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BarryK wrote:

...another 4 years, i'll be pushing close to 80. If still alive, likely to be doing some things on the bucket list.

Ubuntu Touch mobile operating system set up UBports Foundation
https://ubports.com/foundation/ubports-foundation
Zig has set itself up as a Foundation and receives donations.

zig wiki wrote:

Zig development is funded by the Zig Software Foundation (ZSF), a non-profit corporation with Andrew Kelley as president, which accepts donations and hires multiple full-time employees.

Money is donated

Stogie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:22 pm

Barry, consider a succession plan for the EasyOS project. I'm sure there are people who would be eager to take over if you want to, or ever have to, stop working on the project either partially or totally, for whatever reason(s).

It would suck for the many happy and daily EasyOS users if the project just ended! Also it's too GOOD to end! There's nothing else like it out there.

@Stogie
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I read a post in this forum talking about AI, ( viewtopic.php?p=130418&hilit=AI+LIVES#p130418 )so let's ask ChatGPT...

What could happen to EasyOS if Barry Kauler stopped developing it and handed it over to others, as happened with Puppy Linux?

"If Barry Kauler were to stop developing **EasyOS** and handed it over to other developers, a scenario similar to what happened with **Puppy Linux** could occur. Here are some potential outcomes and their implications:

### 1. **Fragmentation of the Project**
- **Risk**: When a project changes hands, it could fragment into multiple versions (or "forks"), especially without clear leadership or consensus on its direction. This happened with Puppy Linux, leading to several derivatives (Fossapup, Slacko, BionicPup, etc.).
- **Positive**: Fragmentation could lead to innovation and adaptations for specific needs.
- **Negative**: It might result in a loss of identity or confusion among users.

### 2. **Loss of Original Focus**
- Barry Kauler has a very specific vision for EasyOS (experimenting with containers, extreme efficiency, ease of use). If he left the project, new leaders might shift that philosophy.
- This could make EasyOS lose some of its unique features or take it in a different direction than originally planned.

### 3. **Growth Through a Broader Community**
- If development transitioned to a more open community, EasyOS could benefit from a steady flow of new ideas, bug fixes, and support.
- However, coordinating a diverse community can be challenging, potentially leading to a loss of cohesion.

### 4. **Stagnation or Disappearance**
- Without a committed community or team to continue its development, EasyOS could stagnate or even disappear, relegated to a small niche of users and developers.

### 5. **Possible Consequences for Current Users**
- **Compatibility**: Users might face compatibility issues if new developers make fundamental changes to the system.
- **Support**: The quality and frequency of updates could vary, impacting the user experience.
- **Repositories**: Access to packages and integration with other distribution repositories could become more complicated without Barry’s oversight.

### Success Story Example: Puppy Linux
Although Puppy Linux experienced fragmentation after Barry stepped away, it remains a vibrant project with many useful derivatives. This demonstrates that a passionate community can keep a project alive and evolving.

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To mitigate risks, it would be ideal for Barry to plan a structured transition, leaving documentation, development guidelines, and clear leadership to ensure **EasyOS** continues.

What do you think? Would you prefer EasyOS to become more community-driven, or should it retain its original vision?"

"Live and learn."

bugnaw333 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:38 am

@BarryK
That is correct. Our medium language of instruction here in both private and public schools is English from pre-school up to college. Nowadays, most of our 4-yr old kids can fluently speak using the English language because of the internet and celfones.

Certainly I find that the educated and younger locals speak a fair amount of English, but a lot of the ones I know, understand somewhat but not great at speaking it. I'm talking about the 30 and 40 year olds who are general workers such as in construction or trike drivers. Restaurant workers usually pretty good, but depends what the conversation is about (good about food and tourism matters). Many even younger ones I know have had little to no access to computers at their colleges. They all glued to smartphones though - more than I've ever seen elsewhere.

@wiak , that's a common problem all around the world, haha....

but a lot of the ones I know, understand somewhat but not great at speaking

It's a pedagogy principle, Students are more competent at receptive skills that productive ones, so they understand a lot of English lang, but they can´t produce it.

4 skills L-S-R-W (Listening-speaking-reading-writing) and I verify every single day that they can Listen-Read, but they have problems with Speaking And Writing.

That's "Education"....

wiak wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:20 am

Many even younger ones I know have had little to no access to computers at their colleges. They all glued to smartphones though - more than I've ever seen elsewhere.

Our educational system before was 6 yrs. in elementary and 4 yrs. in high school. Last 2012, the govt. changed it to 7 years(adding 1 year kindergarten) and 6 years (adding 2 years senior high).

Regarding access to computers, only last 2010 poor kids started playing online gaming like "counter-strike" and DOTA in the internet cafes for less than a 1$/hr. Now, its only 5 peso/hr.
During COVID-19, e-learning was introduced to continue the schooling using internet cafes nearby.

If you take a ride in the PUVs today, you can find all passengers hooked-up to their smartphones.