Usability of VanillaDPup with older hardware.....(developer discussion)

[dimkr]

Nowadays woof-CE can build a dpup with a GPU-accelerated Wayland desktop, without systemd, with Bluetooth support via PipeWire, without any legacy GTK+ 2 applications, with a working package manager (+ access to the largest package repos in existence), with an extremely Debian-compatible kernel, and with lower RAM and CPU consumption compared to what you'd find on other distros with Xfce.

My Thinkpad X220 can run pretty much any distro, even with a heavy DE, but the difference in resource consumption, battery life and utilization of available processing power (like the GPU) compared to Puppy is unmistakable.

woof-CE is not perfect, but it can still build a capable, lightweight distro. Multi-user support? It's doable; those who think woof-CE hasn't evolved are living in the past.

[Clarity]

Hi @dimkr

... a dpup with a GPU-accelerated Wayland desktop, without systemd, with Bluetooth support via PipeWire, without any legacy GTK+ 2 applications, with a working package manager (+ access to the largest package repos in existence), with an extremely Debian-compatible kernel, and with lower RAM and CPU consumption ...

Is this ISO available and linked somewhere? I be one to test, report, and use such.

Sure there are others too.

[wiak]

Nowadays woof-CE can build a dpup with a GPU-accelerated Wayland desktop, without systemd, with Bluetooth support via PipeWire, without any legacy GTK+ 2 applications, with a working package manager (+ access to the largest package repos in existence), with an extremely Debian-compatible kernel, and with lower RAM and CPU consumption compared to what you'd find on other distros with Xfce.

Sounds interesting. Where is the download for this distro?

Of course a tiny amount of less RAM/CPU resource usage via a few small cache-saving tricks or whatever won't be important (and preferable to stick to what upstream Linux kernel guys consider best I feel - since I trust their kernel-system-level tuning far more than anyone on this forum), but if half or three times less, then we are talking! Certainly woof-CE scripts have been hacked and modified for years so certainly hasn't stood still, and of course I noticed many additions such as Wayland support.

[dimkr]

Is this ISO available and linked somewhere? I be one to test, report, and use such.

Sounds interesting. Where is the download for this distro?

At the bottom of https://vanilla-dpup.github.io/.

preferable to stick to what upstream Linux kernel guys consider best I feel

I agree, hence https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/3431.

[wiak]

with an extremely Debian-compatible kernel, and with lower RAM and CPU consumption compared to what you'd find on other distros with Xfce

Sorry, Clarity may have been seeking different iso - I was interested in one that had Xfce so I could compare RAM/CPU consumption with other such Xfce-desktop-based distros, being hooked on Xfce for now myself.

[greengeek]

being hooked on Xfce for now myself.

How easy is it with xfce to move the drive icons to a row along the bottom (instead of up the left hand side where they interfere with windows)?
I like jwm.

[wiak]

being hooked on Xfce for now myself.

How easy is it with xfce to move the drive icons to a row along the bottom (instead of up the left hand side where they interfere with windows)?
I like jwm.

Actually I don't know if KLV-Airedale arrangement of drive icons has anything to do with Xfce - I doubt it. I haven't checked what rockedge is using to do that. Must be easy to change I'd expect.

[dimkr]

I was interested in one that had Xfce

The usual recipe (apt update; apt install -y xfce4; echo xfce4-session > /etc/windowmanager; restartwm) should work just fine, if you're willing to try.

[wiak]

I was interested in one that had Xfce

The usual recipe (apt update; apt install -y xfce4; echo xfce4-session > /etc/windowmanager; restartwm) should work just fine, if you're willing to try.

indeed, will do

[wiak]

I was interested in one that had Xfce

The usual recipe (apt update; apt install -y xfce4; echo xfce4-session > /etc/windowmanager; restartwm) should work just fine, if you're willing to try.

Should move to vdpup thread but just a quick comment that above basically worked with vupup for me, but not vdpup (xfce4 appeared but no panel and something wrong - no time to check further). Also RAM usage seemed high - I tried pfix=nocopy - is that correct way to stop loading sfs files into RAM? - it didn't seem to do anything on either vupup or vdpup

[mikewalsh]

Split off from:-

"Bye-bye, Inspiron 1100.....hello, Latitude D630!"

.....so as not to lose useful discussion material in the middle of an unrelated thread. This happens TOO often with us!

Mike.