Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 5:38 am
d-pupp wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:40 pm

2009 Dell dual core 4 GB

If it boots and reaches a graphical desktop on such an old machine despite the lack of X.Org, I guess it's a big success. Anything else is a nice bonus.

LOL
You know it runs really really well on this old PC. Boots to a desktop in 20 seconds from the menu. The browser starts in 3 or 4 seconds even the first time after an upgrade it's only maybe 10 seconds. Everything else opens in 1 or 2 seconds and runs smoothly. No freezing or clinching.
You have done a very good job on making Vanilla dpup work on low resource machines.
Thank you @dimkr

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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a couple of issues while testing the latest build

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- using the graphic tool I have added a further keyboard layout but I cannot figure out how to switch to it, I would prefer to use a terminal command to do so.

- I am accessing localhost on post 631 via web browser to set up my printer, it asks me for a log in, I have tried several credential combinations but all failed.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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darksun wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 11:45 am

- using the graphic tool I have added a further keyboard layout but I cannot figure out how to switch to it, I would prefer to use a terminal command to do so.

Did you try alt+shift?

darksun wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 11:45 am

- I am accessing localhost on post 631 via web browser to set up my printer, it asks me for a log in, I have tried several credential combinations but all failed.

The default is spot and woofwoof.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 11:47 am
darksun wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 11:45 am

- using the graphic tool I have added a further keyboard layout but I cannot figure out how to switch to it, I would prefer to use a terminal command to do so.

Did you try alt+shift?

darksun wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 11:45 am

- I am accessing localhost on post 631 via web browser to set up my printer, it asks me for a log in, I have tried several credential combinations but all failed.

The default is spot and woofwoof.

thank you for the credentials, I did not attempt this combination.

Regarding the combination yes I did try it but I am stuck with the default layout, I does not do anything alt+shift.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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spot@puppypc:~$ cat .xkbrc 
XKB_DEFAULT_LAYOUT=us,it
XKB_DEFAULT_MODEL=pc104
XKB_DEFAULT_OPTIONS=grp:alt_shift_toggle
XKB_DEFAULT_RULES=evdev
XKB_DEFAULT_VARIANT=,winkeys
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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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Changes are applied only after labwc is restarted. Did you restart it or reboot?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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ok now it works.
Could be an idea to put hints of those two settings (credentials to access "Printer Settings" and the method to switch keyboard layout) somewhere of your convenience, could not be?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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I am testing and setting up vanilla dpup 11.0.x to my usual liking and configuration and as I go through it, if you do not mind, I will post here.

If I launch keepassxc (as you know a very popular password manager) an error is returned

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qt.qpa.plugin: Could not find the Qt platform plugin "wayland" in ""
Authorization required, but no authorization protocol specified

qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display :0
qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, xcb.

Aborted

I have looked up online and it appears that some popular software (eg OBS studio, keepassxc , to name a few) need this library to run under wayland: qtwayland5

eg https://stackoverflow.com/questions/699 ... in-wayland

Could it be useful to add it in the .img?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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darksun wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 2:03 pm

Could it be useful to add it in the .img?

It won't happen, the images don't contain Qt at all (neither 5 nor 6) and adding this package would pull Qt as well. It's very big and not used by any preinstalled application.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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Installed vanilladpup-11.0.232-ext4-2gb-uefi.img on a USB stick.

Boots to asking for password.

woofwoof does not work.

Just get error wrong password.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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bigpup wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 3:23 pm

Installed vanilladpup-11.0.232-ext4-2gb-uefi.img on a USB stick.

What tool did you use?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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I wrote the .img (labwc-uefi 11.0.232) to my fastest usb flash drive (stick) using Balena Etcher.

My laptop can´t get to the desktop. Writing "startlabwc" didn't help. Please see the attached photo.

My laptop is Lenovo V15 G4 IRU.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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I post this as it might be hopefully helpful to someone:

to "burn" the .img file to the usb stick I am taking the hint from the output of easydd and for my convenience I have created an alias (into my .bashrc) which I recall and print to the stdout (too long, not bothered to remember the whole command)

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~$ alias easy_dd
alias easy_dd='cat "image_file.iso.img" | dd of=/dev/sda bs=1M conv=fsync status=progress oflag=sync'
~$ 

I replace the path of image_file.iso.img and the device, example for the final terminal command to burn the .img to my usb stick /dev/sdc:

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cat "/home/spot/vanilladpup-11.0.232-ext4-2gb-uefi.img" | dd of=/dev/sdc bs=1M conv=fsync status=progress oflag=sync

works like a charm. No need to use/install any extra software as dd is ubiquitous to all distros.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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Feek wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 6:51 pm

My laptop can´t get to the desktop. Writing "startlabwc" didn't help. Please see the attached photo.

Please try

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pkexec rm /var/local/xwin_disable_xerrs_log_flag

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startlabwc
cat /tmp/xerrs.log

This should tell why it fails to start.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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@dimkr
here is the result

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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Feek wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 9:08 am

@dimkr
here is the result

Did you swap the kernel or attempt to install GPU drivers?

And as it says, check dmesg output, maybe drivers failed to load. I suspect that zdrv or fdrv is corrupt.

EDIT: I'll add more Intel GPU firmware, looks like some packages are missing; I wonder if Debian Live images include them

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 10:21 am

Did you swap the kernel or attempt to install GPU drivers?

No. I didn't do anything like that.

dimkr wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 10:21 am

And as it says, check dmesg output, maybe drivers failed to load. I suspect that zdrv or fdrv is corrupt.

Ok, I will share the dmesg output. But before I boot it again, could you please advice me on how to create a .txt file from it and save it to the device I booted from?

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Feek wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 12:51 pm

could you please advice me on how to create a .txt file from it and save it to the device I booted from?

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pkexec mv /path/to/file /mnt/home/
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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 1:14 pm
Feek wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 12:51 pm

could you please advice me on how to create a .txt file from it and save it to the device I booted from?

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pkexec mv /path/to/file /mnt/home/

I can run dmesg command directly from the command line.
I'm sorry, but I'm not able to create a .txt from it.
I have no idea where dmesg is located. I tried listing the contents of the usual location ("ls /var/log") and dmesg is not there.
Then I tried "dmesg > /mnt/home/log_01.txt" and it returned "bash: /mnt/home/log_01.txt: Permission denied.

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Feek wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:23 pm

Then I tried "dmesg > /mnt/home/log_01.txt" and it returned "bash: /mnt/home/log_01.txt: Permission denied.

It's because you're not root, try pkexec sh -c 'dmesg > /mnt/home/log_01.txt'

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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I know I am posting in the middle of a discussion among two users.

Few things about Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x

  • is there a GUI way to set up default applications?

  • probably related to the first point: I use w3m textual web browser and using Vanilla Dpup 10.0.x I always manage to open green links that contains images with the shortcut "I" , but in this case nothing happens; maybe I have to figure out how to set viewnior somewhere to open such content?

  • the shortcut SUPER+w opens the web browser , Librewolf. If I install another web browser, Mullvad Browser for instance, and into its settings I set it up "Make Default" , so Mullvad Browser > Settings > General > Make Default, after this change the shortcut SUPER+w now opens the file manager instead

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:28 pm
Feek wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:23 pm

Then I tried "dmesg > /mnt/home/log_01.txt" and it returned "bash: /mnt/home/log_01.txt: Permission denied.

It's because you're not root, try pkexec sh -c 'dmesg > /mnt/home/log_01.txt'

perhaps we are already close

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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@Feek It's ', not `

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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darksun wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:48 pm
  • is there a GUI way to set up default applications?

You can use spacefm for that, right-click a file, then Open>Choose.

darksun wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:48 pm
  • probably related to the first point: I use w3m textual web browser and using Vanilla Dpup 10.0.x I always manage to open green links that contains images with the shortcut "I" , but in this case nothing happens; maybe I have to figure out how to set viewnior somewhere to open such content?

The default terminal is foot and it doesn't handle URLs the same way, so read its documentation. Ctrl+Shift+o is a good start.

darksun wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 2:48 pm
  • the shortcut SUPER+w opens the web browser , Librewolf. If I install another web browser, Mullvad Browser for instance, and into its settings I set it up "Make Default" , so Mullvad Browser > Settings > General > Make Default, after this change the shortcut SUPER+w now opens the file manager instead

Super+w runs x-www-browser, I bet you just press Super+e by accident (which indeed opens spacefm).

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 4:12 pm

@Feek It's ', not `

I finally made it :)

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@Feek Thanks, the next build should include firmware-intel-graphics with the firmware your GPU needs

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 6:15 pm
bigpup wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 3:23 pm

Installed vanilladpup-11.0.232-ext4-2gb-uefi.img on a USB stick.

What tool did you use?

easydd v5

I tried a completely fresh new install.

This time woofwoof worked for the password.

But it still only boots to this point.
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when I run save2flash it terminates the job with the errors that no space is left.
I guess either the .img is made to create sda2 2GB or there sure is a way to expand sda2 to occupy the who remaining usb disk space?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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dimkr wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 4:45 pm

@Feek Thanks, the next build should include firmware-intel-graphics with the firmware your GPU needs

dimkr, I installed the latest version 11.0.233 and it works fine now. I' m posting from it now. :thumbup:

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Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

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But it still only boots to this point.

@bigpup I have this issue on first boot a few times. I posted about it awhile back.
I type startlabwc and get the desktop, save my changes and the next boot it works normally.

It's worth a shot.

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