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questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 2:10 pm
by Will_Shok

After setting up my laptop with F96-CE puppylinux i have been itching to download some programs, the main program i would like to install is steam to play some games with the limited hardware that i have, the other program i would like to download is the web browser brave which Im not sure if Im able to. Any tips would be welcome since i have 0 experience with anything that isnt windows.


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:32 pm
by rockedge

@Will_Shok,
We should start off with getting the Brave browser to work. Steam is a bit tricky so some easier packages to install should be good place to start and get the feel of how it all works.

In F96-CE_4 I've been using the Brave portable that is downloadable and discussed here -> https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=6150.

Portables can be stored outside of the F96-CE_4 file system! For example /mnt/sda1/brave-portable. Also different frugal installations of Puppy Linux and or KLV's can also use the same exact portable!

Take a look at the topic from the link and let us know how you are doing.


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:10 am
by bigpup

After setting up my laptop with F96-CE puppylinux

This is not very useful info.

This is what info we really need to give good help:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=218


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:29 am
by bigpup

Here is information on Steam:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=4320

The first post is trying to get you setup with a working Steam program.
But they are not really trying to make it work very well in Linux version.

They seem to be constantly tweaking it with a new version, but it still stays 32bit Linux.

The best I have ever been able to get it to do is allow me to download some of the Linux based games.
Get them installed in Puppy to run them.

Depends on the game what issues it may have.

The free ones, that are not so complicated and system demanding, seem to work OK.

The Games offered in the forum Additional Software ->Games are better to use in Puppy Linux.
The games topic will provide needed info on using it in Puppy Linux and most of the time, a good download link to get it from.


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:55 pm
by Will_Shok

Sorry for taking so long to reply i was busy all weekend and couldnt get a hold of my computer but from what ive seen its a lenovo thinkpad t430s it has an Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz and 3637 MB of ram it has fossapup64 CE linux6.0.12-fp (im unsure if this information will be useful to you) this is what i have been able to find by myself if you want any monre info you will have to direct me to where to find it .Thanks so much for asnwering my post and ill be sure to try to install all these programs when I am able to


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:55 pm
by Will_Shok

ok i have dowloaded brave portable but it doesnt start once i click on it im sure i installed it right any help is aprecciated


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:34 pm
by williwaw
Will_Shok wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:55 pm

it im sure i installed it right

You may have, but we cant help unless you explain in more detail how you installed it and where and be more specific about which brave you installed>


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:26 pm
by bigpup

I assume you are talking about this:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=6150

Did you do exactly what it says in the first post about how to download and run it?

As always:-

Download

Unzip

Move the extracted 'portable' directory anywhere you like, though preferably outside the 'save'

Click on the directory, to enter it, and see the files in it.

Click on 'LAUNCH' to run it entirely as a portable application - the profile is, as usual, created inside the portable directory. For greater system integration, a Menu entry may be added using the supplied scripts, if one is required


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:05 am
by mikeslr

First a follow-up on bigpup's mention of unzip. If you didn't know Puppy's provide a lot of Right-Click options. Rather than starting from an application on the Menu [e.g., Menu>Utility>UExtract or XArchive or pExtract] then file-browsing to the archive, you can file-browse to the archive, Right-Click it and select e.g. UExtract from the drop down menu.

The gist of the posts about steam is that under Linux it's a 32-bit application. F96-CE4 is a 64bit operating system. Puppys have problems running multi-architecture*. There's a work-around. But you may want to consider using a debiandog, https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewforum.php?f=22 or a Kennel Linux, https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewforum.php?f=192. Don't hesitate to ask for recommendations. If you do that, be sure to identify what other objectives you have.

To run a 32bit application under a 64-bit Puppy, you have to download, then load the 32-bit compatibility SFS. For F96-CE4, you'll find a link to 32bit-compatibilty-fossa64.sfs here, https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 882#p85882.

*Compatibility SFSes contain almost an entire operating system. They can't be installed in Puppys because some of their files and instructions would over-write or conflict with those of the Main (64bit) operating system. Puppys operate as a 'merged in RAM' system. See, https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=5818. However, Application SFSes --such as the 32-bit-compatibility-- are not merged but rather are only mounted and have lower priority than the contents of a SaveFile/Folder. Always remaining separate from the Main system in RAM, and having lower priority than the contents of the aforementioned SaveFile/Folder potential conflicts are avoided.

Once you download an SFS, locate it on /mnt/home --the partition on which Puppy's other system files are located. [It can be anywhere, including within a folder; except that it must be outside any folder which would be preserved in a SaveFile/Folder. Hence it must 'hang' from /mnt]. /mnt/home is the only partition mounted by default on boot-up; so the best location for SFS-applications you frequently want.

If you execute a Save while an SFS is loaded, it will always be loaded on boot-up until you unload it (e.g. Right-Click the SFS, then SFS-Load: it's a toggle) and execute a Save to preserve that change. Only the instruction for SFS-Loading an SFS are preserved in the SaveFile/Folder; not the SFS, itself.


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:46 pm
by Will_Shok
bigpup wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:26 pm

I assume you are talking about this:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=6150

Did you do exactly what it says in the first post about how to download and run it?

As always:-

Download

Unzip

Move the extracted 'portable' directory anywhere you like, though preferably outside the 'save'

Click on the directory, to enter it, and see the files in it.

Click on 'LAUNCH' to run it entirely as a portable application - the profile is, as usual, created inside the portable directory. For greater system integration, a Menu entry may be added using the supplied scripts, if one is required

yes i did exactly this although i might have screwed up somewhere, wich sounds unlikely but could be an option


Re: questions about downloading, installing programs and extracting zip files

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:59 am
by bigpup

From the link to the download location, provided in my previous post.

You downloaded the package file Brave-portable64.tar.xz
Yes?
In Rox file manager you navigate to it's location.
Yes?
You right clicked on it and selected pextract.
Yes?
In pextract main window selected to extract.
Yes?
Now you will have a Brave-portable64 directory displayed as a brave icon.
Yes?
Left click on this Brave-portable64 directory to open it showing contents.
Yes?
Left click on the LAUNCH file in the displayed contents of the brave directory.
Brave browser should open.
If no.
I really do not know what you are doing wrong.
works for me in F96-CE_4 i have installed and using it to post this.

Note:
It will nag about needing updated.
To do this for this portable install.
Open the Brave directory there are several exec files.
Right click on the UpdateBrave file and select to run in terminal.
When it completes.
LAUNCH will now run the updated version of Brave.

The menuAdd file when left clicked on will make a menu entry for Brave in menu ->Internet
.