AI is not coming, "THEY'RE HERE!"

[Jasper]

Pretty good AI f**k Bot movie ......... their descriptions of their 'companions' within the movie

The best quote of the movie is not listed on Imdb so far ............ 1hr 09 to 10

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26584495/

A weekend getaway with friends at a remote cabin turns into chaos after it's revealed that one of the guests is not what they seem.

https://i.postimg.cc/PrHqKbzn/Screensho ... 47-56.webp

[Grey]

A weekend getaway with friends at a remote cabin turns into chaos after it's revealed that one of the guests is not what they seem.

Well, these are the times now What did the USSR and the USA have in common during the Cold War? Both sides read the book Uncle Tom's Cabin. Many Soviet children sympathized with the characters of the book and worried about them

What do children in the United States and Russia have in common now? Both of them are watching movies about friends in some kind of hut with chaos inside

[superhik]

A weekend getaway with friends at a remote cabin turns into chaos after it's revealed that one of the guests is not what they seem.

Well, these are the times now What did the USSR and the USA have in common during the Cold War? Both sides read the book Uncle Tom's Cabin. Many Soviet children sympathized with the characters of the book and worried about them

What do children in the United States and Russia have in common now? Both of them are watching movies about friends in some kind of hut with chaos inside

You are a living psyop, KGB trained you well boy.

[bugnaw333]

Pretty good AI f**k Bot movie ......... their descriptions of their 'companions' within the movie

The best quote of the movie is not listed on Imdb so far ............ 1hr 09 to 10

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26584495/

A weekend getaway with friends at a remote cabin turns into chaos after it's revealed that one of the guests is not what they seem.

https://i.postimg.cc/PrHqKbzn/Screensho ... 47-56.webp

"Go to sleep Jasper"...

[Grey]

You are a living psyop, KGB trained you well boy.

In fact, everything is much simpler Either you don't have very strong nerves, or you're stuck deep in the 70s. Even a forum participant from Poland does not allow himself to speculate and theorize much about the KGB, because he has outgrown it.

[superhik]

You are a living psyop, KGB trained you well boy.

In fact, everything is much simpler Either you don't have very strong nerves, or you're stuck deep in the 70s. Even a forum participant from Poland does not allow himself to speculate and theorize much about the KGB, because he has outgrown it.

Look who is talking about being stuck in the past. Ts, rs, ts...
Hey I wrote it only because your every second sentence contains USSR.

[bugnaw333]

Look who is talking about being stuck in the past. Ts, rs, ts...
Hey I wrote it only because your every second sentence contains USSR.

Grey is a Russian...

[Grey]

Look who is talking about being stuck in the past. Ts, rs, ts...
Hey I wrote it only because your every second sentence contains USSR.

You're exaggerating. Not the second, but the third. Besides, I don't hesitate to remember something from my youth at night when insomnia comes. I remembered once reading a good book by an American writer, the trigger was the keyword "cabin". I do not know why this caused the KGB and psychological operations in your head. You pretended not to notice the main thing there, namely the comparison of the USSR, Russia and the USA in terms of "content consumption" (as it is now fashionable to say)

[superhik]

Ah yes, classic deflection. First, you mention the USSR every third sentence, now you’re pretending it’s all just a coincidence. Sure, buddy. Next, you’ll tell me the KGB also had movie nights in their little 'huts' watching Friends reruns. How convenient.

[Grey]

Next, you’ll tell me

Keep the story a little simpler. Could the KGB have used the aforementioned book for propaganda? Yes. "See how they treat blacks there?" On the other hand, the CIA portrayed the other side in comical caps with a silly expression and added non-existent diabolical properties. Even superhero comics have been used for propaganda, but that doesn't change anything. But surely you don't think that the children on both sides of the ocean cared about this at least? The kids just read books, rode bicycles, and didn't do the kind of nonsense we're doing right now

If you have hatred or resentment against the USSR, I can understand that But do not forget that, for example, the Germans remembered their youth after the war. It is youth, good events, and not the state system and someone else's decisions.

So say something else. You want to have the last word, that's important. And let's finish and start blaming AI for everything, like all normal people

[Jasper]

WATCH THE SKIES (fka UFO SWEDEN) is made possible with Flawless' new AI visual dubbing technology and will open in theaters May 9 2025 exclusively in over 100 AMC Theatres across the top 20 markets in the US, released by XYZ Films.

WATCH THE SKIES is the world's first theatrical full-length feature to use AI for immersive dubbing, making the characters appear to be speaking English, even though the original film was shot in Swedish. This pioneering approach made by AI company Flawless seamlessly integrates the voices of the dubbing actors into the film, ensuring perfect lip sync and eliminating the need for subtitles altogether. The film is dubbed by the original Swedish cast speaking English. With full endorsement from SAG, Flawless is leading the charge in ethical AI filmmaking, pushing boundaries, and crafting a new era of cinematic storytelling.

WATCH THE SKIES follows a rebellious teenager who believes her missing father was abducted by aliens. Joining forces with a quirky UFO club of endearing misfits, she embarks on a high-stakes adventure that defies the law and challenges the very fabric of reality.

[Clarity]

Powerful AI ability in the hands of everyday peoples of the world with NO restrictions...is continuing to advance.

DeepSeek has changed the landscape as it has Open-Sourced it AI to everyone in the world. They NOW are approved with Open-sourced licensing under MIT.

It is now able to be run locally on MACs, comfortably.

This Friday, they are doing a Revolutionary event where they are making available DeepSeek version V3 0324 to everyone in the world to train their individual projects using highest token model processing available to each and everyone in the world.

If you want to participate, with your ideas, research, or testing, the testing is happening, if I got this correct, on Friday ... but you must sign up for a slot as it ONLY open if you obtain a slot to allow your participation. Access to this level of compute power, for free, is ONLY going to be available on Friday to the world.

Some universities and their student groups are already active to participate; that I am aware of.

Enjoy

[wiak]

The way the world is being turned upside down by trump/putinism, Europe needs to break ties with the US and become a self-protecting superpower. Individuals need to embrace everything opensource and definitely opensource AI. We are becoming effectively at war with that old Ally and need to defend our own more civilized democracies, which took hundreds of years to eventually seek more justice and less slavery for its citizens. Trump/putinism/netanyahu or whatever his name is nonsense has gone back to the ideology where the powerful take the 'right' to squash and control their weaker neighbours. Europe needs to be strong and show the USA that they are making a mistake supporting that sick view of power. Europe will one day have the US come begging, but the answer to them should be no. Trump's mother was Scottish but he isn't a worthy grandchild of our culture; he will end up unable to visit our land, which also provided the USA with the generousity of Carnegie, who came from Dunfermline, the place of my birth. Goodbye America - we really don't need you.

[Wiz57]

@wiak Do keep in mind that not all US citizens are "MAGA", some of us feel much the same as you in regards to
current events. My "roots" are traceable to several areas...Scottish, Irish, German, Native American...a genuine "mongrel"! I can't freely
express my feelings/thoughts, but you can probably deduce that I have no respect for the current U.S. misadministration! It's kind of
difficult residing in a "deep red" section of this country!

[Grey]

Europe needs to break ties with the US and become a self-protecting superpower.
our own more civilized democracies,
is nonsense has gone back to the ideology where the powerful take the 'right'

Hello, wiak. Logic dictates that you are generally right. But the same logic sees a lot of problems The indigenous population is aging, and the youth (who are few) do not care about democracy. Migrants, ideas of nationalism from the Internet. Poland wants to become a new locomotive, France does not understand this (they make airplanes, weapons and have a spaceport and nuclear weapons). Germany looks at the two of them and winces. In such an environment, it would be good to preserve what already exists, rather than start a new grandiose "renovation". You also need to find a leader who will unite this diverse company.

You're not a boy anymore, you're a grown man. But remember what is written in the biology textbook in school years. The strongest organism survives and takes everything Yes, you can play democracy until you run out of resources. But then biology comes into play, which for some reason is stronger than logic and democracy invented by people
Ideology is one thing, but biology is another.

You forget that Europe, unlike China, for example, is not a country, but a union. The Union always hopes for joint work and assistance. That's the strength, but it's also the weakness. Unions break down much faster than countries. This is no longer from biology, but from history.
In general, I survived the collapse of one of the Unions without any history books

[wiak]

Europe needs to break ties with the US and become a self-protecting superpower.
our own more civilized democracies,
is nonsense has gone back to the ideology where the powerful take the 'right'

You're not a boy anymore, you're a grown man. But remember what is written in the biology textbook in school years. The strongest organism survives and takes everything Yes, you can play democracy until you run out of resources. But then biology comes into play, which for some reason is stronger than logic and democracy invented by people
Ideology is one thing, but biology is another.

You forget that Europe, unlike China, for example, is not a country, but a union. The Union always hopes for joint work and assistance. That's the strength, but it's also the weakness. Unions break down much faster than countries.

Well, Grey. I far from entirely deny what you are saying. Actually, though in some ways full of 'liberal types of views', at times I tend to the opposite. I use the word 'democracy' in a somewhat tongue in cheek manner since my own actions have little if anything to do with any feeling that democracy necessarily solves anything. But I don't like bullies and those who threaten the peaceful freedom of others via squashing the lives out of them or forcing them into slavery. Alas such behaviour has returned big time, and silence is no reasonable option when faced with that situation every day. Having said that, silence is more than a reasonable option if living in a state where non-silence will result in imprisonment, torture, and possible death - I'm silent then or at least until I can figure out some way to escape the silencing and get my own back. Turning the 'other cheap' and 'forgiving' has totally no value to me and even less so than any pretend democracy (and no system ever turns out particularly democratic really, which is maybe just as well considering how many idiots exist amongst the voting public; in evidence, consider 'BREXIT'... and boom went my highly valued 'European Passport'... sigh).

[rockedge]

I know a lot of Americans (being in the USA) that are definitely not MAGA and think that the "America First" agenda is as stupid and dangerous as it gets.

@wiak you do realize you are living in the Philippines or no? Not the most stable place on Earth to say the least but maybe it's better now.

Ask a MAGA cultist when was it exactly that America was "Great" so we can understand where we are headed and what the goal is.

The huge concerns that using TikTok is handing the Chinese detailed American data seems misplaced when our highest government officials use Signal, on a smart phone.........to discuss war plans, with one member of the chat group standing in Moscow.......no "security" problem there it seems...........all "safe" they said in front of Congress.

There are companies building spy software for sale (Israel for example) that have penetrated the encryption tunnel of Signal and can manipulate ANY mobile communication device.

I know German history very well. I remember the Soviet Union. I paid attention over the decades and here I now stand (or sit) being ignored and my participation is not voluntary but who cares about that? We've reached a time very very quickly if one speaks ill of certain things, one might fall out of a window or worse.

My advice @wiak is run for the jungle and do not ever rely on the United States as being a trustworthy partner.

[Grey]

how many idiots exist amongst the voting public;

This is generally an interesting question We need scientific research and percentage calculations. Maybe AI will do it.

Although there is another factor. Elections are often arranged in such a way that, compared to the central candidate, the other candidates look nothing. For example, I'm just exercising my legal right not to participate in the elections.

[wiak]

For example, I'm just exercising my legal right not to participate in the elections.

Not all countries have that as a legal right. Some seem to make it necessary to vote for one particular candidate, even if there are many, or face dire consequencies (like finding yourself falling out of a window indeed, from ten stories up).

[Grey]

falling out of a window

Last week, drones flew into the center of my town. A museum, a shop (also an old building with towers) and a house were damaged. A funnel on the ground. Text messages about the danger come to the phone every day and with a request not to approach the windows. You know, I'm not afraid of windows anymore. It was disturbing at first, and then somehow... I don't know, I don't care.
The only windows I'm afraid of are Windows OS now.

[Clarity]

Our future, from my point of view, is one of dispair.

It appears that the ONLY hope left for manikind bsed upon its currect 100K year trajectory, it to evolve to a world where GREED is not seen as the best approach for existence.

This is the foundation argument that existed between Socrates and Plato.

It also, too bad that as Socrates and Plato were viewing the world coming out of the knowledge of the Black Egyptians (a country like @Grey mentioned versus a union) world where their view of existence 'appears' to not be based upon greed, WE haven't learned.

The US's exposure is a re-enforced determination that greed (aka capitalism wearing a cloak of Democracy) will be the only way forward. Greed is the way forward for their leader and Fascism it their implementation via their War machine.

Remembering what Hiltler did to Stalin, I dont believe Putin will fall into the Stalin trust trap set by Hitler (aka the current us president echo'ing the same behavior as Hitler).

I am old. Watching this trajectory has shaken my faith in mankind where it continues to teach this greed when a particular country becomes too militarily powerful over its neighbors.

I fear the outcome will either bring forth an annihilatio! or a termination...never learning the obvious. The Egyptians were 'right' on one-thing, IMHO, WOMEN & MEN were viewed as equal in society. The Greeks change that and it has led to the constant conflicts up to and including the world we live.

WE have to WAKE UP!

[Clarity]

If the Open-Source AI trajectory has World's influence and enough on the right ones of us can contribute toward a NON-GREEDY method of implementation, then mankind WILL propel to the kind of existence most WOMEN's mentality of mankind wants. ... "Equity"!

Right now, we dont have it.

It seems we are being led by the US to HATE countries which dont or are trying to not operate on the Greed level aspect in their existence. "If you're not Greedy, then you are weak and we should control you!"

[wiak]

I agree with you Clarity. The underlying problem is quite simple, really: greed.

Whenever we oppose that greed we are immediately labelled by some as 'Communists', which is just a trick use of language to effectively prevent opposition to greed.

In capitalism the biggest source of greed is how most businesses operate. They increase their profits by keeping employee wages down as low as possible whilst tying to force as much productivity as they can. The result is massive income for those who operate the business and survival income for those who end up doing as much of the work as the business management can get out of them. The more profit the business can end up with, due to high productivity aligned with low wages and overheads, the better managed that business is considered to be under that system based on greed.

That is a terrible attitude in terms of how business owners treat other individuals who, most often through no fault of their own, are less fortunately positioned.

Personally, I'm heavily influenced by the freely given environment of cooperation opensource involves. So in our family business we try to keep our charges to customers low, enough to cover our risks for good times and bad, and for the security of our small staff team, yet enough, via less greed, to provide our few employees with better rewards by a good amount compared to what similar workers are generally paid. Our plan is not to keep our staff wages as low as possible, but rather to provide them with growing opportunity for better and higher paid lives; in a sense we extend our family to include them. The only catch is that they need to embrace that family team such that we all work on its behalf, and we already have in place a system where any over-the-top-successful earnings end up providing additional support to the families of workers (past and present) we care for - including paying school fees/school supplies for their kids, but with the caveat that they demonstrate good annual school report/results (free as in free speech, not free as in beer). Personally I feel little need for money and don't value it aside from enjoying occasional travel (which we only do thus far as part of useful business-related trips to customers and potential customers, and we take our small staff team with us to help them see a bit of the world and as a team building exercise).

This is nothing to do with trying to behave like 'angels' for praise or to make ourselves feel better as human beings in some artificial fake generosity. The world is sadly too fill of that kind of self-loving pretence. Rather it is to do with cooperation and a view on what is actually fair and right. Admittedly, we are very careful about the type of people we employ and if they are not considerate nice people we simply don't want them in our team no matter how experienced or skilled they otherwise are - finding people who are not 'greedy', but genuinely caring and dedicated and wishing to do their best is the tricky bit. Good luck to all such people is what I say and feel, and get lost to the rest is fine in my book.

Some take offence at my use of the word 'nutcase', but that is just my generic term for those who I find 'greedy' in their claims of absolute truth, which tend to be absolute rubbish outside of their selfish fake discourse constructions. Alas AI will also no doubt learn to spout a lot of that fake discourse constructions too since these nutcases spend most of their lives filling the information void with more and more of the nonsense such that AI will also be continually trained by that world full landfill saturation of fake human-constructed falsely-god-claimed narratives. This is not to claim that greed is a 'SIN' per se - it is just an unfortunately very common anti-social human behaviour pattern. Survival of the fittest so claims Grey, but that is Grey confusing Darwinism with social-Darwinism, which is not what Darwin himself ever meant by his theories.

[Grey]

Darwinism with social-Darwinism,

You and I live in states with a capitalist system (more or less). Do you think the upper (rich, powerful), well, let's say the strata of the population are Social Darwinists or not? When making decisions, do they take into account the opinions or desires of the "weaker ones"?

It doesn't matter if the term is pseudoscientific or not. Are they or are they not inherently?

[rockedge]

When making decisions, do they take into account the opinions or desires of the "weaker ones"?

In the USA I used to think so......not anymore. Anyone below multimillionaire status are simply considered a commodity from which labor and money is extracted.

[Grey]

That's the whole point. The top puts pressure on the lower layers (which, in turn, seem to be democratic, but cannot say no). Yes, the lower layer can wander around a bit with angry banners , the upper one will wave a white handkerchief at them from the balcony. And that's it, then the bag, the gear and now you're in the jungle, desert or prairie. It's almost like being in an anthill

[d-pupp]

I am surprised by how fast it's happening.
It all seemed so strong so secure.
Now it looks like it was just an illusion. Held together by the good will of the people in power.

[geo_c]

I agree with you Clarity. The underlying problem is quite simple, really: greed.

But the levels of "greed" go far deeper than money.

The super rich don't need anymore money, what money means to them is something entirely different, i.e. power -- the use of humanity's resources to control society.

Furthermore most of the political "-isms" bantered about (communism, capitalism, socialism, fascism) don't actually exist on the ground anywhere, they are dialectics used to control society. In other words there are no real world examples that actually fit these alleged definitions of political theory. At best one could say the political structures of the world are hybrids, at worst one could say they are different manifestations of a monolithic control mechanism.

The dialectics of these theories however insure that various sectors of society are kept in crisis mode, always with an "enemy" against which to react.

So comes along the current figureheads with their "dark enlightenment" and coporate oligarchy, which was always present and in full operation since the early 20th century, but now prompt those on the "opposite side" of the dialectic to reaction mode.

Until some later date when the figureheads expressing the "opposite side" of the dialectic are allowed back at the helm, and the reaction is reversed. All the while moving the same direction, total central control through technocracy.

My basic assertion: as long we fight a "right vs left" war we are playing right along with the game leading to our own slavery though autocratic control.

[bigpup]

The start of Skynet is here now!
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[Wiz57]

@bigpup Are you sure the lower pic isn't a clandestine picture of us, the 4 "global moderators",
bigpup, Flash, mikewalsh and Wiz57?
LOL!