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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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@ all

My advice is not to torment Barry with secondary problems at the moment, like browsers, print drivers et similia. Those are just details, there are thousands of ways of installing and running any browser. Those are the last details for an operating system, the things to do last. One can always keep on using Scarthgap for a while.

Please let him concentrate on more important questions (E.g.: integration of KDE apps, letting LibreOffice from the Debian repo work etc...). I think that this Daedalus can really become the next big thing in the Linux world with just a little bit of refinement.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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BarryK wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:23 am
tammi806 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:49 am

When RC become a final release does the RC automatically update to a final release or do we have to do a new raw install.

Just the usual desktop "update" icon.

Cool 8-) Thanks.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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Federico wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:23 am

@ all

My advice is not to torment Barry with secondary problems at the moment, like browsers, print drivers et similia. (E.g.: integration of KDE apps, letting LibreOffice from the Debian repo work etc...). I think that this Daedalus can really become the next big thing in the Linux world with just a little bit of refinement.

@Federico , the problem is "what are secondary problems?"

My oppinion, let's tell @BarryK all the problems that we can find and let him decide in which one is going to put his attention.

Plz, understand me, some days ago, I wrote about a problem with evince and for sure some people consider it a small problem, but for me it could be the reason to continue using EasyOS_daedalus or forget it till it will be a final version.

So for me it is better let Barry decides. What do you think?

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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pp4mnklinux wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:25 pm

@Federico , the problem is "what are secondary problems?"

My oppinion, let's tell @BarryK all the problems that we can find and let him decide in which one is going to put his attention.

Plz, understand me, some days ago, I wrote about a problem with evidence and for sure some people consider it a small problem, but for me it could be the reason to continue using EasyOS_daedalus or forget it till it will be a final version.

So for me it is better let Barry decides. What do you think?

First of all: it is called Evince, not Evidence! The fact that you don't call things with their names tells a lot about yourself.

Secondly, Barry decides anyway... and what I do not understand, is why does Barry being the moderator never ban people from his forum.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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Says Feedback Welcome in this link.
https://bkhome.org/news/202410/easyos-d ... -64rc.html

If I have feedback I'm going to post it.
If feedback wasn't wanted than it would not have been asked for imo.

Good day to everyone. ;)

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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tammi806 wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:11 pm

Says Feedback Welcome in this link.
https://bkhome.org/news/202410/easyos-d ... -64rc.html

If I have feedback I'm going to post it.
If feedback wasn't wanted than it would not have been asked for imo.

Good day to everyone. ;)

You are perfectly right... but, for example, bothering for a non-working dual boot configuration with an operating system which has just been released and everyone is trying to fix... is not exactly giving a feedback I think.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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@foederico Your comments are blocked now, so please, don't waste your time with me, I will never read them.

Your private messages will never be read.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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Just updated to 6.3.93. Repeated the procedure for recovering Dolphin functionality. It worked. Since it is quite simple once one has the file kf5-applications.menu, I was thinking that it could maybe be incorporated onto the system update script someway, or just added to the menu in case no other / better solution would be found.
Unfortunately I also have to report that the system has somehow become less stable on my hardware. About a half of the times it hangs totally after the X server has started (it becomes unresponsive). It may be linked to the non-perfectly working network driver. I remind you that I'm using the german locale.

Hardware:

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# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 11th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 01)
0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] (rev 01)
0000:00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP Dynamic Tuning Processor Participant (rev 01)
0000:00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Thunderbolt 4 PCI Express Root Port #0 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Thunderbolt 4 PCI Express Root Port #2 (rev 01)
0000:00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation GNA Scoring Accelerator module (rev 01)
0000:00:0d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Thunderbolt 4 USB Controller (rev 01)
0000:00:0d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Thunderbolt 4 NHI #0 (rev 01)
0000:00:0d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Thunderbolt 4 NHI #1 (rev 01)
0000:00:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation Volume Management Device NVMe RAID Controller
0000:00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 xHCI Host Controller (rev 20)
0000:00:14.2 RAM memory: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Shared SRAM (rev 20)
0000:00:14.3 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX201 (rev 20)
0000:00:15.0 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 20)
0000:00:15.1 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 20)
0000:00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Management Engine Interface (rev 20)
0000:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev 20)
0000:00:1d.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation RST VMD Managed Controller
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP LPC Controller (rev 20)
0000:00:1f.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller (rev 20)
0000:00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP SMBus Controller (rev 20)
0000:00:1f.5 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP SPI Controller (rev 20)
0000:57:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
10000:e0:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev 20)
10000:e1:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Intel Corporation SSD 660P Series (rev 03)
# lscpu
Architecture:             x86_64
  CPU op-mode(s):         32-bit, 64-bit
  Address sizes:          39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
  Byte Order:             Little Endian
CPU(s):                   8
  On-line CPU(s) list:    0-7
Vendor ID:                GenuineIntel
  BIOS Vendor ID:         Intel(R) Corporation
  Model name:             11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz
    BIOS Model name:      11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz To Be Filled By O.E.M. CPU @ 2.4GHz
    BIOS CPU family:      205
    CPU family:           6
    Model:                140
    Thread(s) per core:   2
    Core(s) per socket:   4
    Socket(s):            1
    Stepping:             1
    Frequency boost:      enabled
    CPU(s) scaling MHz:   35%
    CPU max MHz:          2401,0000
    CPU min MHz:          400,0000
    BogoMIPS:             4840,00
    Flags:                fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc art arch
                          _perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid s
                          se4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault epb cat_l2 cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp ibrs_enhanced t
                          pr_shadow flexpriority ept vpid ept_ad fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdt_a avx512f avx512dq rdseed adx smap avx512ifma clflushopt clwb intel_pt avx
                          512cd sha_ni avx512bw avx512vl xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves split_lock_detect dtherm ida arat pln pts hwp hwp_notify hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_pkg_req vnmi avx512vbmi 
                          umip pku ospke avx512_vbmi2 gfni vaes vpclmulqdq avx512_vnni avx512_bitalg avx512_vpopcntdq rdpid movdiri movdir64b fsrm avx512_vp2intersect md_clear ibt flush_l1d arch_c
                          apabilities
Virtualization features:  
  Virtualization:         VT-x
Caches (sum of all):      
  L1d:                    192 KiB (4 instances)
  L1i:                    128 KiB (4 instances)
  L2:                     5 MiB (4 instances)
  L3:                     8 MiB (1 instance)
Vulnerabilities:          
  Gather data sampling:   Mitigation; Microcode
  Itlb multihit:          Not affected
  L1tf:                   Not affected
  Mds:                    Not affected
  Meltdown:               Not affected
  Mmio stale data:        Not affected
  Reg file data sampling: Not affected
  Retbleed:               Not affected
  Spec rstack overflow:   Not affected
  Spec store bypass:      Mitigation; Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Spectre v1:             Mitigation; usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Spectre v2:             Mitigation; Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB conditional; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS SW sequence; BHI SW loop, KVM SW loop
  Srbds:                  Not affected
  Tsx async abort:        Not affected
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I have read this announcement and I'm really excited. At least "on paper", this would be the biggest improvement for EasyOS in a while I think. If we put together this improvement and the enlargement of the repository, EasyOS could be really projected towards the olympus of operating systems. I know that Linux only makes up for 4,7% of the desktop operating systems. However I think that this percentage will inevitably climb.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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I would like to report that at variance with previous releases of EasyOS (non Devuan) I am unable to start it in VirtualBox. It boots fine until X, the problem seems related to the graphic driver, as X don't start even setting vesa or modesetting drivers. I tried tweaking the graphic setting in VBox to no joy. Maybe a missing driver in kernel?

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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My version was late, my apologies. Evince works perfectly well with 6.3.93. You work too fast and too well, I was still at the .92. Sorry for the inconvenience. It is always unpleasant to report problems that have already been resolved.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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butiliero wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:00 am

I would like to report that at variance with previous releases of EasyOS (non Devuan) I am unable to start it in VirtualBox. It boots fine until X, the problem seems related to the graphic driver, as X don't start even setting vesa or modesetting drivers. I tried tweaking the graphic setting in VBox to no joy. Maybe a missing driver in kernel?

Easy Daedalus has virtio driver. Easy Scarthgap has virtio and vmware drivers. Easy Kirkstone has vmware driver.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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n00b wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:38 pm
butiliero wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:00 am

I would like to report that at variance with previous releases of EasyOS (non Devuan) I am unable to start it in VirtualBox. It boots fine until X, the problem seems related to the graphic driver, as X don't start even setting vesa or modesetting drivers. I tried tweaking the graphic setting in VBox to no joy. Maybe a missing driver in kernel?

Easy Daedalus has virtio driver. Easy Scarthgap has virtio and vmware drivers. Easy Kirkstone has vmware driver.

Thanks n00b. Well then, it seems that the culprit may be the missing vmware drivers, as both Scarthgap and Kirkstone boot just right without much fiddling around.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)

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butiliero wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:58 pm
n00b wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:38 pm
butiliero wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:00 am

I would like to report that at variance with previous releases of EasyOS (non Devuan) I am unable to start it in VirtualBox. It boots fine until X, the problem seems related to the graphic driver, as X don't start even setting vesa or modesetting drivers. I tried tweaking the graphic setting in VBox to no joy. Maybe a missing driver in kernel?

Easy Daedalus has virtio driver. Easy Scarthgap has virtio and vmware drivers. Easy Kirkstone has vmware driver.

Thanks n00b. Well then, it seems that the culprit may be the missing vmware drivers, as both Scarthgap and Kirkstone boot just right without much fiddling around.

Yes. It seems that the virtio video driver does not work in Virtualbox. You could try qemu. virt-manager (virt-manager.org) is a good GUI for qemu on Linux. There don't seem to be very good graphical user interfaces for Windows.

I installed xserver-xorg-video-vmware_13.3.0-3.1+b1_amd64.deb package from Easy 6.3.93 repository and now Easy 6.3.93 boots with vmware driver in qemu. (I changed the video model type to vmvga on the xml tab in virt-manager).

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mtpaint 3.50.10 needed

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A warning to BarryK that before you release Easy Daedalus 6.4 you should
upgrade to mtpaint version 3.50.10
since it is needed to open webp files.

Everything else worked fine in Easy Daedalus 6.3.93 (6.4 RC1)
I noticed from blog that you are upgrading mtpaint in Scarthgap version 5.0.4
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6.4 installed (ready to test) .-

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Let's see how it works (fine 4 sure)

6.4 EasyOS_daedalus.

I am using FF 131 portable edition, because the default one is ESR 115 - sniff, sniff.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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Changed to Chromium, Zig support in the devx.
Blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202410/easyos-d ... n-641.html

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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BarryK wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:43 pm

Changed to Chromium, Zig support in the devx.
Blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202410/easyos-d ... n-641.html

@BarryK
Is there any need to upgrade to 6.4.1 from 6.4 just curious.

Thanks.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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Hello.

I have updated easy daedalus to 6.4.1.
It seems that the login and security manager still doesn't work properly.
I can't switch chromium from non-root to root.

I am not so worried, because I run chromium as root by hitting the executable directly.
The login and security manager of Kirkstone and Scarthgap works fine.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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thinkpadfreak wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:56 am

Hello.

I have updated easy daedalus to 6.4.1.
It seems that the login and security manager still doesn't work properly.
I can't switch chromium from non-root to root.

I am not so worried, because I run chromium as root by hitting the executable directly.
The login and security manager of Kirkstone and Scarthgap works fine.

Yes, the simplest solution is just run "chromium.bin" to run as root.

You can make this permanent by editing /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and "Exec" line in /usr/share/applications/chromium.desktop

And you will probably have to add "--no-sandbox"

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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tammi806 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:34 am
BarryK wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:43 pm

Changed to Chromium, Zig support in the devx.
Blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202410/easyos-d ... n-641.html

@BarryK
Is there any need to upgrade to 6.4.1 from 6.4 just curious.

Thanks.

Not really, unless you want to change the builtin browser to Chromium,
or want to get into Zig programming!

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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BarryK wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:19 am

Yes, the simplest solution is just run "chromium.bin" to run as root.

You can make this permanent by editing /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and "Exec" line in /usr/share/applications/chromium.desktop

And you will probably have to add "--no-sandbox"

Thanks.
/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser is something like this:

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#!/bin/sh
export -n XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
/usr/lib/chromium/chromium --no-sandbox --disk-cache-dir=/tmp "$@"

Somehow. the environment variable "XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" is set, which prevents the Japanese input system from working with Chromium. So I have to unset it.

Also, I found that a few lines I had added to .xinitrc to enable the Japanese input system disappeared after I loaded the devx sfs.
Such a thing didn't happen before.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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@BarryK

Just curiosity:

You had changed from fitefox to cromium. Is there any "important reason" to do this change or is simply for any "aesthetic/personal preferences" reason?

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I asked u this because I prefer FF to chromium but (as always for me, haha) that could be changed without any special problem (I am used to do this using the 'default applications chooser).

Thanks a lot and have a nice day u all.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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thinkpadfreak wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:54 am

Also, I found that a few lines I had added to .xinitrc to enable the Japanese input system disappeared after I loaded the devx sfs.
Such a thing didn't happen before.

It is difficult to do anything about that.
The initrd does a lot of automatic "cleaning up" when sfs layers change.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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pp4mnklinux wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:59 am

@BarryK

Just curiosity:

You had changed from fitefox to cromium. Is there any "important reason" to do this change or is simply for any "aesthetic/personal preferences" reason?

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I asked u this because I prefer FF to chromium but (as always for me, haha) that could be changed without any special problem (I am used to do this using the 'default applications chooser).

Yes, I prefer chromium.

Minor reasons, like the refresh icon in ff requires the shift key to be held down to fully refresh a page -- that I find very annoying. And, well, I just like chromium more.

But no problem for anyone who wants ff, just choose "download latest firefox" from the menu.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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Hi @BarryK ,
I was curious (not because of vscode)& looked at your build-rox-sendto , following your post, viewtopic.php?p=134351#p134351
In the script here is :
#200407 add packit "ALL" (will join bcrypt and ghasher in menu)
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packit) MIMEDIR='ALL' ;;

As to my knowledge it is not build in anymore ?
and what about uextract which you've added in early pre-openembeded Easyos 2.2-.3 ?

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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BarryK wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:20 am
tammi806 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:34 am
BarryK wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:43 pm

Changed to Chromium, Zig support in the devx.
Blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202410/easyos-d ... n-641.html

@BarryK
Is there any need to upgrade to 6.4.1 from 6.4 just curious.

Thanks.

Not really, unless you want to change the builtin browser to Chromium,
or want to get into Zig programming!

Cool Thanks Barry K. :thumbup2:

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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Okay so just for the hell of it I went ahead and installed 6.4.1 Daedalus onto internal hard drive and it seems to work well with one exception.

When using Chromium to stream Youtube videos that works okay until I open another browser on a different desktop or anywhere for that matter and the web page I'm streaming closes and I know that ain't right.

Only does it on Chromium browser seems I've had this issue before when using Google Chrome and that's a deal killer for me using Chromium and anything Google Chrome related.

I don't open multiple tabs as ya accidentally close one tab ya kill them all so I open a whole new browser.

This is why I prefer Firefox just seems to work better for me.

Okay just though I'd pass that on.

Have a good day all.

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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Vverve wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:34 am

Hi @BarryK ,
I was curious (not because of vscode)& looked at your build-rox-sendto , following your post, viewtopic.php?p=134351#p134351
In the script here is :
#200407 add packit "ALL" (will join bcrypt and ghasher in menu)
+
packit) MIMEDIR='ALL' ;;

As to my knowledge it is not build in anymore ?
and what about uextract which you've added in early pre-openembeded Easyos 2.2-.3 ?

I've got a really flakey memory, can't remember anything about packit and uextract.
Are they good to have?

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Re: Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

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Hi @BarryK

BarryK wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:30 am

Hi @BarryK ,
Are they good to have?

Packit and uextract tools are , with right-click options , very handy .
This old forum post was about it ;
https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtop ... 1&start=90 . edit:hmm,looking at it i did not read it all ,or do not remember if i did...
Both are still maintained alive by JakeSFR .
Memory speaking ,my ''hard drive'' does skip info too !

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