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ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 3

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ManjaroPup64 24.01 is a hybrid of Puppy Linux and Manjaro. It boots/shutdown like a puppy and it works like Manjaro.
It's just a proof-of-concept that puppy able to work on systemd or any init system with minimal modifications.

WARNING: THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL DISTRO. USE UNDER YOUR OWN RISK

Features:
* All upstream Manjaro workflow on top of Puppy
* Swappable kernel modules and firmware drivers
* SFS load on the fly (for AUFS as root filesystem)
* Odd numbered PUPMODES (except PUPMODE 5) are no longer supported
* Only supports Arch Linux packages.

Known issues:
* Some core puppy application might be broken
* Need to exclude SFS modules on systemd unmount process. Only puppy shutdown script should take care these SFS modules

System Requirements:
* The same as system requirements for Manjaro
* At least 4-8GB of ram or larger

Default credentials:
* username: manjaro
* password: manjaro
* root password: manjaro

Support coverage:
* Puppy - Boot/Shutdown sequences, SFS on the fly loading, savefile resizing, and kernel
* Manjaro - All manjaro stuff including package management and apps. Manjaro forums link

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nhXnYG ... 0zvz1cIE2o
MD5 Checksum: c6e9aee4afb436e2b1fd58c76e1c285a

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Hello @mistfire

Read the thread before attempts at booting the ISO file in a VM. As this is 'Experimental', I choose to test in a VM (QEMU).

I understand your instructions on the pre-boot dialogue for Session management.

Booting the ISO file works; directly OR via 'launchers'!

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qemu-system-x86_64 -name "WoofCE PUP ISO from Ventoy USB" -enable-kvm -vga cirrus -m 2G -smp 2 -device AC97 -net nic -net user -rtc base=localtime /dev/sdc
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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Question ... understanding the 'new' Session management feature at boot-time.

  • If the boot folder with the ISO has a SAVESPEC (@gyrog's WoofCE feature for directing where Sessions are) should the pop-up for session selection occur during boot?

  • (same question for when the PUP's Menu boot stanza has a psave=... entry added by user at boot time)

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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The Table of Mistfire's distros ISO boot results, by distro-version, are posted here.
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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Clarity wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:56 am

Question ... understanding the 'new' Session management feature at boot-time.

  • If the boot folder with the ISO has a SAVESPEC (@gyrog's WoofCE feature for directing where Sessions are) should the pop-up for session selection occur during boot?

Sorry but SAVESPEC file is currently not supported

Clarity wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:56 am

[*](same question for when the PUP's Menu boot stanza has a psave=... entry added by user at boot time)[/list]

If there is PSAVE parameter specified then the save session popup will not show, it simply continues the boot process

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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mistfire wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:17 am

If there is PSAVE parameter specified then the save session popup will not show, it simply continues the boot process

See my reports.

I had expected exactly as you post, BUT, that does not happen. If a psave is specified at menu time, the request for session management during boot occurs, regardless.

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P.S. In the reports, you will also see I tested bare-metal as well.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Clarity wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:48 am
mistfire wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:17 am

If there is PSAVE parameter specified then the save session popup will not show, it simply continues the boot process

See my reports.

I had expected exactly as you post, BUT, that does not happen. If a psave is specified at menu time, the request for session management during boot occurs, regardless.Boot Stop(1).jpgBoot Stop(2).jpg

P.S. In the reports, you will also see I tested bare-metal as well.

PSAVE parameter on ManjaroPup64 uses traditional format

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<block device or partition ID>:<path of savefile>

example

sdb4:/puppy/tahr/tahrsave
or
49baa82d-8c69:tahrsave

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Hello @mistfire
Does this mean that this 'old' format has been changed?
Namely, PSAVE=partition-label:folder-name ... which matches the SAVESPEC file contents. (see this from a WoofCE developer)

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Clarity wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:53 pm

Hello @mistfire
Does this mean that this 'old' format has been changed?
Namely, PSAVE=partition-label:folder-name ... which matches the SAVESPEC file contents. (see this from a WoofCE developer)

Well that is according to the comments (that was written inside the init script) of previous developer who wrote the init script. Actually the initrd used by ManjaroPup64 and even QuickPup64 was a fork of June 2016 commit of upstream initrd.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Hope you had a moment to review the link I provided.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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@mistfire
Just one test on HP i5 @ 2.40GHz (2 cores) ram 4Gb.
Booting direct from iso/frugal have only autosave.
- Pmedia=ataflash still error.
- Ram usage over 2Gb
- Cpu temp. very high around 60c (only the browser open).
Thanks, I think it not for my HP.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Clarity wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:04 pm

Hope you had a moment to review the link I provided.

For long months I attempted to implement savespec file. Still having conflicts with my init script. I hope to find workaround to support that

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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esos wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:29 am

@mistfire
Just one test on HP i5 @ 2.40GHz (2 cores) ram 4Gb.
Booting direct from iso/frugal have only autosave.
- Pmedia=ataflash still error.
- Ram usage over 2Gb
- Cpu temp. very high around 60c (only the browser open).
Thanks, I think it not for my HP.

Manjaro was much a bleeding edge distro. so it requires more recent hardware

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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Clarity wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:53 pm

Hello @mistfire
Does this mean that this 'old' format has been changed?
Namely, PSAVE=partition-label:folder-name ... which matches the SAVESPEC file contents. (see this from a WoofCE developer)

It's seems I finally cracked the problem on how to implement PSAVE and SAVESPEC properly

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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mistfire wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:00 am

Manjaro was much a bleeding edge distro. so it requires more recent hardware

Not sure I would entirely agree with that, as I've never had a problem running Manjaro on this 14 year old laptop. In fact I quite like Manjaro simply because it's been a trouble free distro. So the idea of a Puppy based on Manjaro quickly caught my eye and I've given it a spin. Here are the results so far.

First time it took an age to boot up. After I had created Save and booted for second time it was a little quicker, but still longer than any other Puppy, or most other Linux distros for that matter. On first run shutdown also took quite a while, but on second run shutdown was pretty quick.

Ran Sea Monkey briefly, only looked at two websites but all was ok.

When I clicked on "Firewall Configuration" in the menu nothing happened, so I've no idea whether Firewall is on or off.

Installed two additional bits of software. Firstly my favourite music player, Strawberry, which I'm pleased to say worked, properly. That is it displayed the song lyrics. When I tried it in Bookworm it played the tracks ok but no lyrics.

Secondly I installed Aisleriot, and also the optional Pysol. Pysol ran and functioned exactly as it should but the basic Aisleriot wouldn't run. Same as the Firewall, clicked on it in the menu but nothing happened. Both bits of software installed quickly.

I know this is only a Beta version, and it was interesting to try out. I will certainly be keeping my eyes open for any further developments.

Thank you for your efforts so far @mistfire :thumbup:

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 1

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stevie pup wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 2:56 pm
mistfire wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:00 am

Manjaro was much a bleeding edge distro. so it requires more recent hardware

Not sure I would entirely agree with that, as I've never had a problem running Manjaro on this 14 year old laptop. In fact I quite like Manjaro simply because it's been a trouble free distro. So the idea of a Puppy based on Manjaro quickly caught my eye and I've given it a spin. Here are the results so far.

First time it took an age to boot up. After I had created Save and booted for second time it was a little quicker, but still longer than any other Puppy, or most other Linux distros for that matter. On first run shutdown also took quite a while, but on second run shutdown was pretty quick.

Ran Sea Monkey briefly, only looked at two websites but all was ok.

When I clicked on "Firewall Configuration" in the menu nothing happened, so I've no idea whether Firewall is on or off.

Installed two additional bits of software. Firstly my favourite music player, Strawberry, which I'm pleased to say worked, properly. That is it displayed the song lyrics. When I tried it in Bookworm it played the tracks ok but no lyrics.

Secondly I installed Aisleriot, and also the optional Pysol. Pysol ran and functioned exactly as it should but the basic Aisleriot wouldn't run. Same as the Firewall, clicked on it in the menu but nothing happened. Both bits of software installed quickly.

I know this is only a Beta version, and it was interesting to try out. I will certainly be keeping my eyes open for any further developments.

Thank you for your efforts so far @mistfire :thumbup:

Well it tooks a long to bootup because of generating icon theme cache for Papirus Icon set which was extremely huge number of icons on it

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ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2 released

Changes:
* Linux kernel 6.10.2-lxpup64
* Improved initrd. Now supports SAVESPEC file and PSAVE boot parameters has been fixed.
* Improved boot time.
* User password and root password now persists.
* Added FrugalPup for installing ManjaroPup to other storage devices
* Pipewire pulse now works on root account
* Sleep now works

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fQZNiZ ... wLjDgY0LDS
MD5 Checksum: 1bea451f298278830735d0781577ac3d

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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@stevie pup you may try latest release that I made.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:01 am

@stevie pup you may try latest release that I made.

I certainly will, if not later today then tomorrow. Thank you

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mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:02 am

ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2 released

Changes:
* Linux kernel 6.10.2-lxpup64
* Improved initrd. Now supports SAVESPEC file and PSAVE boot parameters has been fixed.
* Improved boot time.
* User password and root password now persists.
* Added FrugalPup for installing ManjaroPup to other storage devices
* Pipewire pulse now works on root account
* Sleep now works

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fQZNiZ ... wLjDgY0LDS
MD5 Checksum: 1bea451f298278830735d0781577ac3d

I will try this new iso. Congratulations for this manjaro project.
I was testing with the previous iso.
It doesn't have gru2config. I added it, but I had to make some changes to it to make it work.
Thank you again

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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josejp2424 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:07 pm
mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:02 am

ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2 released

Changes:
* Linux kernel 6.10.2-lxpup64
* Improved initrd. Now supports SAVESPEC file and PSAVE boot parameters has been fixed.
* Improved boot time.
* User password and root password now persists.
* Added FrugalPup for installing ManjaroPup to other storage devices
* Pipewire pulse now works on root account
* Sleep now works

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fQZNiZ ... wLjDgY0LDS
MD5 Checksum: 1bea451f298278830735d0781577ac3d

I will try this new iso. Congratulations for this manjaro project.
I was testing with the previous iso.
It doesn't have gru2config. I added it, but I had to make some changes to it to make it work.
Thank you again

What changes did you made, in order to make grub2config work again? Can you also send the grub2config packages used? Thank you

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:05 pm
josejp2424 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:07 pm
mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:02 am

ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2 released

Changes:
* Linux kernel 6.10.2-lxpup64
* Improved initrd. Now supports SAVESPEC file and PSAVE boot parameters has been fixed.
* Improved boot time.
* User password and root password now persists.
* Added FrugalPup for installing ManjaroPup to other storage devices
* Pipewire pulse now works on root account
* Sleep now works

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fQZNiZ ... wLjDgY0LDS
MD5 Checksum: 1bea451f298278830735d0781577ac3d

I will try this new iso. Congratulations for this manjaro project.
I was testing with the previous iso.
It doesn't have gru2config. I added it, but I had to make some changes to it to make it work.
Thank you again

What changes did you made, in order to make grub2config work again? Can you also send the grub2config packages used? Thank you

Then I'm going to pass gru2config, also there is a problem with fat32 when I want to mount that kind of partitions.
When I'm at home, I'll take a look at it. I am very entertained with your project.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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@mistfire I've given it a spin. First time I booted it was again very slow, but once I had created a save folder and booted for a second time it was better, although it still took longer than any other Puppy.

Still nothing happens when I click on "Firewall configuration" in menu, and I think there was something else I clicked on in menu where again nothing happened, but sorry, can't remember what it was. Aisleriot still won't run either.

That's all I've done so far, hoping to have time to do some more tests over the weekend.

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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stevie pup wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:20 am

Still nothing happens when I click on "Firewall configuration" in menu, and I think there was something else I clicked on in menu where again nothing happened, but sorry, can't remember what it was.

Upon checking with vanilla manjaro it seems pkexec was broken on their end. If you want to access the firewall configuration then run this on terminal

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2

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mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:05 pm
josejp2424 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:07 pm
mistfire wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:02 am

ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 2 released

Changes:
* Linux kernel 6.10.2-lxpup64
* Improved initrd. Now supports SAVESPEC file and PSAVE boot parameters has been fixed.
* Improved boot time.
* User password and root password now persists.
* Added FrugalPup for installing ManjaroPup to other storage devices
* Pipewire pulse now works on root account
* Sleep now works

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fQZNiZ ... wLjDgY0LDS
MD5 Checksum: 1bea451f298278830735d0781577ac3d

I will try this new iso. Congratulations for this manjaro project.
I was testing with the previous iso.
It doesn't have gru2config. I added it, but I had to make some changes to it to make it work.
Thank you again

What changes did you made, in order to make grub2config work again? Can you also send the grub2config packages used? Thank you

I sent it to you by M.P. for you to try.

a package that should have the iso is pkgfile-21-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst .

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I leave the rox-filer package.
for those who like rox like me.
is the one I use in archpup

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xt04prkg ... kg.tar.zst

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Playing a little bit for the prompt for manjaropup with synth-shell
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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 3

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ManajaroPup64 24.01 BETA 3 released

Changes:
* Improved initrd
* Improved boot and shutdown process
* Improved autoconfiguration
* Added dconf-editor

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nhXnYG ... 0zvz1cIE2o
MD5 Checksum: c6e9aee4afb436e2b1fd58c76e1c285a

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Re: ManjaroPup64 24.01 BETA 3

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Always good to hear of 'improvements', but a bit of a mystery when changelog usefully provided but doesnt actually say what the improvements are? Just curious, because always interesting to know what actual changes and developments have been done...

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