HTML editors -- bluegriffon, kompozer and others

[mikeslr]

Just link to the discussions here, viewtopic.php?p=42401#p42401. On that thread you'll find links to 32 and 64bit versions of bluegriffon and kompozer.

[mikeslr]

Just in case you didn't know, an html editor is built into every Seamonkey.

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What I just discovered is that although it has to be started by opening Seamonkey and choosing Menu>Window>Composer, it appears to continue to function as a 'Stand-alone' after closing Seamonkey.
Mozilla stopped development of the true 'Stand-alone' Kompozer years ago. And it was only a 32-bit application. I have no reason to believe that Kompozer offers any advantage over Seamonkey's Composer module; and there are now 64-bit versions of Seamonkey.

[mikeslr]

Perhaps the reason mozilla has not recently worked on Kompozer is that it has directed its energies into Firefox Developer Edition. 64-bit only, it is available from here, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/.

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The cited webpage has links to various tools and discussion about them.
To obtain, just click the download link, download the tar.gz, UExtract it and move the resulting folder to where ever you want.

[To start Firefox Developer, just file-browse to and click the firefox binary. However, this being firefox and we being Puppy I suggest you read this, viewtopic.php?p=42470#p42470, regarding being able to render sound].

Examination of Addons relating to "developer" reveals that there are currently only 2025. I don't know if all of these might not be usable in a 'Regular' firefox. But while playing with its settings there was at least one notice that it would depend upon/respond to? what the extensions were. And the GUI also appears to provide quick access to Web-Developer Tools.

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907 addons related to html. Among those was Html Validator, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... validator/ "a Mozilla extension that adds HTML validation inside Firefox, Mozilla. The number of errors of a HTML page is seen on the form of an icon."

The following may also provide useful information, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools

I'll leave further discussion of Firefox-Developer-Edition and its Add-ons to those who actually know what they are doing. Just wanted you to know that it exists.

[mikeslr]

Amaya is an 'old' 32-bit web editor that is used for creating and updating documents directly on websites. It integrates a seamless browsing system that is packed with the features of editing and remote access. Linux and XP versions are available from here, https://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html
The XP version runs under Wine.

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The 'deb' version did not run. ListDD revealed that the following were missing:
libssl.so.0.9.8 => not found
libcrypto.so.0.9.8 => not found
libssl.so.0.9.8 (OPENSSL_0.9.8) => not found
libcrypto.so.0.9.8 (OPENSSL_0.9.8) => not found
I think that can be fixed by creating symbolic link with the missing names to the corresponding current versions of those libraries. Something to explore when I have a chance.
Edit: Installed the deb into Xenialpup32 and Amaya ran OOTB. No symbolic link needed. .
But I like portables so that with and from one 'installation' I can use an application under several. I'll explore 'portablizing' it when I get a chance.

[BarryK]

Just in case you didn't know, an html editor is built into every Seamonkey.
Composer in SeaMonkey.png
What I just discovered is that although it has to be started by opening Seamonkey and choosing Menu>Window>Composer, it appears to continue to function as a 'Stand-alone' after closing Seamonkey.

mike,
SeaMonkey has been in the pups since... well, a very long time... and the individual modules have always been able to be started directly. They are all in the menu. The traditional pups anyway.

Look at /usr/local/bin/mozedit, mozchat, mozmail

For example, to start composer directly:

# seamonkey -edit [optional html file]

[mikeslr]

Thanks, Barry. I've used Seamonkey a lot. But have never used its composer module, or any other html editor. But someone's request for one stimulated my curiosity. So, I've run with it. But, as I wrote earlier in this thread "I'll leave further discussion ... to those who actually know what they are doing. Just wanted you to know that it exists."

[williwaw]

a simple editor is tryit https://sourceforge.net/projects/tryite ... t/download (click download in spite of the message saying its moved)

you can also try tryit online at https://www.w3schools.com/html/

seems to be limited to cut and paste, but there is also a firefox extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... l5-editor/

I don't have firefox, so I have not tried the extension yet myself. if you do please review. hopefully there is something similar that works in the browser and lets you use the browser' s file manager to open and save your work.

has anyone tried a wysiwym editor? what you see is what you mean

[snoring_cat]

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You can easily make a WYSIWYG HTML editor, directly in HTML. In fact, most HTML DOM objects can be instantly made editable by adding the contenteditable attribute. The 14kb HTML page that was used to create the above image is attached to this post as a 6kb gzip file.

[mikeslr]

Barry found the small 64-bit bluegriffon pet (and accompanying nls) on ibiblio. Link to them from here, viewtopic.php?p=61002#p61002

[rockedge]

An older one is Web Page Maker. made during the 32 bit Windows XP era it was a really nice and I eventually got really good using it and was able to mix PHP and HTML coding with it.

I never got it to run well in Puppy Linux and WINE though. So I have VirtualBox XP VM machines running in Puppy that I can natively make a quick page or 2 when needed, mostly for nostalgia

here is a an example....very simple, but I needed a splash page..... https://techrockedge.github.io/

[Grey]

a splash page..... https://techrockedge.github.io/

Speaking of splashes. What's spilling out of the skull? Alkali, acid, the result of poor control of the student by the teacher in the chemistry lesson ?

[rockedge]

@Grey It is a Mexican sugar skull for the Day of the Dead celebration. Each sugar skull represents someone who is presently dead.

This one on the splash page has all of the colors draining away......sugar skulls are very colorful. This one is based on the shape of my skull. I had an x-ray of my head once in full size.....skull looked great.

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[rockedge]

@Grey I am really into the "Psychedelic Era (1967)" artwork...especially rock&roll posters. Do you know of the "Grateful Dead"? I never really liked their music but loved the artwork.

The splash page skull is from an artist is who still makes such artwork.

Psychedelic music example..... LSD.......

[Grey]

This one is based on the shape of my skull. I had an x-ray of my head once in full size.....skull looked great.

Yeah, I see now, Mexico. An interesting idea. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I have never had such an X-ray for a prototype...

[Grey]

Do you know of the "Grateful Dead"? I never really liked their music but loved the artwork.

I've heard about the band. But my favorite band is Sector Gaza.
Here is an example of three albums. A bottle of vodka moonshine and a tattoo on the chest in the form of Lenin's head are present :

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[williwaw]

simple_HTML_editor.png

You can easily make a WYSIWYG HTML editor, directly in HTML. In fact, most HTML DOM objects can be instantly made editable by adding the contenteditable attribute. The 14kb HTML page that was used to create the above image is attached to this post as a 6kb gzip file.

@snoring_cat

been looking for just this recently.
is there a way to save your work when editing in seamonkey besides cut and paste?
I can send to file with button, but file is empty