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Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:42 pm
by wanderer

hi all

what i am hearing is that both S15 and F96 are ready to go on distrowatch

is that correct on your part rockedge ?

the process for submission is very simple
and does not require any particular person

all you have to do is email jesse at distrowatch with the submission
i assume if anything needs to be added jesse will inform you
when i emailed him he was very helpful and prompt and answered sometimes in the same day

another issue is that of contacting 01micko and getting his blessing
i don't know what to think of all this since 01micko has never posted on this thread
i assume if he wanted to be involved he would have shown some interest
but what we do in this regard will have to be up to the community
since i have no way to contact 01micko anyway

the next step as i understand it is for the developers of each distro
to look at the distrowatch page and come up with a blurb and picture to submit to jesse

i also would like both distros to be featured
not only so that everyone gets credit for their work
but to show the diversity of the puppy universe

so community

what are your thoughts on all this

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:47 pm
by wanderer

hi again

posting the blurb and picture that will go on distrowatch on this thread would be useful
so everyone can have some input

doing everything on this thread will help keep it organized

and as far as i understand it
it will only take an email with an attachment
sent to jesse at distrowatch

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:23 pm
by wanderer

hi again

we could ask jesse if we could put both screenshots of S15 and F96 on the distrowatch page
with an explanation in the blurb that these are 2 of the many varieties of puppy

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:43 pm
by bigpup

There is no asking required of Distrowatch.

Just put together the announcement for the Puppy version and submit it.

I feel the actual developer of the Puppy version needs to do it.
They know their version of Puppy better than any of us.

since i have no way to contact 01micko anyway

01micko is a registered member of this forum.
Send him a PM.

However, he seems to be spending all his time on the Woof-CE web site.
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE

This is how to submit a version of Puppy for consideration of official status:
viewtopic.php?t=6247

peebee gives all the details in the 2nd post of this topic.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:37 am
by BarryK

Yeah, @peebee , go for it!

As bigpup said above, get it onto puppylinux.com

Then just send an email to distro@distrowatch.com,
to Ladislav & Jesse, announcing the new pup,
with an announcement blurb, or link to an announcement blurb,
a link to release notes, and link to download.

They would also like a list of packages with versions, so upload woof-installed-packages and devx-installed-packages, I append a .txt on them. And let them know links to them.

Ladislav is rather particular that there is both an announcement and a separate release notes.

If you like, I can send a brief email to them, letting them know that you are the new guy for the latest pup. But I might be usurping procedures a bit, as the "Puppy Master" is 01micko so you should attempt to contact him first.

--they might want to know your real name for their announcement.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 10:32 am
by peebee

Thanks @BarryK

"Announcement" is at viewtopic.php?t=7464
"Release Info" (has a partial list of apps) is at http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... -22.12.htm
Downloads:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... -22.12.htm
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... -22.12.htm

Artwork is at:
download/file.php?id=12291
download/file.php?id=12292

Perhaps you could also "announce" on your blog?? DW might respect that.

I would have a problem with "real name" I'm afraid - wouldn't want it displayed on DW!! Might tell them privately in an email. Would prefer the announcement to come from "The Puppy Linux Community"..... or in extremis "PeterB".


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:48 pm
by BarryK

OK, I have sent an email to distrowatch, letting them know there is a new pup, and gave them all the links.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:21 pm
by wanderer

hi barry, peebee and everyone

i note peebee's update has been posted on distrowatch

but the picture has not been changed

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:01 pm
by tosim

Attached is the DW listing for Puppy:

pup.png
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Many, many thanks to all involved in getting to this point.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:25 pm
by wanderer

hi all

sorry to be annoying

but can someone contact jesse at distrowatch to ask him to put the new screenshot up

thanks

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:22 am
by wanderer

hi all

since there has not been any response on this thread about contacting distrowatch about updating the screenshot
i have taken the liberty of emailing jesse about it

i assume it will been updated
or someone will contact me about the problem

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:20 am
by peebee

DW have also ignored the links provided and have used different ones - and no link to 32-bit version...... sigh :thumbdown:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/spup/f ... riod=daily

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Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:56 am
by hundido

I just read all 26 pages. Then I went to distrowatch, and saw that the announcement was made as I was reading this whole discussion. Made me smile. Here's hoping Jesse soon updates the screenshot with the one wanderer provided, thank you wanderer.

Thank you peebee for making the S15pup, I'm about to try it.

Thank you, lovely community, for all of the education and thoughtful collaboration, all you do. I enjoyed reading the discussion and considering the points.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:29 pm
by wanderer

hi peebee and everyone

dont worry about the little glitches
i will stay on it until i get everything solved

the important stuff is done

we have a new submission so we are not in danger of being marked dormant

and it is a great submission (would we expect anything less from peebee)

congratulations and thanks to peebee and the puppy community

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:03 pm
by wanderer

hi all

i am in contact with jesse at distrowatch
to fix the glitches on our page
as i said he is very helpful and prompt with replies

if anyone notices any problems
please post on this thread so we can address them

thanks

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:18 pm
by bigpup

First new user review of S15Pup64 on Distrowatch:

Simply amazing!

I've used another portable distro based on Slackware--Porteus 5--but my preference is Puppy. Porteus 5 works quite well once you get your head wrapped around the Porteus way of doing things; my experience with the S15Pup64 edition, on the other hand, required no deep dives into the user forum. Puppy's wizards do all the hand-holding.

I remember pondering the diminutive size of the Puppy iso: how good can it be?

Sometimes great things still come in small packages. Ten out of ten.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:34 pm
by bigpup

They need to also have the link to download the 32bit version of S15Pup.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/spup/f ... o/download


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:15 pm
by wanderer

hi all

i note that the puppy linux distrowatch page has not yet been fixed

it looks like distrowatch is a little slow and will need to be reminded

i will stay on this until it is fixed

if there are any further concerns about the page

post them on this thread

thanks

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:15 pm
by wanderer

finally the screenshot is up

but the links need to be corrected

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:35 pm
by amethyst

I see Puppy lies 5th in the Page Hit Ranking for the past 7 days. Could still overtake Manjaro in 4th place.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:33 pm
by mikeslr

I see Puppy face on Distrowatch now shows S15Pup64 as it's 'Standard Bearer'. But its introductory text hasn't changed in over a decade. It still reads:
"Puppy Linux is yet another Linux distribution. What's different here is that Puppy is extraordinarily small, yet quite full-featured. Puppy boots into a ramdisk and, unlike live CD distributions that have to keep pulling stuff off the CD, it loads into RAM. This means that all applications start in the blink of an eye and respond to user input instantly. Puppy Linux has the ability to boot off a flash card or any USB memory device, CDROM, Zip disk or LS/120/240 Superdisk, floppy disks, internal hard drive. It can even use a multisession formatted CD-RW/DVD-RW to save everything back to the CD/DVD with no hard drive required at all." https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=puppy

Lost --perhaps only suggested by implication-- is the opportunity to advise a potential user --who may not grasp that implication-- of Puppy's greatest strength for those interested in trying out operating systems: Puppy Does NOT Need an Entire Hard-Drive Partition. You don't have to create another Partition; you don't have to wipe-out whatever operating systems you currently have.

I don't have the vaguest idea how to get the text describing Puppy on DistroWatch changed. But I'd suggest it should read something like:

Puppy is an extraordinary small, yet full-featured and extendable Linux. Puppy’s base-system including its applications loads into RAM. This means those applications start in the blink of an eye and respond to user input instantly. Puppy can be booted off any storage media: DVD, USB-Key, hard-drive, etc. On a hard-drive Puppy only requires its own folder. That folder can be on the same partition used by Windows or another Linux.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:29 pm
by wanderer

hi mikeslr

i agree

the only thing needed to change the distrowatch page
is to email jesse at distrowatch with the change

he will then do it when he gets the time
this last time took a few days

what i see is there are 3 component of the page
1. the image
2. the blurb
3. the links

in my opinion
the puppy community needs to have these 3 things completed
and ready to put in an email to jesse when needed

i would suggest whomever is interested
post their suggestions on this thread
so we can end up with an email and attachment to send to distrowatch

once its completed I (or anyone) can email it to jesse

this should be an ongoing process since we want to keep the distrowatch page updated and active

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:39 am
by geo_c

Just stumbled on this: https://debugpointnews.com/puppy-linux-22-12-s15pup/

That outdated description is starting to take on a life of its own.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:44 am
by Grey

finally the screenshot is up

In the lower right corner of the DW-screenshot is a network indicator icon with a red cross. Users with a good memory may get the impression that (as in Fossapup), under certain conditions, the network periodically "falls off" when loading :)


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:15 am
by peebee
geo_c wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:39 am

Just stumbled on this: https://debugpointnews.com/puppy-linux-22-12-s15pup/

That outdated description is starting to take on a life of its own.

Actually a pretty good article..............


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 1:20 pm
by bigpup

+1

That is the first review of Puppy Linux, that actually seemed to understand, how Puppy works. :thumbup:


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:03 pm
by peebee

removed


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:50 pm
by wanderer

hi peebee

what do you mean

when i go to distrowatch its still the new screenshot

wanderer


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:04 am
by peebee

OK - maybe a caching problem on my tablet...... sorry.


Re: nominations for puppy on distrowatch

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:08 pm
by wanderer

hi peebee

yeah the same thing happened to me

for a while i thought the screenshot had not been changed until i deleted my cache

at least distrowatch is not going backward

by the way i think the screenshot looks great

you did a great job with S15

thanks