer Void system will not run, Bookworm still runs them, so I have the best of both worlds. You can do that with these frugally installed forum OS's.

So in a nutshell, the more forum OS's you install, the easier and quicker it becomes to adopt new ones, try them, test them, and even blow them off and go back to the one's you like best.

I personally have toyed with the idea of suggesting a forum topic in the GETTING STARTED section, something like "Should I Use Puppy-LInux?" in which some of these aspects of puppy are discussed, and maybe the type of approach a user who is considering puppy as a daily work horse should be ready to embrace.

[williwaw]

Microsoft killed DOS, and I gave it all up in 2005........................ It took me two years to get to this point with first fossapup and now bookworm,

so you have been using something like mac all these years... or?
just curious if fossapup is your first go around with Linux?

[Governor]

Microsoft killed DOS, and I gave it all up in 2005........................ It took me two years to get to this point with first fossapup and now bookworm,

so you have been using something like mac all these years... or?
just curious if fossapup is your first go around with Linux?

What I meant was, I lost most of my enthusasim for computing in 2005. It was like everything I did was for nothing, and I had nothing to show for it. Everything was taken away, and I couldn't share any of what I wrote with a sole. Even ASCII assembler was rendered obsolete. I also knew a guy who wrote around 80 Visual Basic programs and after Microsoft changed one byte of code in the software, every one of his programs was broken. I used a borrowed Macintosh machine for a brief period, but only superficially. I tried Red Hat, before they had a real GUI and I did not take to it at all. It was completely alien to me.

I used Windows for Workgroups 3.11 as long as possible, followed by Windows 95, and then windows 98 as long as possible, and then Windows 7 as long as possible. I finally ended up with a new laptop with windows 10. When that crashed very badly, I decided I just couldn't take windows anymore, and eventually ended up here. I am still a little concerned about the risk of running as administrator, since most distros warn against it, but I feel a sense of freedom and privacy that I did not have with windows. And that is worth a lot.

[williwaw]

a new laptop with windows 10. When that crashed very badly, I decided I just couldn't take windows anymore, and eventually ended up here.

I am not sure I understand. Earlier you stated

When I was an computer enthusiast,

but surely you must have been using windows enthusiastically just before it crashed? Such enthusiasm does have its place. Have you considered?

In 2014, we launched the Windows Insider Program with a vision to bring the Windows community closer to the development process. The goal was simple: to invite passionate Windows customers into the fold, giving them an early look at upcoming features and the chance to provide valuable feedback.............

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows ... s-together

[Governor]

a new laptop with windows 10. When that crashed very badly, I decided I just couldn't take windows anymore, and eventually ended up here.

I am not sure I understand. Earlier you stated

When I was an computer enthusiast,

but surely you must have been using windows enthusiastically just before it crashed? Such enthusiasm does have its place. Have you considered?

In 2014, we launched the Windows Insider Program with a vision to bring the Windows community closer to the development process. The goal was simple: to invite passionate Windows customers into the fold, giving them an early look at upcoming features and the chance to provide valuable feedback.............

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows ... s-together

I lost most of my computer enthusiasm in 2005. The best and coolest thing I ever experienced in computing was ASCII Assembler. You could write a batch script and include an executable program inside the batch in ASCII format, which you would echo into a .com file, line by line. You would then run the .com file(s) from the batch. And also delete any extra files or temp files created. You could do much more than a plain batch could do, and without reliance on external programs. It was all self contained. And you could distribute it everywhere since it was only a text file.

[williwaw]

I lost most of my computer enthusiasm in 2005. The best and coolest thing I ever experienced in computing was ASCII Assembler. You could write a batch script and include an executable program inside the batch in ASCII format, which you would echo into a .com file, line by line. You would then run the .com file(s) from the batch. And also delete any extra files or temp files created. You could do much more than a plain batch could do, and without reliance on external programs. It was all self contained. And you could distribute it everywhere since it was only a text file.

yes of course, you have mentioned this before, but he crux of my question was......
are you an enthusiast again?
or prefer for us to believe you are still a newbie?

If you wish to help by pointing out problems with file managers etc and apps included with distro builds, then perhaps the gnome community would be more responsive, as app development is active and testers are needed
https://os.gnome.org/

on the other hand, puppy development also needs testers. fossapup not any more, but here we are in the bookwormpup section, which is in development. I notice that radky has very little to say in the topics you start here and I guess that's because rox (or whatever app you are commenting on) is nothing he is able to fix and can only choose to either keep it in the next version of bookwormpup or substitute a different app for the same purpose. Perhaps asking the question in a development thread "how can I become an effective tester?" would be useful.

[Governor]

8<----snip

....the crux of my question was......
are you an enthusiast again?
or prefer for us to believe you are still a newbie?

I have some interest, but little free time.

And have you come to this community to contribute or complain?

I came here for help because Linux is alien to me.

If you wish to help by pointing out problems with file managers etc and apps included with distro builds, then perhaps the gnome community would be more responsive, as app development is active and testers are needed
https://os.gnome.org/

on the other hand, puppy development also needs testers. fossapup not any more, but here we are in the bookwormpup section, which is in development. I notice that radky has very little to say in the topics you start here, and I guess that's because rox (or whatever app you are commenting on) is nothing he can fix in his builds and can only choose to keep it in the next version of bookwormpup or substitute a different app for the same purpose in his next build.

If you wish to contribute to a puppy build (or another distro at this forum), asking a question in a development thread "how can I become an effective tester?" would be useful.
Sometimes testing by "newbys" brings fresh insights to developers and experienced users alike, you do seem to have a special knack for that.

As a kindhearted community member, I felt it was "my duty" to the community to speak up when I discovered "issues" that, IMHO, ought to be addressed. Some of them turned out to be not actual issues, while others are dismissed or ignored. The majority of these "issues" have to do with user friendliness and common sense (from my point of view) but experienced users think everything is fine just the way it is, so I will endeavor to keep myself quiet.
Thank you for your suggestions.
Cheers!

PS. @geo_c
If you respond to this post, I will not be reading it, nor any of your future posts.
I find you to be arrogant, condescending, rude, and abusive. You were on my ignore list before, and you got a second chance.
You are now on my ignore list permanently. No third chance.

[geo_c]

If you wish to contribute to a puppy build (or another distro at this forum), asking a question in a development thread "how can I become an effective tester?" would be useful.
Sometimes testing by "newbys" brings fresh insights to developers and experienced users alike, you do seem to have a special knack for that.

As a kindhearted community member, I felt it was "my duty" to the community to speak up when I discovered "issues" that, IMHO, ought to be addressed. Some of them turned out to be not actual issues, while others are dismissed or ignored. The majority of these "issues" have to do with user friendliness and common sense (from my point of view) but experienced users think everything is fine just the way it is, so I will endeavor to keep myself quiet.
Thank you for your suggestions.
Cheers!

It really isn't necessary to go quiet.

It's more a matter of how to frame a question and respond to replies, and expectation of actions from others.

Consider this recent topic: viewtopic.php?t=14080

It's solved in under 24 hours, yet the portable Double Commander Qt6 is not yet running on any of the systems mentioned in the OP.

First the original question is asked after trying to find the answer through a general web search. Then a reply is offered suggesting to test whether a system running QT6 is successful launching Double Commander portable QT (though doing so will not solve the original question, only narrow down a path to the answer.) After the suggestion is tried, the OP's original question is reframed after a little more web searching, a specific member is asked to give input, and his response is somewhat wrong, prompting a different member more knowledgeable to finally give the correct and accurate answer to the original question.

All contributors are thanked, the topic is short, leaves the answer to the question at the bottom post, and now the OP can install QT6 on his originally mentioned systems. If he runs into issues, then a new more defined and focused topic can be started.

There is no complaint that trying to run Double Commander portable didn't bring up a gui message stating that the installed QT system was the wrong version, the OP ran it from a terminal to discover that the QT libraries were not being found.

There is no critiscism of the developers of QT, Double Commander or the forum OS's for not making the need to install QT6 plain in a gui message when trying to run Double Commannder portable-QT6.

And in this way the OP learned something valueable that will carry over into his use of any linux system (or windows and mac also which use QT.)

[williwaw]

The majority of these "issues" have to do with user friendliness and common sense (from my point of view) but experienced users think everything is fine just the way it is, so I will endeavor to keep myself quiet.

I think you will find "issues" with any collection of apps. As for myself, there are quite a few apps that never get used when I run my preferred puppy. My usage of apps as a linux user include utilities that I have been using for twenty years, and I dont expect to find them included in the default selection of apps in any newer distro and have to add them myself. kudos to the debian maintainers that let me easily install my app packages of choice. I think there are something like 20,000 apps maintined by volunteers.

If you like bookwormpup, and wish to help in a meaningful way, you should take the time to read thru viewtopic.php?t=8690
(yes, all 23 pages). It will give you an idea of the testing process and help you understand where the developer seeks/needs input. You dont have to be a contributer if you do not have the time. You are perfectly welcome to be a user.

Linux is alien to me

As fred pointed out earlier, if Rox is not your cup of tea, there are other file managers out there. Even ones that emulate windows explorer. Installing a different file manager is simple enough with apt or synaptics. Be aware tho, that the bookworm dev is interested in his choice of file managers integrating well within bookworm pup. He is also interested in having his choice of package managers work well. He may even be generous enough to assist with troublsome installs if he has time.

Should you try something different from Rox, configuring an alternative file manager to perform flawlessly with bookwormpup is a different issue that you may be able to get some help with in the general puppy user section.

PS.

PS. @geo_c
If you respond to this post, I will not be reading it, nor any of your future posts.
I find you to be arrogant, condescending, rude, and abusive. You were on my ignore list before, and you got a second chance.
You are now on my ignore list permanently. No third chance.

I dont think there is any reason to announce to the world who you decide to put on your ignore list

[fredx181]

PS. @geo_c
If you respond to this post, I will not be reading it, nor any of your future posts.
I find you to be arrogant, condescending, rude, and abusive. You were on my ignore list before, and you got a second chance.
You are now on my ignore list permanently. No third chance.

I dont think there is any reason to announce to the world who you decide to put on your ignore list

Also, better always try to learn from who you consider being your "enemy" (or whatever, e.g. aggressor )

[geo_c]

PS. @geo_c
If you respond to this post, I will not be reading it, nor any of your future posts.

I humbly respect the decision. The original plan to endeavor to keep quiet was perhaps the best strategy after all.

A Syllogism
a) It is my duty to speak up about "common sense issues"
b) "Common sense" is apparently not so common here
c) I will neglect my duty and endeavor to keep quiet

"Logic is a very beautiful thing, as long as it's not abused." -Eugene Ionesco

note: the fact that the OP "grandfathered" in his P.S clause after an additional post was already added in no way goes unnoticed.