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tammi806 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 pm

Okay so just for the hell of it I went ahead and installed 6.4.1 Daedalus onto internal hard drive and it seems to work well with one exception.

When using Chromium to stream Youtube videos that works okay until I open another browser on a different desktop or anywhere for that matter and the web page I'm streaming closes and I know that ain't right.

Only does it on Chromium browser seems I've had this issue before when using Google Chrome and that's a deal killer for me using Chromium and anything Google Chrome related.

I don't open multiple tabs as ya accidentally close one tab ya kill them all so I open a whole new browser.

This is why I prefer Firefox just seems to work better for me.

Okay just though I'd pass that on.

Have a good day all.

Update

Okay so I installed Google Chrome from the menu and it does the same as the Chromium browser.

I don't get it on other versions of Easy OS the default Chromium lets me open as many browser windows as I want and now on the latest version of Easy OS if I open another browser window it closes the previous browser window.

That doesn't happen when I use one open browser window and than use the tad + to open as many additional windows as I want and it's the same using Google Chrome.

I understand that Google Chrome and Chromium seem to have the money market share but I fail to see why most users seem to prefer Google Chrome and or Chromium browsers over Firefox just curious to know why.

Have a good day.
Thanks.

BarryK wrote:

I've got a really flakey memory, can't remember anything about packit and uextract.
Are they good to have?

uextract is a must have.

Easy Daedalus 6.4.1

-pclock worked well with pschedule
-SAMBA worked with my Chromebook
-recording of sound checked
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double post

Download problem for daedalus/easy.png
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... s/easy.png

Also
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... e/easy.png

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Also I noticed that there is no Easy icon for
this SFS --->
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... _amd64.sfs
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tammi806 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:41 pm

tammi806 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 pm

Okay so just for the hell of it I went ahead and installed 6.4.1 Daedalus onto internal hard drive and it seems to work well with one exception.

When using Chromium to stream Youtube videos that works okay until I open another browser on a different desktop or anywhere for that matter and the web page I'm streaming closes and I know that ain't right.

Only does it on Chromium browser seems I've had this issue before when using Google Chrome and that's a deal killer for me using Chromium and anything Google Chrome related.

I don't open multiple tabs as ya accidentally close one tab ya kill them all so I open a whole new browser.

This is why I prefer Firefox just seems to work better for me.

Okay just though I'd pass that on.

Have a good day all.

Update

Okay so I installed Google Chrome from the menu and it does the same as the Chromium browser.

I don't get it on other versions of Easy OS the default Chromium lets me open as many browser windows as I want and now on the latest version of Easy OS if I open another browser window it closes the previous browser window.

That doesn't happen when I use one open browser window and than use the tad + to open as many additional windows as I want and it's the same using Google Chrome.

To clarify, this problem is only with Easy Daedalus, Easy Scarthgap is ok?

BarryK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:00 am

tammi806 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:41 pm

tammi806 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 pm

Okay so just for the hell of it I went ahead and installed 6.4.1 Daedalus onto internal hard drive and it seems to work well with one exception.

When using Chromium to stream Youtube videos that works okay until I open another browser on a different desktop or anywhere for that matter and the web page I'm streaming closes and I know that ain't right.

Only does it on Chromium browser seems I've had this issue before when using Google Chrome and that's a deal killer for me using Chromium and anything Google Chrome related.

I don't open multiple tabs as ya accidentally close one tab ya kill them all so I open a whole new browser.

This is why I prefer Firefox just seems to work better for me.

Okay just though I'd pass that on.

Have a good day all.

Update

Okay so I installed Google Chrome from the menu and it does the same as the Chromium browser.

I don't get it on other versions of Easy OS the default Chromium lets me open as many browser windows as I want and now on the latest version of Easy OS if I open another browser window it closes the previous browser window.

That doesn't happen when I use one open browser window and than use the tad + to open as many additional windows as I want and it's the same using Google Chrome.

To clarify, this problem is only with Easy Daedalus, Easy Scarthgap is ok?

Correct.

I have created a Japanese language pack for easy daedalus.
It includes a Japanese input system, a few Japanese fonts, and translations of apps.

It also includes a script to restore the settings of the Japanese input system when /root/.xinitrc is initialized after sfs layer changes.

The topic in the Japanese forum
https://sakurapup.com/forum1/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3723

don570 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:18 pm

Download problem for daedalus/easy.png
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... s/easy.png

Also
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... e/easy.png
Screenshot 2024-10-31 19.12.47.png

___________________________________________

Also I noticed that there is no Easy icon for
this SFS --->
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... _amd64.sfs
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Thanks for reporting that.

tammi806 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:41 pm

tammi806 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 pm

Okay so just for the hell of it I went ahead and installed 6.4.1 Daedalus onto internal hard drive and it seems to work well with one exception.

When using Chromium to stream Youtube videos that works okay until I open another browser on a different desktop or anywhere for that matter and the web page I'm streaming closes and I know that ain't right.

Only does it on Chromium browser seems I've had this issue before when using Google Chrome and that's a deal killer for me using Chromium and anything Google Chrome related.

I don't open multiple tabs as ya accidentally close one tab ya kill them all so I open a whole new browser.

This is why I prefer Firefox just seems to work better for me.

Okay just though I'd pass that on.

Have a good day all.

Update

Okay so I installed Google Chrome from the menu and it does the same as the Chromium browser.

I don't get it on other versions of Easy OS the default Chromium lets me open as many browser windows as I want and now on the latest version of Easy OS if I open another browser window it closes the previous browser window.

That doesn't happen when I use one open browser window and than use the tad + to open as many additional windows as I want and it's the same using Google Chrome.

I understand that Google Chrome and Chromium seem to have the money market share but I fail to see why most users seem to prefer Google Chrome and or Chromium browsers over Firefox just curious to know why.

Have a good day.
Thanks.

I tested the opening of chromium with terminals. When the 2nd chromium opens, the first closes.

With ungoogled chromium no problem at first glance

Maybe related to the version
chromium is version 128.0.6613.84-1 (EDIT : WRONG see https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 56#p134756)
ungoogled chromium is version 130.0.6723.69

The version 130.0.6723.69-1 of chromium is avaiable in Daedalus : https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli ... m&x=submit

I made a video to show how to set up the zig programming language.
viewtopic.php?p=134800#p134800
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Caramel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:48 pm

tammi806 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:41 pm

tammi806 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:09 pm

Okay so just for the hell of it I went ahead and installed 6.4.1 Daedalus onto internal hard drive and it seems to work well with one exception.

When using Chromium to stream Youtube videos that works okay until I open another browser on a different desktop or anywhere for that matter and the web page I'm streaming closes and I know that ain't right.

Only does it on Chromium browser seems I've had this issue before when using Google Chrome and that's a deal killer for me using Chromium and anything Google Chrome related.

I don't open multiple tabs as ya accidentally close one tab ya kill them all so I open a whole new browser.

This is why I prefer Firefox just seems to work better for me.

Okay just though I'd pass that on.

Have a good day all.

Update

Okay so I installed Google Chrome from the menu and it does the same as the Chromium browser.

I don't get it on other versions of Easy OS the default Chromium lets me open as many browser windows as I want and now on the latest version of Easy OS if I open another browser window it closes the previous browser window.

That doesn't happen when I use one open browser window and than use the tad + to open as many additional windows as I want and it's the same using Google Chrome.

I understand that Google Chrome and Chromium seem to have the money market share but I fail to see why most users seem to prefer Google Chrome and or Chromium browsers over Firefox just curious to know why.

Have a good day.
Thanks.

I tested the opening of chromium with terminals. When the 2nd chromium opens, the first closes.

With ungoogled chromium no problem at first glance

Maybe related to the version
chromium is version 128.0.6613.84-1
ungoogled chromium is version 130.0.6723.69

The version 130.0.6723.69-1 of chromium is avaiable in Daedalus : https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli ... m&x=submit

The version 130.0.6723.69-1 is the version I'm using.

Oh well Google Chrome and Chromium just don't want to work the way they should work and used to work.

I'll just use Firefox until Google Chrome and Chromium get their act together.

As for ungoogled chromium forget it doesn't work on certain websites I visit.

I'm trying to get along with the OOTB default browsers but they're just no good for what I need which Google anything has always been that way for my use and it doesn't appear to have changed always problematic.

Guess I'll check out portable browsers and see how they work out.

Oh well it ain't the end of the world.

Have a good day or night wherever you are at.

Thanks.

Caramel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:48 pm

I tested the opening of chromium with terminals. When the 2nd chromium opens, the first closes.

With ungoogled chromium no problem at first glance

It seems the cause is lines 98-99 in /usr/bin/chromium

#kill any left-over processes from previous run of app...
killall --user ${APPname} ${APPname} > /dev/null 2>&1 #requires full killall from psmisc pkg.

Here are the processes owned by the user chromium when chromium runs

chromium 32194 27822 0 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/chromium.bin --no-default-browser-check --no-first-run --enable-chrome-browser-cloud-management=no --disable-features=AudioServiceSandbox
chromium 32321 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --syslog --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
chromium 32322 32194 34 10:17 pts/6 00:00:03 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --show-component-extension-options --enable-gpu-rasterization --no-default-browser-check --disable-pings --media-router=0 --enable-rem
chromium 32336 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chrome_crashpad_handler --monitor-self --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler --database=/home/chromium/.config/chromium/Crash Report
chromium 32338 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chrome_crashpad_handler --no-periodic-tasks --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler --database=/home/chromium/.config/chromium/Crash R
chromium 32342 32322 2 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --no-zygote-sandbox --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux
chromium 32343 32322 2 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --cha
chromium 32345 32343 0 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --cha
chromium 32369 1 1 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal
chromium 32379 32322 7 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=utility --utility-sub-type=network.mojom.NetworkService --lang=fr --service-sandbox-type=none --string-annotations --crashpad-h
chromium 32380 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-permission-store
chromium 32390 1 1 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
chromium 32391 32345 1 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=utility --utility-sub-type=storage.mojom.StorageService --lang=fr --service-sandbox-type=utility --string-annotations --crashpa
chromium 32420 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets
chromium 32426 1 1 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon
chromium 32427 32345 1 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --s
chromium 32428 32345 24 10:17 pts/6 00:00:01 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --i
chromium 32464 32342 14 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=gpu-process --enable-gpu-rasterization --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debi

When chromium runs, a call to chromium kills the executable chromium (The Appname for chromium is chromium, the excutable is chromium too)

It's different with ungoogled chromium because the Appname is ungoogled and the executable is chrome
With Firefox, the Appname is firefox and the executable is firefox-bin

Caramel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:48 pm

Maybe related to the version
chromium is version 128.0.6613.84-1
ungoogled chromium is version 130.0.6723.69

The version 130.0.6723.69-1 of chromium is avaiable in Daedalus : https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli ... m&x=submit

I just now checked, booted daedalus 6.4.1 -- it has chromium 130.0.6723.69

That is what I built easy daedalus with, in the devuan "security" repository.
That older version is in the devuan "main" repo, which I didn't use.

BarryK wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:54 am

Caramel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:48 pm

Maybe related to the version
chromium is version 128.0.6613.84-1
ungoogled chromium is version 130.0.6723.69

The version 130.0.6723.69-1 of chromium is avaiable in Daedalus : https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli ... m&x=submit

I just now checked, booted daedalus 6.4.1 -- it has chromium 130.0.6723.69

That is what I built easy daedalus with, in the devuan "security" repository.
That older version is in the devuan "main" repo, which I didn't use.

I was mistaken. I'm trusted PKGget

mate-calc needs libmpc library.

don570 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:40 pm

uextract is a must have.

I agree .
One example , it unpack an appimage , XArchive dont...
XArchive last version : 2008...or Last sourceforge site Update: 2013-04-11

I use UExtract to open MHTML files that chrome browser likes to use.
But images will open with a double click in Easy.

Hello.

The commands glxinfo and glxgears are not found, and they are named glxinfo.x86_64-linux-gnu and glxgears.x86_64-linux-gnu respectively.

So, hardinfo cannot display the information about OpenGL.

thinkpadfreak wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:15 am

Hello.

The commands glxinfo and glxgears are not found, and they are named glxinfo.x86_64-linux-gnu and glxgears.x86_64-linux-gnu respectively.

So, hardinfo cannot display the information about OpenGL.

Hi, as already stated on my previous post, the packages mesa-utils and mesa-utils-bin need to be installed, even if they are shown as already installed.

Federico wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:21 am

as already stated on my previous post, the packages mesa-utils and mesa-utils-bin need to be installed, even if they are shown as already installed.

Thanks.
Sorry for overlooking the detail of your post.

Since the executables exist in the system, I have created links to them for the time being.

don570 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:40 pm

BarryK wrote:

I've got a really flakey memory, can't remember anything about packit and uextract.
Are they good to have?

uextract is a must have.

UExtract will be in the next release of Easy Scarthgap and Daedalus, see blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202411/uextract ... actor.html

Caramel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:36 am

Caramel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:48 pm

I tested the opening of chromium with terminals. When the 2nd chromium opens, the first closes.

With ungoogled chromium no problem at first glance

It seems the cause is lines 98-99 in /usr/bin/chromium

#kill any left-over processes from previous run of app...
killall --user ${APPname} ${APPname} > /dev/null 2>&1 #requires full killall from psmisc pkg.

Here are the processes owned by the user chromium when chromium runs

chromium 32194 27822 0 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/chromium.bin --no-default-browser-check --no-first-run --enable-chrome-browser-cloud-management=no --disable-features=AudioServiceSandbox
chromium 32321 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --syslog --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
chromium 32322 32194 34 10:17 pts/6 00:00:03 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --show-component-extension-options --enable-gpu-rasterization --no-default-browser-check --disable-pings --media-router=0 --enable-rem
chromium 32336 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chrome_crashpad_handler --monitor-self --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler --database=/home/chromium/.config/chromium/Crash Report
chromium 32338 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chrome_crashpad_handler --no-periodic-tasks --monitor-self-annotation=ptype=crashpad-handler --database=/home/chromium/.config/chromium/Crash R
chromium 32342 32322 2 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --no-zygote-sandbox --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux
chromium 32343 32322 2 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --cha
chromium 32345 32343 0 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=zygote --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --cha
chromium 32369 1 1 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal
chromium 32379 32322 7 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=utility --utility-sub-type=network.mojom.NetworkService --lang=fr --service-sandbox-type=none --string-annotations --crashpad-h
chromium 32380 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-permission-store
chromium 32390 1 1 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
chromium 32391 32345 1 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=utility --utility-sub-type=storage.mojom.StorageService --lang=fr --service-sandbox-type=utility --string-annotations --crashpa
chromium 32420 1 0 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets
chromium 32426 1 1 10:17 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon
chromium 32427 32345 1 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --s
chromium 32428 32345 24 10:17 pts/6 00:00:01 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=renderer --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) --i
chromium 32464 32342 14 10:17 pts/6 00:00:00 /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=gpu-process --enable-gpu-rasterization --string-annotations --crashpad-handler-pid=32336 --enable-crash-reporter=,built on Debi

When chromium runs, a call to chromium kills the executable chromium (The Appname for chromium is chromium, the excutable is chromium too)

It's different with ungoogled chromium because the Appname is ungoogled and the executable is chrome
With Firefox, the Appname is firefox and the executable is firefox-bin

Yes, but Scarthgap has the same /usr/bin/chromium script, with that same line 99, and there is no problem. Starting chromium in another desktop does not kill the original.

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:03 am

Caramel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:36 am

...

When chromium runs, a call to chromium kills the executable chromium (The Appname for chromium is chromium, the excutable is chromium too)

It's different with ungoogled chromium because the Appname is ungoogled and the executable is chrome
With Firefox, the Appname is firefox and the executable is firefox-bin

Yes, but Scarthgap has the same /usr/bin/chromium script, with that same line 99, and there is no problem. Starting chromium in another desktop does not kill the original.

In Scarthgap the executable is chromium-bin, in Daedalus it's chromium

See the directory /usr/lib/chromium in each version

BarryK wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:00 am

UExtract will be in the next release of Easy Scarthgap and Daedalus, see blog announcement:

https://bkhome.org/news/202411/uextract ... actor.html

Thank you so much @BarryK for integrating it !!!
+ Packit !

Thanks a lot. Testing