Fossapup64 9.5 built with puppy .pets & ubuntu focal-fossa packages.
Kernel 5.4.53
Modular build means you can swap out the kernel, applications & firmware in seconds
Want a minimal bare bones puppy? Easy just remove a single file and reboot.
Joe's Window Manager (JWM).
Rox-Filer.
Hexchat.
Palemoon Browser.
MPV, Deadbeef & Gogglesmm (good for large music collections) media players.
Claws Email.
Quickpet.
Osmo.
Abiword.
Samba.
Lots of in house puppy-specific applications such as Pburn, PuppyPhone, Find'n'run, Take A Gif, Uextract, Packit, Dunst-config, Picom-gtk, Transtray, Janky Bluetooth, Change_kernels, JWMdesk, YASSM, Redshift, SimpleGTKradio.
Thanks to all developers, contributors & testers !!!! this includes barry k the original developer of puppy, 01micko the current maintainer of puppy, everyone at woofCE, everyone who participated in the fossapup thread giving feedback and finding bugs, everyone who gave feedback on irc #puppylinux chat,
and all other contributers to puppylnux (too many to name) without which fossapup64 wouldn't be possible.
approx minimum System Requirements: 2007 era 64bit core2duo cpu & 2gb ram
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This differs from usual pups by being more modular, sort of a two pups in one. Rather than just the main puppy.sfs and zdrv.sfs (kernel) there's also the puppys fdrv & adrv utility. So say for instance you just want a bare bones system, you can remove the adrv and get a small 180mb puppy. it can go even smaller if you use tahrpups firmware in the fdrv to something nearing 150mb. You could even compile a new smaller kernel for the zdrv and go even smaller.
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what the different drvs.sfs give you: .....
puppy_fossapup64_9.5.sfs 97mb
a basic system that boots to desktop. no dri drivers, no apps apart from dillo, urxvt & leafpad
adrv_fossapup_9.5.sfs 229mb
this will give you a regular puppy, abiword, mtpaint palemoon etc
fdrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs 40mb
this is the firmware separated from the kernel and is easy to edit and change
zdrv_fossapup64_9.5.sfs 27mb
this is the kernel and can easily be changed with change_kernels
note that the puppy.sfs requires a zdrv.sfs & fdrv.sfs, the adrv requires the puppy.sfs,zdrv.sfs & fdrv.sfs.
A video showcasing some of what puppy can do can be seen here
Current issues
not able to set mouse speed with pupx or input wizard. can be set manually in xorg.conf
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.3 RC1
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:51 am
by darry19662018
Thanks Phil,
Will play and try out.
P.s. Tried on HP DV6000 All working well, connected, sound video, all working well.
Deleted A sfs and wow what a trimmed down Pup added what I needed - no problems thus far on a machine with 1 gig ram.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.3 RC1
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:31 am
by TiredPup
I have installed this release to my Dell Optiplex 760 USFF with 3.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (E8400), 4Gb RAM to HDD. I included the ADRV in this setup.
The flashing window issue that I experienced in the previous releases is present in RC1. I noticed that the picom app is missing from the menu so I edited the file in /root/.config/picom/ and that has worked.
In the previous release when I installed inxi 3.0 from Ubuntu repos inxi would complain that python deps were not installed. They are installed as part of the original build. Re installing python from package manager would "fix" this problem. However, in RC1 the program complains
Can't locate Data/Dumper.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Data::Dumper module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.30.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.30.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.30 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.30 /usr/share/perl/5.30 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base) at /usr/bin/inxi line 23.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/inxi line 23.
The package manager broke after initial usage. It will not start from menu. I attempted to start it from terminal and received a "not found" message.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.3 RC1
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:19 pm
by TiredPup
I booted into a pristine setup. This time I installed inxi 2.3.8 from puppy noarch. It worked fine. I also installed a favorite KDE game (kshisen) as I did with the last setup. At this point the package manager is working as it should.
Thank you for this. I will continue to subject this to the usual abuse to see how it holds up.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.3 RC1
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:48 pm
by TiredPup
An update to my first post above. The flashing of the window manager and applications occurs when changing icon sets in JWM Desk Manager. Initially I changed the mouse pointer to default. I like the low profile black pointer. No problem there. I then elected to change the icon set to Moka. Applying that change resulted in the window flashing. Editing the picom config file resolved the issue immediately. This appears to be somewhat different from my previous experience as I do not recall the flashing being associated with changes made from the desk manager.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.3 RC1
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:57 pm
by 666philb
thanks for testing TiredPup & darry19662018,
new iso (RC2) will be available in the next few days.
fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2 uploaded
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:25 pm
by 666philb
fossapup64 RC2 uploaded!
kernel recompiled with bigpups missing drivers
picom compositor bugs should now be fixed (no more flashing)
picom-gtk gui updated
conky-gtk gui updated (now with weather )
missing apps from last iso back in, pburn, pclock, inkscapelite, etc
bluezalsa added. bluetooth now works for me, both speakers and bluetooth tethering to a phone.
janky_BT had a mini update, now has a volume control and also normal system sounds should work after disconnecting speaker.
JWMdesk updated to add new conky,picom & dunst GUIs
URXVT transparency .... turn on/off in JWMdesk>>>window effects.
no_csd (no client side display) adds the title bar back for gnome apps like evince, gedit etc.
tweaked firewall icons so look better on dark taskbar.
Xlock .... thought it was fixed but just discovered that it needs a further tweak. will update through quickpet
quickpet links should now point towards this forum.
One bug i can't figure out is the default repositories in the PPM .the fossapup repo is missing until you add it in the PPM settings.
if anyone knows where the settings are for this let me know. note that fossapup64 uses an older PPM than the one in woofce.
download link on first post
enjoy
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.3 RC1
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:31 am
by 666philb
TiredPup wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:31 am
In the previous release when I installed inxi 3.0 from Ubuntu repos inxi would complain that python deps were not installed. They are installed as part of the original build. Re installing python from package manager would "fix" this problem. However, in RC1 the program complains
Can't locate Data/Dumper.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Data::Dumper module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.30.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.30.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.30 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.30 /usr/share/perl/5.30 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base) at /usr/bin/inxi line 23.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/inxi line 23.
The package manager broke after initial usage. It will not start from menu. I attempted to start it from terminal and received a "not found" message.
hi TiredPup,
puppy has most of it's Perl packages in the devx.sfs.
installing the devx should make inxi work
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:42 am
by bigpup
One bug i can't figure out is the default repositories in the PPM .the fossapup repo is missing until you add it in the PPM settings.
if anyone knows where the settings are for this let me know. note that fossapup64 uses an older PPM than the one in woofce
The actual setting for what repositories are listed is in /root/.packages/PKGS_MANAGEMENT file.
The last line lists the repositories:
does not list the Packages-puppy-fossa64-official.
All the other ones are listed.
Initial testing:
Fossapup64 9.0.4, frugal, using save folder.
All my previous problems with Fossapup64, seem to be fixed.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:48 am
by iarda1
Hi 666philb,
Thanks for the new new RC2.
From my view aesthetically complete, and nice look (new icons in rox and that...)
I find a lot missing full install (why?), usually I manage more data that delay closing with savefiles.
From many years I don't need compatibility with any other S.O. diferent of puppylinux.
In fact for a long time used ext4 with NO swapfiles space.
Is there any script to make a complete install to my HD drives?
My experience in hardware pc clutter has no problem. Software so...
Greetings.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2 - usb wifi fix
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:11 am
by davids45
G'day,
Posting fron fossapup64-9.0.4-rc2, but as in previous fossas, could only get networking via my TP-Link USB dongle by switching to another kernel (ozsouth's 5.6.18) and replacing fossa's frdv with one just having the firmware needed for the dongle (ath9k_htc).
I'll try another kernel, when I can, as a cross-check.
And with the original fossa frdv to see which 'drv' is giving my system (old HP small-form desktop) this on-going failure with the fossas (frdv or zdrv?).
Bionic and other recent Ubuntu Pups (and ScPups) have not had this networking failure with my USB wifi adapter.
So I'm puzzled.
David S.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:16 am
by iarda1
Hi
Found conkyrc config file directly saved in root.
Shouldn't be in root/.config folder?
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2 - updating 9.0.3
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 am
by one
Hi 666philb
I have a (may be stupid) question regarding updating fossapup64. I have a frugal usb install, booted via grub4dos. If I replace the old v.9.0.3-sfs'es with the new v.9.0.4-sfs'es fossapup tries to load the old 9.0.3-sfs'es (now named xxx9.0.4.sfs) and fails of course. How can I change this? Should I simply rename the new ones to xxx9.0.3.sfs?
Or do a new install and use old savefolder?
I have a (may be stupid) question regarding updating fossapup64. I have a frugal usb install, booted via grub4dos. If I replace the old v.9.0.3-sfs'es with the new v.9.0.4-sfs'es fossapup tries to load the old 9.0.3-sfs'es (now named xxx9.0.4.sfs) and fails of course. How can I change this? Should I simply rename the new ones to xxx9.0.3.sfs?
Or do a new install and use old savefolder?
Many thanks for your work ...
hi one,
you need the initrd.gz & vmlinuz as well as all the sfs's
One bug i can't figure out is the default repositories in the PPM .the fossapup repo is missing until you add it in the PPM settings.
if anyone knows where the settings are for this let me know. note that fossapup64 uses an older PPM than the one in woofce
The actual setting for what repositories are listed is in /root/.packages/PKGS_MANAGEMENT file.
The last line lists the repositories:
does not list the Packages-puppy-fossa64-official.
All the other ones are listed.
Initial testing:
Fossapup64 9.0.4, frugal, using save folder.
All my previous problems with Fossapup64, seem to be fixed.
aha!!! that's the one ... thanks bigpup
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:42 am
by 666philb
iarda1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:48 am
Hi 666philb,
Thanks for the new new RC2.
From my view aesthetically complete, and nice look (new icons in rox and that...)
I find a lot missing full install (why?), usually I manage more data that delay closing with savefiles.
From many years I don't need compatibility with any other S.O. diferent of puppylinux.
In fact for a long time used ext4 with NO swapfiles space.
Is there any script to make a complete install to my HD drives?
My experience in hardware pc clutter has no problem. Software so...
Greetings.
hi iarda1,
full install is still there but hidden to stop new users using it when the default (and indeed the way puppy is designed) is to have a frugal install.
to do a full install open a terminal and ...
Posting fron fossapup64-9.0.4-rc2, but as in previous fossas, could only get networking via my TP-Link USB dongle by switching to another kernel (ozsouth's 5.6.18) and replacing fossa's frdv with one just having the firmware needed for the dongle (ath9k_htc).
I'll try another kernel, when I can, as a cross-check.
And with the original fossa frdv to see which 'drv' is giving my system (old HP small-form desktop) this on-going failure with the fossas (frdv or zdrv?).
Bionic and other recent Ubuntu Pups (and ScPups) have not had this networking failure with my USB wifi adapter.
So I'm puzzled.
David S.
hi davids45,
the fdrv.sfs contains the firmware and the zdrv.sfs is the kernel & as far as i can tell ath9k_htc firmware and drivers are there
if that fails i will need more info from pupsysinfo , lspci, lsusb (maybe from a working pup so a can confirm the driver) also could you PM me your /var/log/messages when this is plugged in
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:58 am
by 666philb
iarda1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:16 am
Hi
Found conkyrc config file directly saved in root.
Shouldn't be in root/.config folder?
hi iarda1
i put it there so that it's easy to find and edit for users
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:27 am
by TiredPup
does not list the Packages-puppy-fossa64-official.
All the other ones are listed.
Are you talking about this line at the end of the file?
Posting now from Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2, Full Install on 500Gb HD, managing YouTube extended works.
Thanks very much 666philb. Hugely updated now.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:15 pm
by TiredPup
666philb wrote:
hi TiredPup,
puppy has most of it's Perl packages in the devx.sfs.
installing the devx should make info work
I have loaded the devx file. Thanks.
I have noticed that Conky does not maintain transparency. It will start transparent but if I open an app full screen or I simply walk away from my desk for a while I will come back to a black background on Conky.
puppy has most of it's Perl packages in the devx.sfs.
installing the devx should make info work
I have loaded the devx file. Thanks.
I have noticed that Conky does not maintain transparency. It will start transparent but if I open an app full screen or I simply walk away from my desk for a while I will come back to a black background on Conky.
9.0.4 RC2 is working very well so far.
hi TiredPup,
this can happen when there's a disruption in the internet. you could edit /root/conkyrc and remove or comment out the network stuff near the bottom and have a static version
Thanks for your reply to my post re fossapup64s not connecting unless I change the fdrv, zdrv & vmlinuz (ie to a different kernel to its supplied 5.4.47).
With the working 5.6.18 kernel, I restored the original fossapup64's fdrv and the network connection was still good (using the same save-file as at start-up in all my tests). So it's not the firmware giving me my no-networking problem in the 64-bit fossas.
I have now tried kernels:
5.6.18 (ozsouth) = works
5.7.9-lxpup = works
4.6.18 lxpup = works
and then back to original 5.4.47 which still fails to show wlan0 using any wizard, so no printing, no scanning and no internet .
I should look to see if there's another huge-kernel version of 5.4.47 somewhere?
And I'll later re-boot to fossapup64 in its original state and try your suggestions in your last post. And repeat with a working kernel in fossa if that would help sort out what's wrong with my set-up??
Thanks again for all your time.
David S.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:34 am
by TiredPup
666philb wrote:
hi TiredPup,
this can happen when there's a disruption in the internet. you could edit /root/conkyrc and remove or comment out the network stuff near the bottom and have a static version
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I'm enjoing with satisfaction Scpup64 on my hardware. I tried fossapup64 on the same hardware and it's quite unresponsive and unusable. Fossapup64 is the first puplet I can't use on my hardware. On my hardware I can even run fatdog64. I think that fossapup64 is quite unfit for old hardware. My specs:
System: Host: puppypc19506 Kernel: 5.7.2-lxpup64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7
Distro: ScPup64 20.06
Machine: Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 530 Notebook PC v: F.07 serial: CND8160FHM
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30D5 v: KBC Version 82.15
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MVU Ver. F.07 date: 03/18/2008
Battery C1AC: charge: 20.0 Wh 100.0% condition: 20.0/20.0 Wh (100%)
CPU: Single core Intel Celeron M 520 (-UP-) cache: 1024 KB speed/max: 1115/1600 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.20.8 driver: intel
tty size: N/A Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1 Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Card-2 Z-Star Micro Venus USB2.0 Camera driver: USB Audio
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.7.2-lxpup64
Network: Card-1: Intel 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller Mobile
driver: e100
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1e:ec:23:fd:95
Card-2: Broadcom and subsidiaries BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY driver: b43-pci-bridge
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 00:21:00:09:91:98
Drives: HDD Total Size: 280.1GB (39.1% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK1246GS size: 120.0GB
ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Disk size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 1.07GB used: 0.32GB (30%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 74.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 130 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 841.8/1479.2MB
Client: Shell (urxvt) inxi: 2.3.8
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:44 pm
by 666philb
watchdog wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:31 pm
I'm enjoing with satisfaction Scpup64 on my hardware. I tried fossapup64 on the same hardware and it's quite unresponsive and unusable. Fossapup64 is the first puplet I can't use on my hardware. On my hardware I can even run fatdog64. I think that fossapup64 is quite unfit for old hardware. My specs:
System: Host: puppypc19506 Kernel: 5.7.2-lxpup64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7
Distro: ScPup64 20.06
Machine: Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP 530 Notebook PC v: F.07 serial: CND8160FHM
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30D5 v: KBC Version 82.15
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MVU Ver. F.07 date: 03/18/2008
Battery C1AC: charge: 20.0 Wh 100.0% condition: 20.0/20.0 Wh (100%)
CPU: Single core Intel Celeron M 520 (-UP-) cache: 1024 KB speed/max: 1115/1600 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.20.8 driver: intel
tty size: N/A Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1 Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Card-2 Z-Star Micro Venus USB2.0 Camera driver: USB Audio
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.7.2-lxpup64
Network: Card-1: Intel 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller Mobile
driver: e100
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1e:ec:23:fd:95
Card-2: Broadcom and subsidiaries BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY driver: b43-pci-bridge
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 00:21:00:09:91:98
Drives: HDD Total Size: 280.1GB (39.1% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK1246GS size: 120.0GB
ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: USB_Disk size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 1.07GB used: 0.32GB (30%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 74.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 130 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 841.8/1479.2MB
Client: Shell (urxvt) inxi: 2.3.8
hi watchdog,
yes those specs are too low for fossapup64. the minimum suggested requirements will be core2duo & 2gb ram.
runs nicely on a 2007 vista ready laptop but anything from the XP era (especially single core) will struggle with this fossa.
G'day 666philb,
I done a bit more trial&erroring with fossa and its non-networking for my wlan0 adapter.
I tried your script for the /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf file and it had no effect in allowing wifi networking. The original fossa config script was the same as in other working Pups and the edited version worked in other Pups, just not in Fossa64.
text in /etc/modprobe.d/ config file:
in a working Slacko64:
options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
in a working Bionic64 as per posted advice:
options ath9k_htc use_dev_fw=1
in a non-working Fossa (2 versions tried & failed):
options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
options ath9k_htc use_dev_fw=1
result seems to be this config script, either version, has no effect on networking
I next looked at the Puppy SysInformation for some Pups, particularly the Drivers as it seems mine is a driver problem in Fossa, the firmware looking OK.
Screenshots have ath9k drivers listed and only difference is ath9k_htc lists 1 user in the failing Fossa but 0 users in new-kernel-working Fossa and another Pup. I have no idea what this means.
Kernel switch tests.
I could not find another huge-kernel for 5.4.47 other than yours but switched the fossa-supplied kernel with a fresh download of the archived huge-kernel-5.4.47 and still had no networking.
I then tried the 5.4.47 kernel in a BionicPup64-8.0 which had networking with its original 4.something kernel and several other kernels I tested it with. The 5.4.47 kernel saw this BionicPup64 also lose its wifi when network wizards were run to get a wifi connection.
So it is something in the zdrv or vmlinuz of fossa's 5.4.47 kernel that wont work with my wifi dongle and wont work in another Pup. Change the kernel and all is networking OK again.
Posting from fossapup64-9.0.4 with a 5.7.9-lxpup64 kernel.
Happy to try anything else to explain my problem in Fossa.
David S.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:11 am
by abcd1232
I have problem. No speaker beep in terminal.
Re: Fossapup64 9.0.4 RC2
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:52 pm
by 666philb
abcd1232 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:11 am
I have problem. No speaker beep in terminal.
hi abcd1232,
move /root/Startup/disablebeep to /root/Startup/disabled and reboot