Fossa64-bas - CLOSED

[amethyst]

Since there are no additional jwm themes included, try this small utility to create your own: https://forum.puppylinux.com/download/file.php?id=3435
I also made a pet package for additional JWM themes, find attached. Strongly suggest you download and install radky's JWMDesk Manager for customization of JWM.

[greengeek]

get rid of isomaster and use something like peasydisk instead.

Have you had problems with isomaster? And does peasydisk address these?
Cheers!

[greengeek]

@ozsouth
Quick question - your v6 release talks about updaters and root vs spot:

I do not want auto updating, but I do like the Palemoon downloads going into Spot (originally I didnt like this but now I think it's a good idea)

Is v6 the right one for me??

Cheers!

[ozsouth]

@greengeek - v6 onwards is better for all. Updating is optional, but if you choose it, it won't trash root settings for those running as root. It's default is to run as spot.

[amethyst]

get rid of isomaster and use something like peasydisk instead.

Have you had problems with isomaster? And does peasydisk address these?
Cheers!

No problem with isomaster but peasydisk can do more with the utilities already included in the distribution (it's just a script with a GUI for the available utilities as far as I know). Isomaster is superfluous. We have so many great little scripts in Puppyland which give great functionality to our computing with almost nothingness in terms of size.

[ozsouth]

v7 - Issues addressed:

Evince replaces gpdf, as although all printing apps work in standard fossa64-bas-7 when cupsgsij .pet added, when I add Firefox or Chrome, can't print directly. Workaround for those apps is print to pdf (if running as spot, save to /home/spot), open in evince & print.
* Update 27/7/23 - new apulse-gtk3 .pet in 1st post fixes this. *

The Fossa64-bas version of Isomaster is broken - due to boot.catalog problem, isos made won't make bootable CDs on some systems, and boot slowly with errors on others. The workaround (thanks to @greengeek ) is to use pCompress.

pCompress iso creation method:
1. Make new folder with desired new iso name, mount current iso & copy iso contents into new folder & unmount current iso.
2. Then can edit sfs's (be careful - major edits can cause overall failure!) by moving one (maybe ydrv, which has adjustments/other settings) into an empty folder, then in terminal, cd into that folder & run updatesfsl & make small edits in utmp subfolder, then when done click OK button. Delete old sfs & rename resultant mynew.sfs to original sfs name & move into iso folder. Can repeat step 2 with other sfs's.
3. Then in ROX-Filer, rightclick on new iso folder & choose pCompress, then choose iso & create (& ok).

[amethyst]

How do I activate GTK-theming? I want to add some gtk-themes.

[amethyst]

I've removed isomaster (replaced by peasydisk) and TED (I've installed the Abiword/Gnumeric package) from the ydrv. Added quite a lot of JWM themes and icon themes which added about 2MB to my save file. Worth it, I think. Also changed to a nice wallpaper pic (also just a few Kb's so also worth it).

[ozsouth]

@amethyst - excellent - I hope folk can customise to suit. Re-gtk, I confess, I don't know. v6p just might be it for me.

[amethyst]

@amethyst - excellent - I hope folk can customise to suit. Re-gtk, I confess, I don't know. v6p just might be it for me.

I'll make a post in Users for the GTK thing. Someone might know.

[ozsouth]

V7 released. See first post.

[greengeek]

GIMP portable from Mikewalsh appears to be working in FBas. It is big - but hey it works.
See here:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 085#p94085

[amethyst]

A few extra icon themes. Extract and place in /usr/local/lib/X11/themes.

[amethyst]

Okay, I think I now have my little system set up with the necessary must have (essential) things in my view:
base sfs (98MB) and ydrv (52MB) max xz compression. Kernel and browser additional of course.
The following are included in the said ydrv: small gtk3 package, ffmpeg, gnome-mplayer and Abiword/Gnumeric. The ffmpeg package quite large unfortunately but necessary otherwise I can't play my internet streams (ydrv would have been much smaller otherwise).
I have a 64MB sized save file and installed a few must have (for me) pets. ie: Packit. UExtract, JWMDesk, mtPaint, MultiRename, Edit initrd.gz, nicOS Utility Suite, nicOS PowerTimeout, nicOS Package Extractor, nicOS Package Remover, PeasyDisc. Added a few additional JWM themes and Icon themes. The latter pet installs are mostly very small script applications so takes up a MB or two so well worth the addition for added functionality. Still have quite a bit of space left in the save file. Removed isomaster and TED (superfluous) from the system. We can still make a very functional relatively small Puppy afterall. Nice little 64-bit backup system for my Bionic32 workhorse.

[amethyst]

Made a pet package for pEqualizer specifically for this Fossa Basic. Should work nicely with Gnome MPlayer and so on. Note - start pEqualizer first before running your media player.
Edit: Unfortunately I have to pull this because it does not seem to work correctly with this Basic Fossapup (something amiss with alsa I think). I did make a version for the official Fossapup9.5 which does work properly (but will not work with this distribution). https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... 498#p91498

[mikewalsh]

@amethyst :-

Is that ffmpeg one of the 'statics' from John van Sickle, Nic? I know they're a hell of a size, but I've been using 'em for a few years - ever since Fred brought them to the community's attention - and for me, they just 'work'. Everywhere.

(Even sym-linked in as a replacement for Tahrpup's ridiculous avconv..!)

Mike.

[amethyst]

@amethyst :-

Is that ffmpeg one of the 'statics' from John van Sickle, Nic? I know they're a hell of a size, but I've been using 'em for a few years - ever since Fred brought them to the community's attention - and for me, they just 'work'. Everywhere.

(Even sym-linked in as a replacement for Tahrpup's ridiculous avconv..!)

Mike.

Don't know, just used the pet that was offered in this thread.

[ozsouth]

@mikewalsh - that ffmpeg comes from original fossapup's adrv, like most of the .pets I made. Only major ones that didn't are gnome-mplayer (from ScPup64) & v1's Palemoon (your portable). Even the security updates I made were compiled in fossa64-bas. Doing it that way saved me from dependency issues.

[amethyst]

Pdisk (Partition Manager). Pet attached. Can be substitute for GParted.

[amethyst]

In Menu > Setup > Screen/Graphics Wizard, the Multi Monitor option does not work. This is because lxrandr has been removed. Attached the required file (remove the fake .gz extension). Place the file in /usr/bin. As a matter of interest: I see there is a spelling error in Xorg Video Wizard. One of the option headings is "Sreensaver" should be Screensaver of course (good lad I am, I fixed it for you attached new file, place it in /usr/sbin, remove fake extension).
The Picom Compositor function is also not working but I didn't look into that (of no interest to me).

[ozsouth]

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[oui]

How to add midori 10.0.2 (the same as in Daedalus Pup) in Fossapup?

[ozsouth]

@oui - I've found a .deb for Midori 10.0.2 beta here: https://astian.org/wp-content/uploads/m ... beta-2.deb

Needs updated gtk3 from here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/bu4jv6ns ... l.pet/file

Other missing libs are in .pet attached below. So Midori as a .pet with extras needed would be about 65mb.

This seems to run a fair amount of content WITHOUT ffmpeg. (Even a few parts of my streaming services).
Does have a lot of error messages behind the scenes.

TO RUN THIS, once deb & 2 pets installed, run (in a terminal): run-as-spot midori-ng
OR edit /usr/share/applications/midori-ng.desktop , changing the exec line to:
Exec=run-as-spot /opt/'Midori Next Generation'/midori-ng
(note: single quotes only). Then in terminal, run: fixmenus && jwm -reload
Then the icon in Utilities menu will work.
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[amethyst]

Got it to run now like I run all my other Puppys. Merged the contents of the base and my ydrv into a new base sfs (145MB). Gone with the save file and saving my configs and very small installs like scripts and so on to a new adrv (12MB). Made the browser a ydrv. Running Firefox as root (I had to do a few changes with my older base version). Changes to desktop, etc. are now also captured correctly to my adrv. I'll probably make an alternative initrd to invoke a lot of additional drives (just for fun, I don't actually use them).

[ozsouth]

@amethyst - that's great! I'm hoping that now the base is about right, lots of people will be able to make their own custom versions, over a range of sizes.

[amethyst]

@amethyst - that's great! I'm hoping that now the base is about right, lots of people will be able to make their own custom versions, over a range of sizes.

I worked from the V5 base so probably had a bit more to do than someone who downloaded the latest version. The only thing I still want to add is a Personal Organizer (tasks, to do) but I'm looking for something extremely small and not OSMO. This has been a nice and useful addition to the Puppy world. BTW - the distribution runs fast on my old machine. Congratulations.

[amethyst]

@ozsouth
I've noticed that my laptop backlight dims a bit shortly after startup, is this normal? Last time I've seen this on my machine was with an old Precise era kernel. Using kernel 5.15 but same happens when using Tahr64's kernel with this distribution. I am also unable to change the graphics driver from modesetting to intel.

[ozsouth]

@amethyst - Basic has a brightness setter - sets 50%. Command line is: setblt (values 1-9 for 10 - 90%). Default is setblt 5 , which you get by just running setblt without a number. Is launched in /etc/init.d . You can go full brightness by running killall setblt or removing /etc/init.d entry. Re-intel - I thought i915 was there, but due to the absence of OpenGL, may not be available. On that note, I can't run anydesk without OpenGL & haven't succeeded in installing that. OpenGL is in the original fossapup adrv (somewhere) & may be huge.

[amethyst]

@amethyst - Basic has a brightness setter - sets 50%. Command line is: setblt (values 1-9 for 10 - 90%). Default is setblt 5 , which you get by just running setblt without a number. Is launched in /etc/init.d . You can go full brightness by running killall setblt or removing /etc/init.d entry. Re-intel - I thought i915 was there, but due to the absence of OpenGL, may not be available. On that note, I can't run anydesk without OpenGL & haven't succeeded in installing that. OpenGL is in the original fossapup adrv (somewhere) & may be huge.

Thanks, I set the value to 7 in /usr/local/bin/setblt. I did up the gamma calibration but changing that may distort the colours slightly. Yes, no glxgears for 3d rendering but can't see why this will influence the setting of the driver to intel. Have to check if i915 is there and how to enable it.

[amethyst]

Just a note - I have had problems with playing DRM content on some sites with the Firefox included as an adrv (some widvine plugin problem it seems). Reverted to using mikewalsh's portable which works fine.