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Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:45 pm
by r96chase

Hi. It's been awhile.

Anyway, I'm hoping to get a Raspberry Pi 400 for Christmas and I'm wondering if there is or there will be any support for it on Raspup.

The Raspberry Pi 400 is basically a modified Raspberry Pi 4 (4GB) built into a keyboard-like form factor, in case if you didn't know.

Thanks.

Chase E.


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:57 pm
by Grey

If hardware is exactly the same, then drivers and system will work exactly the same.
In general, the device is interesting, it reminds me ZX Spectrum :)


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:01 am
by bigpup

Here is a good review:
https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/ ... and-review

Which keyboard model you getting?

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Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:06 am
by Grey
bigpup wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:01 am

Which keyboard model you getting?

Indeed, what are the differences between UK, US and EU? What can be fundamentally different there? Power supply only?


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:26 am
by r96chase

I'm trying to get one with the US keyboard layout. @bigpup @Grey

Not quite sure why there is an EU version. I would guess it's a power supply thing.

Anyway, yeah, the RPi 400 seems to be a nice machine and I wonder if it can run Raspup in its current version.


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:54 pm
by Bert

Hi,
I'm having the same question as the original poster... r96chase, did Santa keep his promise? ;) If he(she?) did, did you have a chance to see if Raspbian Buster is able to run on the 400?
I'm asking because I just ordered a Raspberry pi 400, that will arrive in February.
Thanks!


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:57 pm
by r96chase

@Bert Hi! Well, I didn't get a Raspberry Pi 400, but I did get a Raspberry Pi 4. I couldn't get it up and working on it, probably because the monitor I've been using doesn't work with the RPi 4 very well.

Thanks for asking though.

Sincerely,
Chase :thumbup2:


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:53 am
by Bert

Thanks for your reply.
Hope you can solve the RP4 problem!
Best regards,
Bert


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:12 pm
by bigpup

Just got a Raspberry PI 400

Have Raspberry puppy 8.2.1 running on it.

Wifi is not working.
Get no Wireless devices found message.

probably lt needs a driver.

The hunt is on :roll:

In gernal Raspberry Puppy seems to be working ok on the Raspberry PI 400.


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:11 pm
by rockedge

@bigpup

Nice! What kernel are you running?


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:12 am
by bigpup
rockedge wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:11 pm

@bigpup

Nice! What kernel are you running?

New raspberry pi 5.4.42-v7 linux kernel patched with AUFS.

Not sure what patched with AUFS is?


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:29 pm
by rockedge

@bigpup

AUFS is the layering system library. It is what makes Puppy a Puppy. AUFS makes it possible to layer the SFS files onto the Puppy Linux file system. This is what makes the kernel different that we use for Puppy Linux. There is another similar file system layering library called Overlayfs which has been chosen to be included in the stock Linux kernel. You will see some projects here on the forum(s) that are using the overlayfs instead of AUFS. Also AUFS can perform layering that Overlayfs can not, so it is more flexible and allows the loading of SFS files on the fly.

Problem with AUFS is there is only one guy in Japan who writes the code and maintains it.

And that we have to include the patch when compiling a kernel for Puppy Linux. For example to create a full real time kernel for Puppy Linux it is required to add the AUFS patch and the real_time patches to the kernel source before compiling it.


Re: Support for Raspberry Pi 400??

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:18 pm
by bigpup
bigpup wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:12 pm

Just got a Raspberry PI 400

Have Raspberry puppy 8.2.1 running on it.

Wifi is not working.
Get no Wireless devices found message.

Update:
Found what is wrong with the WIFI.
Missing the needed firmware.

To fix it. I got the needed firmware, from the Raspberry PI OS, that was provided for the Raspberry PI 400.
Not totally sure, what the WIFI hardware is, in this PI 400. (I think it needs the brcmfmac43456 firmware files)
Those files where not in Raspberry Puppy 8.2.1
The firmware is found in /lib/firmware/brcm
So, I copied the needed files from Raspberry PI OS and placed them in /lib/firmware/brcm of Raspberry Puppy 8.2.1
Rebooted.

WIFI now working and using WIFI connection to internet, to type this.


Raspberry Pi 400 rpi OK

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:13 pm
by tony

Hi.
I have just made the switch from rpi4 to rpi400.
It was not as easy as I thought it would be. All the software was out of date and I needed a Debian OS to update and upgrade it. All my stuff was on USB and wireless was not working. Missing brcmfmac 43456.

Thanks Bigpup for your post, it saved me a lot of time. What linux tools did you use to track down the missing firmware?

Still to do :- Get my Gmail working. (missing certificates).
Get a Browser that my bank will accept.
Find out what the raspberry key does.

Regards. Tony.


Re: Raspberry Pi 400 rpi OK

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:53 pm
by Dingo
tony wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 12:13 pm

Hi.
I have just made the switch from rpi4 to rpi400.
It was not as easy as I thought it would be. All the software was out of date and I needed a Debian OS to update and upgrade it. All my stuff was on USB and wireless was not working. Missing brcmfmac 43456.

Thanks Bigpup for your post, it saved me a lot of time. What linux tools did you use to track down the missing firmware?

Still to do :- Get my Gmail working. (missing certificates).
Get a Browser that my bank will accept.
Find out what the raspberry key does.

Regards. Tony.

It is openoffice available for rasberrypi or libreoffice only? I also would switch to rasberryPi 400, but I read either that openoffice is available either it is not available


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:10 pm
by bigpup

I switched my Pi 400 to using EasyOS Dunfell 2.6.1 released for the Raspberry Pi4
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=2027

Read my posts about some issues and fixes I did.

It is using Seamonkey browser.

It is 64bit and seems to run better than Raspup.

BarryK says he is working on a newer version.
hope he fixes the issues I found.


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:26 pm
by bigpup

Thanks Bigpup for your post, it saved me a lot of time. What linux tools did you use to track down the missing firmware?

I just looked at what Raspberry OS was using.
Found it was missing in Raspup 8.2.1


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 7:18 pm
by bigpup

is openoffice available for rasberrypi or libreoffice only? I also would switch to rasberryPi 400, but I read either that openoffice is available either it is not available

I have looked a little and not found a version, yet!

These Pi computers, are going to be limited on what software will work, on them.
Non of the Puppy software, compiled for x86 Puppy versions, will work on a Pi computer.


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 8:40 pm
by Dingo

Thanks @bigpup this is sad, since I love the cleaner openoffice UI


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:22 am
by 8Geee

Are there any Firefox browsers available?


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 11:55 am
by r96chase

@8Geee There are, but I'm not sure how well they work on Raspup.


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:26 pm
by r96chase

Hey guys. Today, I'm gonna figure out how to get Raspup working on my Pi 400 myself. Why? Because I just got the Pi 400 recently. I might try modifying the config.txt thing first and we'll go from there. Yay for this bump and stuff. :thumbup2:


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:41 am
by r96chase

Okay...so...I couldn't figure heads-and-tails how to modify the config.txt. So instead, I hope to work on a Raspup remaster with somebody. It'll probably be something along the lines of updating the software on it and getting it to work on my end, since my TV/monitor is weird with Raspup somehow.


Re: Raspup support for Raspberry Pi 400?

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:01 pm
by bigpup

Just an update on what I am using.

I have tried Raspup and EasyOS version for the PI 4

They both need some tweaking and have issues.
All the issues I have found solutions for.
I posted what I did in each respective OS topic.

I settled on using Raspup, mainly because seems more software can be found to work on it.
Menu->Setup has several different ways to get software.
The two different ways to run Package Manager both work, but the NG GUI one, seems to be in need of some more tweaking.

I posted topics in the Raspbian Buster section of forum about tweaks I did and added features.