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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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@radky

I haven't downloaded 10,0.7 yet. [Have to do that from laptop which is near to router]. But
I have an issue with Synapse and don't recall if I specifically mentioned it on a Bookworm thread. The Changelog doesn't reflect any relevant change.

Synapse has some nifty features. But I keep all datafiles in folders on /mnt/home. I could find no way for Synapse to search beyond /root: no adjustment to preferences; and it did not follow symlinks in /root to elsewhere. Adding Synapse to Right-Click menu achieved nothing. Unless I've missed something, it's basically useless.

Compare Right-Click (folder)>Search with pfind.

@radky @rockedge @dimkr This is not just a Bookworm issue. I know I've mentioned it several times. Maybe it has to be fixed at woof. On initial boot QuickSet up is automatically run. It offers to sync to the User's time server before the User has configured wifi. [Maybe when it was written the assumption was everyone had a lan connection to the router]. At any rate, AS-IS the setup appears amateurish: asking someone who has to use wifi to do the impossible so that an error message will be displayed. Either leave that module out, or change the order, testing for an internet connection before triggering the time-server configuration module.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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mikeslr wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:19 pm

Synapse has some nifty features. But I keep all datafiles in folders on /mnt/home. I could find no way for Synapse to search beyond /root: no adjustment to preferences; and it did not follow symlinks in /root to elsewhere.

Synapse Usage Guidelines:

BW64 Menu -> Help -> HOWTO use the Synapse Application Launcher

Synapse parses .desktop files in the /usr/share/applications folder and quickly launches the same applications available in the main Puppy menu. In BW64, Synapse also integrates the plocate utility to find and launch executable files -- or to open/view filetypes supported by appropriate mimetypes.

The plocate utility finds files by parsing a database of current system files generated by the updatedb.plocate utility at each boot -- or you can update on demand (Menu -> Filesystem -> Synapse update). If updatedb.plocate is called without additional configuration parameters, it will defer to parameters defined in /etc/updatedb.conf.

The plocate utility does not search the /mnt/home symlink to/initrd/mnt/dev_save but we can configure /etc/updatedb.conf to support direct scans of /initrd/mnt/dev_save (and exclude searching of the pup_* folders in /initrd).

If interested, you could try the following to support plocate searching of /initrd/mnt/dev_save:

(first, make a backup of /etc/updatedb.conf)

METHOD 1:

Run the following in a terminal to enable searching of /initrd/mnt/dev_save (and disable searching of /initrd/mnt/tmpfs and pup_*):

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sed -i 's%/initrd %/initrd/mnt/tmpfs /initrd/pup_a /initrd/pup_b /initrd/pup_dev /initrd/pup_f /initrd/pup_k /initrd/pup_loop /initrd/pup_ro1 /initrd/pup_ro2 /initrd/pup_rw /initrd/pup_z %' /etc/updatedb.conf

Then update the plocate database of system files: Menu -> Filesystem -> Synapse update

METHOD 2:

Alternatively, you can manually edit the blacklist directives in /etc/updatedb.conf

Go to line #3 (PRUNEPATHS) and replace

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/initrd

with

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/initrd/mnt/tmpfs /initrd/pup_a /initrd/pup_b /initrd/pup_dev /initrd/pup_f /initrd/pup_k /initrd/pup_loop /initrd/pup_ro1 /initrd/pup_ro2 /initrd/pup_rw /initrd/pup_z

Caveat:

The plocate database (/var/lib/plocate/plocate.db) is only as current as the most recent call to /usr/sbin/updatedb.plocate (which updates the database). If you create new files or delete old files, plocate will not be aware of the changes until the database is updated again.

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BookwormPup64 10.0.7 CD version

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I made a more compressed version of BookwormPup64 10.0.7, to fit on a CD (is 692mb). Also made a delta (246mb).

New version 17/9/24.

If your cpu temp display doesn't work, I made a new version (which allows for changes in this pup's base).
See: https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 82#p125682

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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Hello @radky and @rockedge. Very nice PUP.

To me, this appears as a work of Art. Very rapid executions.

On bare-metal Boots as expected in SG2D while a Ventoy launch will trap with/without a :psave=..." parm entry. Operates as expected on desktop and session saves as expected with WoofCE distro where the SAVESPEC file directs the location for saving and accessing the PUP's session. Thus, when launched from SG2D no user efforts are needed as the distro will progress (as expected) to desktop and will operate including shutdown without any issues.

QEMU report will be forthcoming.

Found a nagging issue in FirstRUN as it relates to the taskbar. See #1 in pic.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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The #2 in above picture is not something tied to BKWP64. That item is a concern I've had for years and not sure which of the authors/contributors for FIrstRUN my concern should be directed.

Reason:
Some systems have an nvidia adapter (and others) for connecting monitor(s) to the system. And more and more users are using monitors-TVs connected via HDMI which also carries audio to the monitors.

When I first noticed this, I "thought" that the author(s) may at some point planned for that checkbox to ALSO allow a driver switch to occur.

So for years I had been hopeful that that option would expand to accommodate switching drivers.

But, as Linux systems progress more and more over time with nvidia continuing to give an allusion to becoming more Linux compliant, this box will probably never have its feature-set expanded for driver changes.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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I completed 80% of my package needs for long term use. It has taken a bit of time, today, to get to where I am for my uses. CPU with 5 Chrome windows open sits at 1% with NO 8G Swap partition storage used, as it sits at 0. Current system view on bare-metal with packages I've added is in this picture.:

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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BookwormPup64 10.0.7
Frugal install with save folder.

Pmount program

Right click on a listed partition that is not mounted.
Select check file system
Nothing happens.

Yes the partition is formatted in a format that should be able to be checked. (ext 3 or 4)

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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The BookwormPup64 build recipe is now available on Github Woof-CE and BookwormPup64 can be built using Github Actions:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... n/dpupbw64

(Note: the .sfs are larger due to the Github run environment providing an older version of zstd)

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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bigpup wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:59 am

BookwormPup64 10.0.7
Frugal install with save folder.

Pmount program

Right click on a listed partition that is not mounted.
Select check file system
Nothing happens.

Yes the partition is formatted in a format that should be able to be checked. (ext 3 or 4)

@bigpup

Please insert the ampersand symbol (&) at the end of the action command on line 554 of /usr/sbin/pmount.

"$ONEDEV\" &</action>

Then launch pmount, choose the partition to evaluate -- and select the 'check filesystem' option.

Hopefully, the terminal will open and we can see if fsck runs with or without errors.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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Made edit.

No help.

Still nothing happens.

No terminal opens.

I copied the complete 554 line (what is between the <action> and </action>) and entered it in a terminal and got this:
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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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@bigpup,

The $ONEDEV variable (i.e. the selected dev partition) is defined in the early part of the pmount script.

If you simply copy the line to a terminal the $ONEDEV variable is undefined, and the command sequence fails.

Please edit line 554 of pmount and make sure a space precedes the & symbol):

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		 <action>rxvt --hold --title \"pMount - $(gettext 'Puppy Drive Mounter')\" -geometry 80x10 -bg black -fg green -e fsck -Cv \"$ONEDEV\" &</action>

Please test on different partitions and different drives.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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That is the way I have had the edit.

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<action>rxvt --hold --title \"pMount - $(gettext 'Puppy Drive Mounter')\" -geometry 80x10 -bg black -fg green -e fsck -Cv \"$ONEDEV\" &</action>

Are you getting it to do a file system check?

If yes.

I am using a save that has had software added to it by using synaptic package manager.

I will do a clean no save boot and see if it is still not working.

Someone posting in another topic, found the issue, so I tried and got it also, so reported it to you.

Update:
Now very, very, sorry I even said anything about this!

With a clean boot and using a new save with nothing new added.
It is working to check file system on partitions not mounted.

Now I am going to have to find what is braking it in the old save. :thumbdown:

I hate it when a save is causing the issue!
This old one has some good stuff in it that I really want to keep.
I may just keep the issue.
Never really used Pmount for this check anyway.

Maybe I will figure out something and at least be able to help the other person, having the same issue with Pmount.

Again, very sorry making you have to deal with this!!!

I am loving the changes you did make with BookwormPup64 10.0.7! :D

UPDATE to the UPDATE:

It seems to be all about what mouse click you use to bring up the selection menu and also use to select.
Bring up the selection menu with a left click, then select file system check, by also using the left click.
It works.

If you use a right click to bring up the selection menu.
Left click on the file system check does nothing.
Right click on file system check and it works.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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bigpup wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:14 am

It seems to be all about what mouse click you use to bring up the selection menu and also use to select.
Bring up the selection menu with a left click, then select file system check, by also using the left click.
It works.

If you use a right click to bring up the selection menu.
Left click on the file system check does nothing.
Right click on file system check and it works.

It's a bug (feature? :roll: ) in GTK3.
E.g. in Geany open the "File" menu with rightclick, then leftclick "New". Nothing happens.
It works as expected when Pmount is run with gtk2dialog, but this would break other features.

@radky Regarding the command fsck -Cv . Does this really work? I can't check because all my file systems are NTFS. The usage info for fsck lists a -V option (capital V!) but no -v.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

Post by radky »

Thanks for testing and feedback.

@bigpup

GTK devs are adamant about the usefulness of features added (or removed) as GTK2 transitioned to GTK3. However, I think we all agree that GTK3 lacks many of the convenient capabilities of GTK2, and additional restrictions are implemented in GTK4. It seems these functional quirks (bugs) are considered new features by the GTK devs.

@MochiMoppel

The fsck -v parameter was implemented in the Puppy pmount script many years ago -- as early as 2013. I'm not sure if the lowercase -v was ever a supported parameter of fsck, or maybe just a typographical error introduced in pmount. In a quick test, I see no difference in fsck output when using or not using a lowercase -v parameter, so maybe lowercase -v is a long-standing (harmless) typographical error. However, using the uppercase -V parameter does provide (minimal) additional information about the evaluated partition.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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radky wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:40 pm

In a quick test, I see no difference in fsck output when using or not using a lowercase -v parameter

Confirmed. Very unusual that an option with wrong capitalization is simply ignored. Normally it triggers an error, occasionally it is accepted as valid, and there seems to be no consistency among the util-linux tools:

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# whereis -v
whereis: bad usage
Try 'whereis --help' for more information.

# whereis -V
whereis from util-linux 2.38.1

# blkid -v
blkid from util-linux 2.38.1  (libblkid 2.38.1, 04-Aug-2022)

# blkid -V
blkid from util-linux 2.38.1  (libblkid 2.38.1, 04-Aug-2022)

However, using the uppercase -V parameter does provide (minimal) additional information about the evaluated partition.

I find the "verbose" information not minimal but rather essential (tested with a mounted sfs file, type ext2). However in my case the fsck command apparently runs e2fsck, and in e2fsck the option for verbose is lowercase -v, not uppercase as in fsck. Could be the reason for lowercase in pmount.

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# fsck -nV /dev/loop4
fsck from util-linux 2.38.1
[/sbin/fsck.ext2 (1) -- /dev/loop4] fsck.ext2 -n /dev/loop4 
e2fsck 1.47.0 (5-Feb-2023)
Warning!  /dev/loop4 is mounted.
/dev/loop4 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/loop4: 2917/65536 files (8.5% non-contiguous), 109855/262144 blocks

# fsck -nv /dev/loop4
fsck from util-linux 2.38.1
e2fsck 1.47.0 (5-Feb-2023)
Warning!  /dev/loop4 is mounted.
/dev/loop4 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information

        2917 inodes used (4.45%, out of 65536)
         249 non-contiguous files (8.5%)
           0 non-contiguous directories (0.0%)
             # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 246/18/0
      109855 blocks used (41.91%, out of 262144)
           0 bad blocks
           1 large file

        2035 regular files
         695 directories
           0 character device files
           0 block device files
           3 fifos
           0 links
         172 symbolic links (165 fast symbolic links)
           3 sockets
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        2908 files
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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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Interesting cputemp observation. I made a 6.9.9 usrmerge kernel (will share soon) & only had to run: modprobe coretemp (on my Intel PC - modprobe k10temp would work with most AMD), then restart X to get the taskbar thermometer going. Doesn't work in 6.1.94 stock kernel. I note that gatotray takes the first temp1_input it finds on my PC, which is static 25C. If I could make it search in reverse, would get a more meaningful temp to display.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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@ozsouth

By default, Gatotray probes CPU sensor temperature in the following sequence, and displays the first value found.

1 - /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/temp1_input
2 - /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/device/temp1_input
3 - /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/temp1_input
4 - /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/temp1_input
5 - /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
6 - /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature
7 - /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM0/temperature
8 - /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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The Table of BookWormPup64 boot results, by version, are posted here.
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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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@radky - thanks for that. Once I load coretemp , my real cpu temp is displayed at ...hwmon4/temp3_input . After the PC has been running for a while, that will be the highest (or equal highest) temp, whilst ...hwmon0/temp1_input is static 25C & ...hwmon1/temp1_input doesn't exist. When the PC is stone-cold, ..hwmon0/temp1_input (static 25C) will be the highest, so my latest .pet can fail if installed then, requiring /root/.config/pmcputemp/pmcputemprc to be deleted when the PC warms up, to facilitate re-detection. Tricky business indeed for all pups.

LATER: I recompiled gatotray so hwmon is checked in reverse - 4-3-2-1-0 & first temp found is used. My cpu temp displays changes now, without coretemp.
IF your temp display isn't working, can try .pet below at own risk. I added puninstall, so that if it doesn't work, uninstalling should restore original.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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@radky
Info to you.
After getting the Nvidia driver to install and work in BookwormPup64 10.0.7.
See the topic on it.
viewtopic.php?t=12134

I went back to the topic on installing the Nvidia driver in BookwormPup64 10.0.6
Was not working anymore, because of driver change in the repository.

Well. I combined the two procedures, that added needed changes, and got the version 10.0.6, to also be able to install the latest driver in the repository.
Edited xwin and added the replacement tr file.
Used the apt commands used for 10.0.7

You can read the new procedure in the topic for BookwormPup64 10.0.6
viewtopic.php?t=11038

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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Hello guys..
BookwormPup64 10.0.7 is a flexible tool for ardent readers, offering a smooth reading experience with its user-friendly design and adjustable features. Its most recent version includes increased performance and additional functions, increasing overall usefulness and delight for book lovers.
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@Daisy98
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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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Daisy98 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:13 pm

Hello guys..
BookwormPup64 10.0.7 is a flexible tool for ardent readers, offering a smooth reading experience with its user-friendly design and adjustable features. Its most recent version includes increased performance and additional functions, increasing overall usefulness and delight for book lovers.

So Book-wormpup64 is about "reading". Sounds like nonsense post (spam?) to me.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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wiak wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:55 pm
Daisy98 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:13 pm

Hello guys..
BookwormPup64 10.0.7 is a flexible tool for ardent readers, offering a smooth reading experience with its user-friendly design and adjustable features. Its most recent version includes increased performance and additional functions, increasing overall usefulness and delight for book lovers.

So Book-wormpup64 is about "reading". Sounds like nonsense post (spam?) to me.

Yeah, perhaps AI generated ? :?: :(

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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Hi All,
I'm using BookwormPup64 10.0.7 with a Toshiba Satellite L750 laptop. I wish to ask a question about the operation of the battery level indicator. If I hover the mouse pointer over the icon I see the the battery condition as a percentage. If I click on the icon I get the information panel shown below. My question is about the item Alarm. as you can see it appears to be set to zero. I would like to be able to set this alarm to say 20% but I cannot find a way to do this. I have looked at/root/.config but cannot see anything that looks to be linked to this battery level indicator. Could somebody please point me in the right direction in terms of setting up the battery level alarm. If this is not possible can anybody suggest a battery level alarm that would work in BookwormPup64 10.0.7.

Regards,

Ken.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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I use cbatticon from here:

https://github.com/valr/cbatticon

And I have a simple script, called cbatt in /root/Startup, that doesn't sound an alarm, but starts the game rubix if battery
level falls to 10%, and shuts down at 3%.

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cbatticon -l 10 -o rubix -r 3 -c wmpoweroff

You can easily replace "-o rubix" with something to generate a sound.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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I've just recently booted up Bookworm on a couple machines, and I've been setting it up the way I like, and it could be that the Synaptic package manager gives more information than say the ppm, but I wanted to check.

I was going to install w3m, and it appears it wants to install a gclib. I don't know if that's problematic or not.

If you know could you tell me? Thanks!
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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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geo_c wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:32 pm

I've just recently booted up Bookworm on a couple machines, and I've been setting it up the way I like, and it could be that the Synaptic package manager gives more information than say the ppm, but I wanted to check.

I was going to install w3m, and it appears it wants to install a gclib. I don't know if that's problematic or not.

If you know could you tell me? Thanks!

@geo_c

The Apt/Synaptic package manager evaluates the dependency tree and automatically installs the basic requisite dependencies of the selected package, and may offer additional packages (suggested and/or recommended) which may add functionality in some scenarios (but those extra packages are optional).

For example, in a terminal you could install w3m as follows:

Note: this will install the requisite w3m dependencies: libgpm2 and libgc1 (not glibc)

apt update && apt install w3m
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done

The following additional packages will be installed:
libgc1 libgpm2
Suggested packages:
gpm brotli cmigemo compface dict dict-wn dictd libsixel-bin mailcap w3m-el w3m-img xsel

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libgc1 libgpm2 w3m
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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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radky wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:55 pm

For example, in a terminal you could install w3m as follows:

Note: this will install the requisite w3m dependencies: libgpm2 and libgc1 (not glibc)

Thanks, I did make the erroneous assumption that the library was a glibc, but I guess every package that has g, c, or lib in the name isn't a glibc.

I'll get familiar with the command line manager. I like using command line for package management, but not so much when searching (or browsing) for packages. The gui is handy that way.

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Re: BookwormPup64 10.0.7

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WIth my installation of Fossapup64 the usb save file is loaded on both computers automatically. Great!
On my installation of Bookworm Pup the save file only loads on the original computer that I made it with. Not great?
I want to use the GNU Cash Version available for BookwormPup because the one for Fossapup has some problems. How do i make Bookworm Pup save file load at startup no matter what computer I am using like FOssapup does?

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