Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems (Solved)

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Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems (Solved)

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I have a frugal install of Bionic32 bit with seamonkey 2.53.9.1. For the last couple of days I have had the following problems:

1. Opening seamonkey, instead of my blank page, I get the startpage search engine results for "@", and
2. The font size on the webpages is such that I almost need a magnifying glass.

I have tried for:

1. Edit>Preferences>Browser>Display on Browser startup Blank page - no joy

2. I have my usual userChrome.css file in ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/sgqdg.default/chrome - is that not the correct location in later seamonkey versions?

Pointers anyone please.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems

Post by rockedge »

This sounds like the saved profile that SeaMonkey is currently using has something to do with this.

You could test by renaming the currently use profile and force SeaMonkey to use a new one or there might be a way to select which profile SeaMonkey starts up and uses.

Point is try to switch from ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/sgqdg.default to a new profile to see if the problem goes away.

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@Mercedes350se

To see whether you've multiple profiles or not, open a terminal and type

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seamonkey -profilemanager

In case of more than one profile you can see what the default profile is.

Delete the ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/xxxxx.default/chrome folder
SM will recreate this folder and content with the default configuration after start
Preferences like the startpage will be stored in ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/xxxxx.default/prefs.js

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Profile issue was my first thought. Didn't think to simply rename so I reinstalled seamonkey but result is the same.

Main irritant is the startpage.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems

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Reinstalling wouldn't solve the problem because uninstalling wouldn't have removed the profile at ~/.mozilla/. While seamonkey comes with a default profile it will write to ~/.mozilla/ when you start it the first time, if a profile is already there it will use that instead of writing a new one.

I'd suggest export your bookmarks, take a snapshot of addons --so you'll know which to reinstall-- then delete the profile. Then restart Seamonkey.

rockedge's advice should also have worked since --in the absence of instructions-- renaming the profile folder would require Seamonkey to create a new one. There seems to be something wrong with your current set-up. You should be able to change your 'Home' page: Menu>Edit>Preferences>Click the Browser Button on the Left. Select your Home page via the bottom panel on the Right, one of whose choices is Use Current Page**.

The default name for mozilla & palemoon's profile folder is 'profile'. But they can be started with a wrapper such as:

#!/bin/sh

#LAUNCHDIR="$(cd "$(dirname "$0")"; pwd)"
LAUNCHDIR="$(dirname "$(readlink -f "$0")")"
mkdir "$LAUNCHDIR/secure" 2> /dev/null
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LAUNCHDIR/:$LAUNCHDIR/extralibs${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH} "$LAUNCHDIR/firefox" "$@" -profile "$LAUNCHDIR/secure"

In the above, a folder named 'secure' is created and the last line (it may have been broken by the display; it begins with LD_LIBRARY_PATH= and ended with '-profile "$LAUNCHDIR/secure") instructs it to use a profile folder named "secure".

Multiple profiles can be created; and the browser can be opened using any by starting it via different scripts rather than via its binary.

I think that there's a way to create have multiple profiles without the use of scripts; but I don't know how. It may require an addon.

Edited after breakfast :) : Booted into Seamonkey 2.53.11.1 which I have as a portable either having updated from MikeWalsh's, viewtopic.php?p=12289#p12289 or by substituting the contents of a tar.gz downloaded from Seamonkey, https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ for the corresponding files and folders in portable 2.53.8.
Multiple profiles can be created by opening Toolbar>Tools>Switch Profiles, Click Manager Profiles, Click Create Profile. The GUI walks you thru the process with explanations. I didn't create one. But from the initial display it appears that once you have more than one you can choose which is the default. And later in the creation process there were instructions about how to switch between profiles.

** Another choice is to select "Use Current Group". Seamonkey has an addon named Speed Start. I think it can be selected. I don't use it. Rather, I installed the Classic Firefox Addon Archive, https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive without which I don't know if Speed-dial addon would work. During the install it reports it won't work with my version of Seamonkey, but it does. It is selected as the opening page by choosing it from Use Current Group.

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I had a major dummy spit and removed 2.53.9.1 entirely - as well as the above issues it was getting more and more flakey.

All the profiles I could find as well as a whole lot of other stuff was deleted. Downloaded and installed 2.48. Then the "fun" started. About an hour later I think I have it all sorted.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems (Installed 2.48)

Post by amethyst »

@Mercedes350se
Any reason why you wouldn't want to try out Palemoon? Seamonkey is always a bit "behind the times" with its releases and going back to an older version will restrict your browsing of newer sites or sites that are updated frequently like youtube, facebook and linkedin.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems (Installed 2.48)

Post by xenial »

Seamonkey is based on firefox 68 which i believe is the same as palemoon browser so in theory the rendering should be approximately the same.
I would advise a total uninstall of seamonkey and the cleaning of remnants and attempt another install.

Youtube seems to be an issue with palemoon and seamonkey at the moment in regard to the implementation of webcomponents which is a google specific code...Perhaps google are being evil and trying to monopolize not just youtube but the entire web..? :roll:

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.9.1 problems (Installed 2.48)

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@xenial :-

xenial wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:07 am

...Perhaps google are being evil and trying to monopolize not just youtube but the entire web..? :roll:

*SHOCK!* *HORROR!!*

Ooh, how could you suggest such a thing..? Google are good ol' boys, don'tcha know; they only want what's best for everyone, after all..... :lol: :lol: :roll:

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Damn...That is my little bubble burst lol. :lol: :lol:

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I realise 2.48 is "behind the times". A couple of sites I visit already say "not supported".

I have used Firefox, Palemoon, etc., but I prefer the seamonkey suite.

Continue navel gazing in the short term ...

PS. @ mikewalsh

Your google comment
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@Mercedes350se

I build a seamonkey-2.53.11-de-i686.pet which I am using right now in Bionic 32 to write this post.
Can't detect any abnormal behavior.
Maybe you want to try this pet.

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@norgo

I get a segmentation fault message.

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@Mercedes350se
so it seems to be hardware related. Does your CPU support SSE2 Opcode This is required for seamonkey.

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sysinfo shows it ...

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@Mercedes350se
does seamonkey launch without GUI ?

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seamonkey --headless

if so
does seamonkey launch in safe mode ?

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seamonkey --safe-mode
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I should never do anything on the machine when I am tired/frustrated/whatever.

After the segmentation fault message I found and deleted the seamonkey directory.

Trying to reinstall gives the message that it is already installed ...

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Mercedes350se wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:40 am

I should never do anything on the machine when I am tired/frustrated/whatever.
After the segmentation fault message I found and deleted the seamonkey directory.
Trying to reinstall gives the message that it is already installed ...

@Mercedes350se
yes of course, this package manager message is absolute correct.
Where from package manager should know that you deleted manually files.
Delete in /var/packages/user-installed-packages the line

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seamonkey-2.53.11-de-i686|seamonkey|......

and additional delete the file

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/var/packages/seamonkey-2.53.11-de-i686.files

Reinstall seamonkey package.

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norgo wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:23 am

does seamonkey launch without GUI ?

No. Still says segmentation fault.

As a matter of interest what changes did you make to the package before you made the .pet?

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Post by norgo »

@Mercedes350se
Not reproduce able to me, did another test on my laptop right now.
Works out of the box without any kind of error message.

Package modifications:
Icon symlinks
desktop files
seamonkey start script (is checking if apulse is installed, if so apulse will be used)
German dictionaries

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@norgo

Thanks for your help.

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UPDATE: Uninstalled everything relating to seamonkey(s). Downloaded/installed 2.53.11.1 and seamonkey is working as expected (including Youtube sound as per my other thread!).

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Hello
I use the trick of Norgo to lock my emails WITHOUT javascript but the commutation if really userunfriendly as I do actually (the fast one in the page about:config alt. the slow one through the tree of bearbeiten/Einstellungen/Erweitert/Skrypte/ and ankreuzen).
Does not some fast short cut exist to do that?

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