Slow forum access times....anyone but me?

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Re: Slow forum access times....anyone but me?

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The forum is pretty slow to react at the moment, for me. Takes maybe 20 seconds, as opposed to the more typical 1 or 2 seconds.

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very slow indeed, takes about 15 sec... :oops:

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Very slow here as well - wasn't sure another problem report would be helpful........but.......

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Re: Slow forum access times....anyone but me?

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Did a speed test of https://forum.puppylinux.com

Used this to run the test:
https://tools.pingdom.com/

It reports a lot of information about what it finds and sees.

These are the ones it reported as grade F with zero as a score:

Grade--->Suggestion

F0...........Make fewer HTTP requests
Decreasing the number of components on a page reduces the number of HTTP requests required to render the page, resulting in faster page loads. Some ways to reduce the
number of components include: combine files, combine multiple scripts into one script, combine multiple CSS files into one style sheet, and use CSS Sprites and image maps.

F0...........Use cookie-free domains
When the browser requests a static image and sends cookies with the request, the server ignores the cookies. These cookies are unnecessary network traffic. To workaround
this problem, make sure that static components are requested with cookie-free requests by creating a subdomain and hosting them there.

F0...........Add Expires headers
Web pages are becoming increasingly complex with more scripts, style sheets, images, and Flash on them. A first-time visit to a page may require several HTTP requests to load
all the components. By using Expires headers these components become cacheable, which avoids unnecessary HTTP requests on subsequent page views. Expires headers are
most often associated with images, but they can and should be used on all page components including scripts, style sheets, and Flash.
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A test run on https://distrowatch.com showed all of these as grade A score 100. (A100)

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Maybe you can run this test and see the complete report.
See something needed, to correct in the forum operation.
Most of the information, is showing stuff, I know nothing about.

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Re: Slow forum access times....anyone but me?

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We are catching and denying access to bots coming from an entire range if IP's and ports starting with 47.76.x.x:x

From the error log:[

Code: Select all

[Fri Feb 28 19:10:46.314127 2025] [access_compat:error] [pid 251069:tid 23229216282368] [client 47.76.209.138:42529] AH01797: client denied by server configuration:
 

There are hundreds of these in the system's error log. Though blocked, the bot still hammers at the door enough to be slowing us down significantly.

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Perhaps it's time for "scheduled maintenance" on the Forum? What I mean is take it offline for oh, maybe 4 to 6 hours. In it's place
just have a webpage that informs the bots and regular users the site is temporarily undergoing routine maintenance and to check
back later. Then, part of the maintenance would be to add to the list of blocked IP Addresses...I still say RIPE is our number one
offender. Over 3/4 of the whois data I've checked have traced back to RIPE.

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I am considering it.....right now I am on the line with tech support at the host provider to look into it.......

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Did not find out more than we already know.....but I paid the yearly rent just now and added a security feature because they gave me a good deal on adding it to the services we already have. Which adds one more feature to the overall security and DDoS attack prevention and mitigation on top of all those things I have setup and configured. Price remains the same for the year's rent and add on services to about $420 for all of it. Donations cover almost all of it.

The tech's at the host server providers gave us complements on our web sites design overall and the general configurations I made. They said it was all very nice.

I will continue to track down the villains slowing us down and combat them.

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Hope it will go better but....

Error "too many request" when visiting this forum page for first time...

I tryed to upload an image, but It doesn't work (57Kb)

Fustrating.

https://imgur.com/a/gEBT16L

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Wiz57 wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 4:29 pm

Perhaps it's time for "scheduled maintenance" on the Forum? What I mean is take it offline for oh, maybe 4 to 6 hours.

I wonder if the whole forum could be made "password entry only" for those 4-6 hours - rather than totally offline?
I imagine that would keep the bots out (although I guess they would still be knockin' at the door...)

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rockedge wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 5:39 pm

Did not find out more than we already know.....but I paid the yearly rent just now and added a security feature because they gave me a good deal on adding it to the services we already have. Which adds one more feature to the overall security and DDoS attack prevention and mitigation on top of all those things I have setup and configured. Price remains the same for the year's rent and add on services to about $420 for all of it. Donations cover almost all of it.

The tech's at the host server providers gave us complements on our web sites design overall and the general configurations I made. They said it was all very nice.

I will continue to track down the villains slowing us down and combat them.

villians and maybe some gremlins?

I have been able to access most pages albiet slowly, but I cannot access viewtopic.php?t=13939

been trying for an hour or so and get

This page isn’t working
forum.puppylinux.com is currently unable to handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 500

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I fixed it.......cache flushed and cleared

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What about trying password/login only access for a period of time per @greengeek (no match found?) suggestion?

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Poor Puppy Forum... :oops:

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rockedge wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:57 pm

I fixed it.......cache flushed and cleared

At this time the forum is back to a good fast speed! :thumbup: :) :thumbup2:

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@rockedge - Whatever you have done in the last couple of hours seems to have banished the gremlins.
Back to rocket speed here downunder... (in the arse-cheeks of the western world)

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Back to normal speed for me. Response time nearly instantaneous. :thumbup2:

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For rockedge!
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rockedge you are the G.O.A.T. (Greatest of All Time).

All good at this end.

Thank you for your perseverance, well done you.

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just about to make a further donation to thank you for everything but if I click on donate

Not Found

The requested URL was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

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Speed is fine for me too ! Just one small issue, the auto-fill for [mention] doesn't work anymore.

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Rockedge :-

I'll echo Fred's point, mate. Aside from that.....ya ROCK, bro! Well done. :thumbup: :thumbup: :D

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rockedge wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:57 pm

I fixed it.......cache flushed and cleared

Page speed insights 02/March/25 /To compare with previous post where errors where everytime.... viewtopic.php?p=143752#p143752

Cheers and good work (can you share your final solution...if possible?)

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pp4mnklinux wrote: Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:46 pm

I think puppylinux must be very stressed about it.
PuppyLinux is not a top distribution with many followers or users. It is hard to attract new users, and if, when they do arrive, they land on a page that takes too long to load, they will simply forget about their interest in the distro.

Actually - I think the PuppyLinux forum is awash with innovative stuff that is of great interest to the AI bots and LLM crawlers that are trying their best to emulate human creativity.

Newbies arriving here have to compete with bots.

Not sure how this can be beaten - but I think the bandwidth load created by LLMs that are programming themselves by scoping human forums is a real problem...

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Yes forum back to normal for me too here in UK. The problem with the auto fill for "mention" mentioned above was also there yesterday before the forum was fixed and instead was running very slowly. I wonder if others noticed this.

Ken.

Edit: When I put the word "mention" in square brackets an "at" symbol appeared the text after it appeared in red so I changed the square brackets to inverted commas.

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Yeah, there is a problem with mentions and attachments

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@rockedge Thank you. I can use the forum now. What did you have to do to fix it?

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Keep on messing with simple mentions, the slow forum is the cause of it not working properly. With some experimentation I found out it is working just very slowly which is almost not working in my book. Be patient please, working on it.

What did you have to do to fix it?

A lot of research and then work on the various htaccess files to add firewalls, deny and ban IP ranges and complex URL rewrite rules......to stage blocks and counter-attacks. Had to look for patterns in the logs for IP's hammering away and design rules to block them completely.

Seems to be working but I made an error earlier forgetting to include the all important URL rewrite rules for phpBB...got that straightened out now....

I look like a mad scientist just before the lightning hits the electrodes.

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Cheers and good work (can you share your final solution...if possible?)

It looks like this for 300 lines and then another 50 lines or so for the rewrite rules for the forum sites.

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