TazPuppy 5.0 RC12 (Slitaz-based Puppy hybrid)

[mistfire]

@TerryH

Based from boot logs hat you send I saw this line from the boot log

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*******
Last soundcard
8086:160c
8086:9ca0
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Current soundcard
8086:9ca0
*******

The sound device 8086:160c seems appear and disappear. I wonder what audio device is this? That's why I asked if there is external sound devices plugged to your computer

[TerryH]

Each boot was the same, nothing added. I have no additional soundcards.

[mistfire]

@TerryH

May I see the onboard-devices.lst from /var/hwdata when you started TazPuppy? Please upload here on this thread

[TerryH]

@TerryH

Based from boot logs hat you send I saw this line from the boot log

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*******
Last soundcard
8086:160c
8086:9ca0
-----------
Current soundcard
8086:9ca0
*******

The sound device 8086:160c seems appear and disappear. I wonder what audio device is this? That's why I asked if there is external sound devices plugged to your computer

This information only appears in 2 of the boots which failed to have sound working (boot 2 and boot 6), I would have thought that it should have been included in boot 3 which also failed.

8086:160c is Broadwell U Audio Controller (which is internal PCH sound)
8086:9ca0 is WildcatPoint-LP High Definition Controller (which would be HDMI)

I have include the onboard-devices.lst, which includes both entries. The soundcards.lst also includes an entries for both devices. Both of these files appear the same whether soound works or fails on boot.

Thanks for your effort to assist in this issue. As it is a minor problem with an easy manual correction, I would think that unless it becomes a more widespread problem that you not spend more time on this at present.

[mistfire]

@TerryH

Did you plug/unplug your HDMI device upon boot/shutdown TazPuppy?

[TerryH]

@TerryH

Did you plug/unplug your HDMI device upon boot/shutdown TazPuppy?

@rockedge oops, I mistakenly reported this post, meaning to reply to it. My excuse, I'm using a tablet and don't have my glasses on. Thinking back, I may have done this yesterday on another thread, which a post I made that didn't appear.

@mistfire My apologies for the above error.

In reply to your above post. I only use internal speakers. I don't plug any hdmi equipment. Unfortunately all linux systems want to use hdmi as the default. Why wouldn't internal features take precedence? It's very annoying.

[Pazzo]

TazPuppy 5.0 RC11 released

Hi, I haven't had much time to test it this past week, but I downloaded the last release RC11, and instead of creating an USB, I just opened the ISO, and copied the files over to my installation folder (vmlinuz, puppy_tazpup_5.0.sfs and zdrv_tazpup_5.0.sfs, only, since those were the ones originally there).

Booted fine, no problems. I'll keep updating and testing. Thanks!

[Pazzo]

One note, though. After doing the copy'n'paste of the files, a couple of days later I tried to boot the ISO from an USB, used unetbootin, but the USB wasn't bootable. So I tried another USB creator, Balena Etcher, and it reported that the ISO would not be bootable.

It never happened with the previous.

[ljlj]

regards
tazpup is the best linux os

can you start new project-
micro tazpuppy
under 100 mb

thanks

[mistfire]

regards
tazpup is the best linux os

can you start new project-
micro tazpuppy
under 100 mb

thanks

Sure, no problem. You can make your own project either using remaster or use the tazpuppy build kit
Take note, keep an eye on slitaz cooker and slitaz community activity.

[ljlj]

regards
VIDEO PLAY CONSUM CPU MEM
tazpuppy rc 11 works great
BUT-video consum of cpu is
over 90 %, temperature 74 celsius
lxpup-slacko 632, debiandog
only 25 %
temperature 54 celsius
----------------------
video in browser consum
in tazpupp is over 100 %,
in lxpup and debiandog 50 %
-----------------------
wifi is the best in tazpupp
-----------------
micro tazpupp should be 32 bit
under 100 mb for old computers
with 1gb ram , kernel split -separeted of
sfs file

please, take care on video consum
and temperature
-----------------------------
i can test on intel and nvidia computers

thanks

[mistfire]

regards
VIDEO PLAY CONSUM CPU MEM
tazpuppy rc 11 works great
BUT-video consum of cpu is
over 90 %, temperature 74 celsius
lxpup-slacko 632, debiandog
only 25 %
temperature 54 celsius
----------------------
video in browser consum
in tazpupp is over 100 %,
in lxpup and debiandog 50 %
-----------------------
wifi is the best in tazpupp
-----------------
micro tazpupp should be 32 bit
under 100 mb for old computers
with 1gb ram , kernel split -separeted of
sfs file

please, take care on video consum
and temperature
-----------------------------
i can test on intel and nvidia computers

thanks

Did you check on the task manager which program has the highest usage? Try also swapping the kernel and zdrv modules from other puppies. Don't forget to rename the zdrv modules to zdrv_tazpup_5.0.sfs

[ljlj]

regards

when can we expect MICRO TAZPUP XFCE 32 BIT?

thanks

[mistfire]

regards

when can we expect MICRO TAZPUP XFCE 32 BIT?

thanks

TazPuppy was always LXDE by default. But still you can install xfce4 or build using the TazPuppy Builder (available at the first post of this thread).
There is also biggest changes to be happen on SliTaz. I'm monitoring the situation on their forum before releasing a new version again (if I have spare time)

[Clarity]

@ljljcould you post a hardinfo or a sysinfo report of your PC to see what the Taz is running on giving the problem?

[ljlj]

regards
Clarity answer is in image

when can we expect MICRO TAZPUP lxde?

thanks

[Clarity]

@ljlj I see your requests for a 32bit flavor to match your need. Would this help in the meantime?

Hope this is helpful to get you going.

[ljlj]

when will be new micro iso?

[TerryH]

when will be new micro iso?

@mistfire had answered you the first time you asked this question.

This was the answer:

Sure, no problem. You can make your own project either using remaster or use the tazpuppy build kit
Take note, keep an eye on slitaz cooker and slitaz community activity.

Note: Bold highlighting by me.

[ljlj]

is this projekt dead?why?tazpup is much better than quickpup!!!

[mistfire]

is this projekt dead?why?tazpup is much better than quickpup!!!

Nope this project is not dead. Rather its in dormant state because of the slow progress of SliTaz project. The problem now SliTaz was their packages were heavily outdated especially their Xorg-server, its lack of glamour acceleration in order to deal with newer intel videocards and also their GLIBC was outdated too. I frequent monitor the situation on SliTaz community. I hope they will upgrade these very essential packages. If they releasing a new updated package on their rolling release. I will release the new TazPuppy too.

[ljlj]

glibc rpm works perfectly!!!

[mistfire]

glibc rpm works perfectly!!!

I prefer using slitaz glibc. because it allows tazpup to setup slitaz cooker, an automated slitaz compiling tool. Also it makes slitaz builder easier to maintain

[mistfire]

TazPuppy 5.0 RC12 released

Changes:
* Built from tazpuppy builder online mode.
* More upstream to slitaz than previous one.
* New initrd iteration. It ask save session setup on boot instead of shutdown process.
* Can now boot from iso using GRUB.
* LUKS save file encryption (old cryptoloop was dropped in favor of LUKS).
* Improved package management.
* Improved tazcook-sfs utilities.
* Improved sanderdog
* Tazpkg package manager will only update main sfs builtin packages and user installed packages but still can see the installed packages from sfs modules as dependencies (if sfs modules was built using tazcook-sfs).
* Improved core scripts.

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1faH2Rg ... sp=sharing
MD5 Checksum: 32f275ed42eec072b1ea3de4d53232f4

Build kit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XBnQwu ... sp=sharing

[ljlj]

regards
latest firefox and chromium
can work?
florence virtual keyboard can save
settings?
can smplayer work in full screen?
can pulseaudio work?

[mistfire]

regards
latest firefox and chromium
can work?
florence virtual keyboard can save
settings?
can smplayer work in full screen?
can pulseaudio work?

If firefox and chromium was compiled against glibc 2.14 it will work.

smplayer full screen maybe depend on video card support.

Theoretically pulseaudio might work.

UPDATE: pulseaudio works by installing it from tazpkg

[ljlj]

regards
sorry but noone can work!!!

[mistfire]

regards
sorry but noone can work!!!

May I ask, where did you get firefox and chromium?

[ljlj]

regards
pulelsaudio can not work
florence keyboard can not save settings
micro tazpuppy under 100mb!
iso file is more than 3 times
biger than slitaz!!!
can you add android apk?
thanks

[mistfire]

regards
pulelsaudio can not work
florence keyboard can not save settings
micro tazpuppy under 100mb!
iso file is more than 3 times
biger than slitaz!!!
can you add android apk?
thanks

Slitaz has very limited kernel modules by default
TazPuppy has complete set of kernel modules which the kernel version was fairly recent.

Also the latest TazPuppy includes the complete set of xorg-drivers, mesa, and llvm which makes the main sfs bigger.

If you have a good internet connection. You can build a smaller version of TazPuppy by using the build kit tools which I provided which was very easy to use.

Download the tazpuppy build kit. Link is on the first page of this page.

Boot puppy.

Load devx sfs modules if possible.

Get the puppy iso cd.

Extract the build kit

Edit essential-packages.txt (the list of packages that you want to be included on TazPuppy)

Edit post-install-remove.txt (for the extra packages to be removed after installing the essential packages)

Run make-tazpup.sh and follow instructions.