Another Jammy64pup

[jrb]

I'm thinking that I might just keep trying kernels, you've got lots to choose from, and see what happens.

First one of @ozsouth's I tried, huge-6.2.9-ubun64oz-ao-PRE.tar.bz2 worked with no hesitation whatsoever. Very fast booting. I had to run it through my zdrv_cp2deb script first and get the filesystem compatible but then it was good to go and everything seems to be working just fine. If anyone needs help with setting up this kernel for Jammy64pup let me know.

Cheers, J

[Marv]

That one of @ozsouths' works fine here also, as does his usrmerge 6.1.23. I'm currently running the 6.1.23 for no particular reason.

[ozsouth]

I made an Anydesk (remote desktop access) .pet (see link) & an Xpat2 (card games) .pet - see attached. (For this usrmerge pup only). Use at own risk.

Anydesk 6.1.1 - https://www.mediafire.com/file/yfjet6q9 ... m.pet/file

[ozsouth]

Weird - when trying to browse to the following sites, I get 'unable to connect error'.
Different browsers (firefox, chrome, palemoon) & timezone settings make no difference.
Turning off firewall also has no effect. Is an issue in (at least) E1 & D3.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au

https://www.theaustralian.com.au

I had issues with the latter in the past, but timezone was the answer - not here.

[Jasper]

@ozsouth

I use this site to check to see if websites are experiencing difficulties, therefore not browser specific

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/

[ozsouth]

@Jasper - tried that site - shows both as down - but I can access them via firefox in s15pup64. Weirder.

[Marv]

@ozsouth No firefox here but here's a quick test on three chromium portables, Brave, Slimjet, and un-googled chromium tested in another jammypup64, a clean ydrv'd non-savefile install of the new Bookworm Pup64 (running beautifully except for a couple of multimedia hiccups), LxPupSc64, and F96-CE_4, all current versions of browsers and OS. Firewall on or off makes no difference. Run sequentially on the same Fujitsu S761 laptop. Results on your two sites are:

LxPupSc64: No problems at all connecting to either site in any of the three browsers.
F96-CE: No problems at all connecting to either site in any of the three browsers.
another jammypup64: Connection refused in all three.
Bookworm: Connection once in brave to https://www.heraldsun.com.au/, refused after that and in all other browsers. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ refused in all three browsers.

Yep, Weirder.

Add: Incognito/private mode makes no difference in Brave or Slimjet and all connections are also fine in the current VoidPup64 as well, posting from that now.

[dimkr]

Try to disable IPv6 (echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6). If a domain can be resolved to both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses, your OS supports both, but the web server listens only on the IPv4 address, the connection will be refused when your browser attempts IPv6. This can also happen if your ISP does weird stuff instead of providing customers with IPv6 support. And this won't happen 100%, because there's a race condition between the DNS lookups used to get the two addresses - if broken IPv6 support on either side (your ISP, your gateway) or the server side (a domain with an IPv6 address but a web server that only accepts IPv4 connections), the browser will probably try both in parallel and connect to the first address it resolves.

EDIT: I have IP6 connectivity here and from what I see, both domains time out when I'm trying to reach port 443 (HTTPS) over IPv4, and they don't resolve to IPv6 at all. The problem is not your Puppy.

[Marv]

@dimkr Thanks, I did have ipv6 disabled by kernel command line in LxPupSc64, VoidPup64, and F96-CE_4 but not in jammypup64 or Bookworm Pup64 so I played with that but indeed that wasn't it.

@ozsouth I think I've got it. In the 'older' pups the /etc/hosts file isn't set up by default to do ad blocking. In jammypup64 and Bookworm Pup64 it is and tags.news.com.au is in it. Pull that line out and have a go at those sites. No exhaustive tests but that seems to do it here.

[ozsouth]

Thanks guys! @Marv - I confirm the adblocker lines in /etc/hosts are the cause. I never used that in the past myself, so didn't think to look there. Great pickup!

Jammypup just zoomed into my top 2 Pups (with s15pup64).

[ozsouth]

Here's some more .pets, tested in version E1 (use at own risk):

Isomaster (for editing iso files - see attached below - menu entry in Utility)

Flashgames (projector & 6 games, in apps folder - menu entry in Fun) here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/yr1lf06l ... j.pet/file

Older scanner driver (xsane997) here (menu entry in Graphic): https://www.mediafire.com/file/xq7itdr9 ... j.pet/file
NOTES: May drive newer devices if official scanner software installed (my Brother HLL-2395DW needed .debs from their website).
I tried this version as ppm version (xsane999) had 25 dependency files & who knows if those had others.

[mikewalsh]

Well, I think I'll have a look at this over the next few days. Guys, where are these "delta" files hiding? Original spec said page 1, post 2.....but all I can see are a bunch of terminal readouts and some stuff about libdvd and css....

I might as well try it in up-to-date, current format!

Mike.

[Marv]

@mikewalsh The E1 iso in post 1 is the most recent version. At some point in the development deltas were dropped as being confusing. I've been running E1 albeit customized with PCManFM, my symlinks and JWM configuration, and synaptics drivers for touchpad in a ydrv for some time now and other than adjusting for my quirks and helping troubleshoot an ad-blocker issue for ozsouth I can't point to any issues. Have a go with E1.

OOTB it comes with an overlayfs only kernel but will run happily either with overlayfs or AUFS file systems with any of the 'usrmerge' recent kernels that support AUFS and ovelayfs (like @ozsouths' 6.1.23). Bear in mind that the savefile structure is different for the two FS.

I'm currently running it overlayfs as intended with peebees 6.3.0 kernel with the structure adjusted for usrmerge by @jrbs' script zdrv_cp2deb in the boot directory and punionfs=overlay in the boot stanza. jrb is running ozsouths 6.2.9, see here: viewtopic.php?p=87366#p87366.

FWIW, Bookworm Pup64 runs swimmingly with the same packaging. A couple of multimedia hiccups there that will get ironed out with the next release but it shows @radkys' polish. jammypup64 is more of a 'core' system, while Bookworm is quite full bodied. I like both for different reasons.

an inveterate tinker

[mikewalsh]

@Marv :-

'Kay, Marv.....thanks for the 'heads-up', AND the 'explainer' about the kernels. I'll take a look later on....

Mike.

[ozsouth]

@mikewalsh - I'm running E1 using my 6.1.23 usrmerge kernel (so that I had the sources & headers) with aufs, as I've (so far) not edited the initrd.gz to allow extra drvs & can use sfs_load. I did put punionfs=aufs in the boot stanza so I don't forget which I'm using. I also use a ydrv with my settings. Note your fdrv can't be from a non-usrmerge puppy & some .pets won't work.
For any who don't understand usrmerge, /bin /lib /lib32 /sbin are symlinks to /usr/bin /usr/lib /usr/lib32 /usr/sbin , respectively. This is the newer Debian/Ubuntu protocol, allowing package compatibilty going forward.

[ozsouth]

I went to change the password & got pam error 26. I discovered the file 'common-password' is missing from /etc/pam.d .
Attached below is one I found on the net. Must remove .fake.txt . Use at own risk.

[ozsouth]

I made a .pet for Masterpdf4 pdf editor. Use at own risk. See: https://www.mediafire.com/file/son4nnvt ... j.pet/file

[ozsouth]

I made a Libreoffice 6.4.7.2 us .pet - see: viewtopic.php?p=90146#p90146

By making .pets, I don't need to edit initrd.gz, so as to allow extra drvs. I can use ydrv for my settings, with adrv & bdrv for sources & devx under Overlayfs. If using Aufs, can still load sfs's as desired.

[Jasper]

Small script to change your DNS at startup.

It uses

https://www.dns0.eu/

A free, sovereign and GDPR-compliant recursive DNS resolver with a strong focus on security to protect the citizens and organizations of the European Union.

Code: Select all

#!/bin/sh

echo "nameserver 193.110.81.0" > /etc/resolv.conf
echo "nameserver 185.253.5.0" >> /etc/resolv.conf
echo "nameserver 193.110.81.0
nameserver 185.253.5.0" > /etc/resolv.conf.head

nslookup google.com > /tmp/dnssetandcheck
DNSNEW=$(cat /tmp/dnssetandcheck)

gxmessage "$DNSNEW"

Copy the text to Geany and save it as a script and save it as SetDNS.sh.

Right click to allow it to be executable and finally put it in your directory

/root/Startup

[Jasper]

One thing that I liked with FP95 was the CPU Frequency Scaling application, that allowed me to lower my cpu to powersave/on-demand

I was messing around with cpu scaling on-demand earlier and cannot remember if I actually set the parameters or if it has done this by itself.

The cpu goes down to 800Mhz when it is idle.

On FP95 there was a GUI available.

The location of the script

Anyone know what this application is named, so I can look it up in the PPM?

[Marv]

One thing that I liked with FP95 was the CPU Frequency Scaling application, that allowed me to lower my cpu to powersave/on-demand

I was messing around with cpu scaling on-demand earlier and cannot remember if I actually set the parameters or if it has done this by itself.

The cpu goes down to 800Mhz when it is idle.

On FP95 there was a GUI available.

The location of the script

Anyone know what this application is named, so I can look it up in the PPM?

Hi Jasper, Nice to see someone running another jammy again. The application is wcpufreq. It's a script so easily modified. I haven't run another jammypup is a while so I had to look and see what I did there. Ah, I'm all intel and wcpufreq didn't do what I wanted there IIRC, so in /etc/init.d I set start_cpu_freq to non-executable and put a an executable script start_intel_pstate_schedutil in there with these contents:

Code: Select all

#!/bin/ash

modprobe cpufreq_powersave
for CPUNUM in `ls -1 /sys/devices/system/cpu/ | grep 'cpu[0-9]' | tr '\n' ' '`
 do
  echo schedutil >/sys/devices/system/cpu/$CPUNUM/cpufreq/scaling_governor
 done

I have modified wcpufreq in the past but it's a moving target so the above was simpler for me.

[Jasper]

@Marv

Thanks for the tip!! .......... all Intel here too

Hope I have got this right?

[Jasper]

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[Marv]

I had to run jammy again to see exactly why I stopped using it. The stumbling block for me was getting LXDE to run cleanly, drives-on-desktop and all. My work when I stopped had a nice clean jwm desktop and all my workarounds to integrate PCManFM etc. Portables all work and it's fast as a scalded hog but the trash and some other workarounds aren't as good as the real thing, either in a pure ROX or in a good LXDE'd install. They are ok for me but not for other users I support.

My Bookworm 64 10.0.4.0 install has (thanks @peebee) LXDE running well so I've been using it as my 'modern millie' of late.

[Jasper]

@Marv

The script seems to be working

I haven't messed around with the desktop WM, it takes so long to get everything just as you want it.

I do like peebee's LXPupSC and do have that working on another PC. TBH I just leave the desktop environments as they are, just in case I break something

[Jasper]

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[Jasper]

@Marv

Small binary i7z and and an updated library cpuid (...... always end up typing cupid in error )

Just to check the script is working

[user1234]

Hello dear @Jasper!

It seems that you have been working on JammyPup. But, I don't think this work is going into the Woof-CE as I see the last change in Jammy in Woof-CE was made by me 2 months ago.

As you are already doing a lot of work, why not add it to Woof-CE as well

If you think any application needs to be added (or removed), or some configuration needs to be changed from the original ISO, can you please directly make the changes to the Woof-CE? Or, in case you are not able to do so, you can also suggest the changes you want to bring in Jammy on this forum as well (but please tag me if you post any suggestions; this will give me a notification and I'll make the changes ).

[Jasper]

@user1234

I do not know how to use Woof-CE (.......... I am aware their are tutorials available ).

If you want to add any of these packages please do so

Most of these are updates to the original applications and are not available in the official PPM for Jammy as they are newer.

I guess that means they do come with a risk to the end user; as with all software there are always revisions.

Let me know your thoughts?

[user1234]

I do not know how to use Woof-CE (.......... I am aware their are tutorials available ).

If you want to add any of these packages please do so

No need to worry about that... Woof-CE overwhelmed me as well at first. Nevertheless, I can add the applications to Woof-CE for you. But I have not taken a look at all the apps you have suggested on this topic (I have been away from Puppy for quite a long time; even now I am using Kubuntu). So, please if you have any suggestions, feel free to share.

Most of these are updates to the original applications and are not available in the official PPM for Jammy as they are newer.

I guess that means they do come with a risk to the end user; as with all software there are always revisions.

Let me know your thoughts?

Jammy64 uses apt, so there is no need for any new manual updates to Ubuntu softwares as they will be handled by apt. But yes, we can do update the non-ubuntu-official apps (meaning they are not in official Ubuntu PPAs).

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BTW, I don't think this topic has the latest Jammy64 build. If you require, I can also build and upload a Jammy64 on GitHub which you can easily download. My main intention here was to ask you if any new things had to be added to Jammy (I am too new to Puppy: F-96 is the only Puppy that has been released after I started using Puppy; so do not know much about what all goes into a new Puppy ).