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ALL think tanks are not funded when they start. I gave your this forum's KL distros as an example. To further force-feed the theme, a group of forum members came together to examine a technological technique for doing things...it grew into something known as "KLs" on this forum.!
You're looking for something, I suspect. Does that have anything to do with AI,today?
Yes, it important to know who is financing the advancement of AI. Following the money will tell you who will profit and what their motive is. Wasn't it Darpa who comissioned the development of decentralized network protocols in order to protect the largest nuclear aresenal on the planet?
ARPA research played a central role in launching the Information Revolution. The agency developed and furthered much of the conceptual basis for the ARPANET—prototypical communications network launched nearly half a century ago—and invented the digital protocols that gave birth to the Internet. DARPA also provided many of the essential advances that made possible today’s computers and communications systems, including seminal technological achievements that support the speech recognition, touch-screen displays, accelerometers, and wireless capabilities at the core of today’s smartphones and tablets. DARPA has also long been a leader in the development of artificial intelligence, machine intelligence and semi-autonomous systems. DARPA’s efforts in this domain have focused primarily on military operations, including command and control, but the commercial sector has adopted and expanded upon many of the agency’s results to develop wide-spread applications in fields as diverse as manufacturing, entertainment and education.
williwaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:51 pmI read reports that AI is heavily funded by the "defense" departments of nations at war, and utilized to analyze targets for bombing missions in Gaza. I suppose the "colleratal damage" can also be attributed to AI.
Reports of AI saving lives in other domains? not so much...
It's a crazy world we live in.
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Yes, the think tank efforts led to proposals, equipment planning and test equip sourcing, usual product development resulted, test cases identified, proof of concept, improvements, business models erupted, so on and so on.
If you are looking for a group to blame, then you've "missed the train". Everyone in doing it now. Kids are jumping in the water all over the place. We are already in a Brave New World and the old people are scared by media and leaders.
But, there hope that mankind, overall in all age-groups, starts to see the value of evidence based information and are able to identify that which is non-evidence which is useful in entertainment.
Enjoy!
What good would that do? I'm just calling a spade a spade.
Except that the inevitable implentation of an AI driven society increasingly ensures that the majority population develops an inate ability to say that black is blue, and 2+2=(support for the next 'peace-keeping mission), or that the majority is 'right', because everyone's doing it, and most importantly, that evidence based opposition to the "trusted narrative" doesn't exist, because "AI" searches simply fail to reference it, or undercut it with obfuscation and appeals to authority.
But go ahead and continue to tell us how that view is based on "fear" and not simple observation. I'm listening.
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@geo_c you like any of us is allowed to want to see the world in our own way of "recogning".
I dont agree with your proposal, but you're allowed to envision that as a purpose. You might throw other examples of how tools for developing the informational narratives are derived using said tools.
BUT that's not AI. ... even though the tools says "AI ..." per sec. The tool(s) are using the LLMs to collect information to give you something in a fashion you ask. AI did not generate that, you did ... rather the questions put to it gave a feedback to assist you. You can ask it to generate any fictional or non-fictional narrative and it will assist you as best it can.
AI is not sentient...YOU and I are. 
It depends on how you define "sentient".
In storytelling, it's mandatory to maximize "show" and minimize "tell", right? left?
i.e.
Tell:
Adam is furious.
Or,
Adam screams, "You're pissing me off motherfather!"
Show:
Adam's face turns crimson, eyes are narrowed, nostrils flaring with each breath.
or
Adam kicks the door open, slams his hand down on the table, hurls the coffee mug across the room.
After numerous hours of prompt engineering in screenwriting,
I can say that AI understands how to detect, predict, recognize,
describe, judge, and respond to any emotional signal.
Oh @Clarity, in case you missed it (or need some more clarity)...
Google fires engineer who contended its AI technology was sentient
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/business ... index.html
Does this AI know it’s alive?
https://www.vox.com/23167703/google-art ... l-sentient
@sonny I am trying as best I can to get where you're trying to go? If you dont find my ideas relevant move on to better ideas or create new useful ones with skills you have to do so..
For the rest of us
The technology of the world bring opportunity much different from our past. Like ALL nature's organisms, we, too, will evolve just as technology has done so.
Dont believe the pundits that will not see a better overall world as WE can work for positive improvements.
Here's a message that suggest we could be on the cusp of a better lifestyle.
Watch to determine if we see a positive change of stance for humankind:
The "Well said" comment above seems to be self-referencial. EDIT. Ok I see now. In earlier post. Not sure if well said tho. May develop and be sentient or indistinguishable from sentient? Will it have a "soul"?
Aren't useful to who? Self-referential again?
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williwaw wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:57 amYes, it important to know who is financing the advancement of AI. Following the money will tell you who will profit and what their motive is. Wasn't it Darpa who comissioned the development of decentralized network protocols in order to protect the largest nuclear aresenal on the planet?
Even by 1990 when I was doing TCP/IP protocol related research, the vast majority of the research funding came from Ministry of Defence.
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Hello @wiak,
Long time no talk since "... Hamas..." thread.
Reread the recipient & the context.
It's self-explanatory.
sonny wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:33 amHello @wiak,
Long time no talk since "... Hamas..." thread.
Reread the recipient & the context.
It's self-explanatory.
I think you need to re-read my post you above quoted since it is self-explanatory per EDIT. I don't remember earlier communication. Couldnt have been important to me.
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Why would anyone bd 'scared' on this forum? I really don't mind whether or not I am 'important' to you. It was just that I didn't want to be silent and thus appear in agreement to the statement that @Clarity comments were somehow irrelevant or meaningless. Right or wrong they seemed like reasonable and interesting opinions to me at least despite not being to you whoever you are. This is a forum and opinions and discussion is what it is about, and not about personal attacks claiming irrelevance.
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Thats so umm... evangelistic. A lot of feel good rhetoric... self aggrandizing.
TBH, I dont think an evidence based statistical analysis of the fossil record can support your
conclusion that "Like ALL nature's organisms, we, too, will evolve"
HA! 
Yeah the branches on the trees of evolution are meaningless, huh?
Wow, this thread is turning upside down with concerns that mankind just might be on the verge of something significant.
Oh well...I yield to the louder ones who seem interested in opposition.
Yeah the branches on the trees of evolution are meaningless, huh? :lol:
Wow, this thread is turning upside down with concerns that mankind just might be on the verge of something significant.
Oh well...I yield to the louder ones who seem interested in opposition.
Not sure what you are reading into my opinion, but to be a bit clearer....
the fossil record provides no evidence that the continued evolution of any species is assured, or said another way,
you are promoting faith
