A proper website for Kennel Linux?

[IdfbAn]

Are there plans to ever have a "proper" website for Kennel Linux? Maybe explain the basics of what it is, links to downloads, that sorta stuff. I know about https://www.tinylinux.info, I know about https://kennel-linux.rockedge.org, but I'm not sure either of those quite fit the bill, unless I'm missing something.

[wiak]

Are there plans to ever have a "proper" website for Kennel Linux? Maybe explain the basics of what it is, links to downloads, that sorta stuff. I know about https://www.tinylinux.info, I know about https://kennel-linux.rockedge.org, but I'm not sure either of those quite fit the bill, unless I'm missing something.

You are correct. Neither 'fit the bill'.

I have always had 'plans' for a FirstRib website and will certainly be linking to and explaining some Kennel Linux details there.

But firstrib is a build system that can produce distros that don't use kennel-wide system utilities, or just an optional few. It isn't KL per se, but current KL distros rely on it and use its overlayfs initrd facilities.

I think a separate website dedicated to forum Kennel Linux distros themselves would definitely also be advised for sure. So I'd say, consider it planned, though it will likely not be me building that one.

[rockedge]

@IdfbAn @wiak
I built a specialized web page for KLV-Airedale in case I was going to submit something over at Distrowatch. Simple and assembled with Bootstrap framework.

Here it is: https://klv-airedale.rockedge.org/

[wiak]

@IdfbAn @wiak
I built a specialized web page for KLV-Airedale in case I was going to submit something over at Distrowatch. Simple and assembled with Bootstrap framework.

Here it is: https://klv-airedale.rockedge.org/

Yes, that's good, and it reminds me that there are likely to be many webpages because KL distros are all very independently different so need their own space online too.

What people who create a KL distro do for its individual webpage is solely up to them of course, but I certainly agree that kind of Bootstrap look is great, simple to build, but fast to load pages as well as powerful feature-wise.

I personally use 'Hugo' static website builder for all my sites, which often actually uses Bootstrap in its coding so not surprisingly has a similar look and feel, but even easier for most people to learn than direct Bootstrap. So, I highly recommend Hugo - been publishing business websites with it to for around five years now. Initial learning curve, and different ways Hugo can be configured (that's a slight complication to get over), but once mastered there is no need to know any html (though a little big under-the-hood html and css knowledge sometimes helps and learning a bit Markdown is best approach and important since Hugo content files use Markdown).

Though I'll certainly need to maintain any FirstRib website, since I continually maintain/change/develop that build system, I am however always happy if others produce some FirstRib documentation that I can freely use and or modify for inclusion on the website I make. An overall Kennel Linux website, as I say is unlikely to be made by me, but I am happy to include content if I have any, so that design has to be done by forum members interested to do so; another build using Hugo would be great I feel by whoever (or team of people) who does so.

[IdfbAn]

An overall Kennel Linux website, as I say is unlikely to be made by me, but I am happy to include content if I have any, so that design has to be done by forum members interested to do so; another build using Hugo would be great I feel by whoever (or team of people) who does so.

I could try giving it a go, but since you mentioned that KL doesn't necessarily use FirstRib, what would I say it is, then? Maybe I could get some simple, basic explanation to start with?

[IdfbAn]

I've whipped up a little Hugo site for Kennel Linux. Of course, I'll expand it if needed. Any feedback is welcome.

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[wiak]

I've whipped up a little Hugo site for Kennel Linux. Of course, I'll expand it if needed. Any feedback is welcome.
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Good. That's the way to do things here if you want something done... Indeed, that is how FirstRib came into being - I just had some ideas, so I tried them and then developed them.

[IdfbAn]

Expanded the site a tiny bit. Again, please send feedback if you have any.

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[rockedge]

I've been experimenting with Hugo also. I really like the site so far that @IdfbAn has assembled. I am always looking for pages like this.

It is on a local machine and is only temporarily viewable. It was looking at what a landing page might look like. I am just starting out learning to use Hugo. I have seen really cool examples but not sure yet how they are actually constructed to look so good. My attempts are still shots in the dark.

[IdfbAn]

I really like the site so far that @IdfbAn has assembled.
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I have seen really cool examples but not sure yet how they are actually constructed to look so good.

If you're wondering what theme my site is using, it's Hugo Simple, right in the screenshot. Other themes can also be found here.

[wiak]

Coincidentally, an employee of our business was assigned by me, several days ago, to look after the business Hugo sites I created a few years ago. I was busy doing some Hugo training to explain to them the basics when I noticed the above posted Hugo simple theme site. The employee is working on the Magnolia theme (their choice) and says they are really enjoying what they are learning. I used to use straight html/css floating column layout, but after coming across Hugo haven't bothered with anything else. That gave me much more free time to develop firstrib.

[wiak]

An overall Kennel Linux website, as I say is unlikely to be made by me, but I am happy to include content if I have any, so that design has to be done by forum members interested to do so; another build using Hugo would be great I feel by whoever (or team of people) who does so.

I could try giving it a go, but since you mentioned that KL doesn't necessarily use FirstRib, what would I say it is, then? Maybe I could get some simple, basic explanation to start with?

My feeling is that something like Kennel Linux, by its very name should remain open to the use of alternative, perhaps not yet in existence, build systems. Why limit such a distro to any one type? Having said that, it proved easy to build multi-flavoured distros including kennel-wide system utility apps via firstrib methodology, so KL remains FirstRib based at the moment only. Who knows the future?

Some say the forum distro Puppy Linux is defined (and must be) built using build system woof-CE. But is there necessarily sense in such a restrictive rule? Hence KL, per its open-minded guiding principles avoids such a restriction.

Having said that, the current KL distros are all FR based and that can be stated with documentation included that is related to that.

[IdfbAn]

I'm thinking of creating a GitHub organization for the site (and maybe other things?) (kennellinux.github.io), but should I do it at all? And if I do, what do I put as the contact email? (you have to do that)

[rockedge]

I have some stuff on GitHub for example -> https://github.com/techrockedge/xbps_packages

Yes it is more or less aimed at the KLV variants since that's what I am working on presently because I really like Void Linux. -> https://github.com/techrockedge/KLV-PLUGS

@IdfbAn It would be great if you set up a GitHub repo that would open up easy collaboration

Anyone look at the example Hugo site I'm learning on? I am interested if one can reach the site. I am using Tailscale to make it available and not using dynamic DNS aliases.

[IdfbAn]

Anyone look at the example Hugo site I'm learning on?

I can't, it just says "Server Not Found".

[IdfbAn]

How about this -> http://100.106.72.26/landingpage/public/

It just loads endlessly for me.

[rockedge]

I can't get around having to add user/devices so it's back to dynamic DNS aliases which work pretty good across the board.

[IdfbAn]

@rockedge Is your test site specifically for KL or is it just a general Hugo playground thing?

[rockedge]

It is a Hugo test for a decent theme for a landing page and eventually to build a comprehensive KL information site, maybe hosting PLUG recipes

I am interested in seeing if I can reliably use a local machine to host KL repos

[IdfbAn]

It is a Hugo test for a decent theme for a landing page and eventually to build a comprehensive KL information site, maybe hosting PLUG recipes

In that case, I might abandon the one I'm making. But first, I need to be able to see yours. Also, I'm assuming you'll make the website source open?

[rockedge]

You should continue building the site. Mine is at the moment more for learning Hugo and it's in and outs and I wouldn't feel pressured to finish something polished.

The KLV-Airedale site is built with Bootstrap framework and I used a template with manual changes made to it. It's hosted on a commercial server.

[IdfbAn]

Added a new page for links. Currently, it's just these four. And @wiak, should I make a GitHub organization for this site? (kennellinux.github.io) If so, what do I put as the contact email?

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[rockedge]

I like both pages so far. SImple and informative and has a pop factor. Good work.

probably the main owner of the repo and then other users invited and added to have push / commit permissions.

[wiak]

Added a new page for links. Currently, it's just these four. And @wiak, should I make a GitHub organization for this site? (kennellinux.github.io) If so, what do I put as the contact email?
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Yes, it is good you make that and since you are the lead builder you should use your own contact email. The rest of us can and no doubt will contribute later once we have time. That's why it is good that you have taken the initiative to build that because when it comes to time availability we all tend to be chasing our own tails, meaning we have big todo lists and not enough time. Just make sure to give due attributes and links to other needed sites such as any I finally get round to making and of course the forum sections and rockedge's special KL repositories.

[IdfbAn]

The site is ready!
https://kennellinux.github.io/

[rockedge]

I like it. For the same reasons I noted earlier. Lots of the key information presented in a fast and organized way. Good stuff.

What is the GitHub link for possible collaboration by pushing changes and triggering commits?

[IdfbAn]

What is the GitHub link for possible collaboration by pushing changes and triggering commits?

It's https://github.com/KennelLinux/KennelLinux.github.io. I've actually already invited you to the GitHub org, you just have to accept it. (if you want to, of course)

[rockedge]

I don't see the invitation notice for some reason. I could fork it but prefer accepting the invite at this time.

[IdfbAn]

I don't see the invitation notice for some reason.

It should be in your emails. If it's not, I'll cancel and re-invite you.

[rockedge]

@IdfbAn All set! The email came through.