Questions about booting Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

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Questions about booting Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

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1st some info:
Been using linux (mostly Xubuntu) 4 years now, but (vision/headaches/health/etc) still really don't like terminal, prefer GUI where possible. [tiny print too hard 2 read!]
[if some of these R in wrong section, where to ask?]
oh, mostly use XFCE desktop, but willing to try others IF readability ok & easy to find everything.

Questions:
(VERY new to Easy OS, only tried ?x years ago?)
1) Is there just "Easyos" or is there "Easyos" & a puppy "EasyOS"?
[pretty sure TRIED: "EasyOS--IMG"; [won't boot] FOUND, now need to try: "easypup"]
"EasyOS"--.img file; "easypup" ISO file ----but should GRUB boot both? different setup?
if it won't boot w USB, does that mean won't boot w GRUB?
2) Have never been able to boot Easy OS from USB (this computer) Not sure why; no error msgs, shows up & reads just fine. (Linux-Xubuntu reads USB)
3) have read several, including:
https://www.linuxbabe.com/desktop-linux ... oot-loader
but STILL MAJOR problems, only thing been able to boot that way, Clonezilla (gave up using OMG WAY WAY too SMALL PRINT!)
4) Has anyone loaded Easyos-ISO, from GRUB boot menu, & if so, EXACTLY how?!?
5) Supposedly puppy can "multi-boot" ---boot several "puppies" from same partition (mult ISOs?)
Detials? HOW setup? [use GRUB menu?

This would B great, could actively use 1-2, while trying some others... (but again, MUST BOOT!)
6) anyone familiar with "sys rescue CD"?
https://www.system-rescue.org/
Been using for YEARS, Boots off USB, (but only in 1 slot this computer?!?) anyway...
IDEALLY, would like to be able to add their ISO to the GRUB boot menu, but many many tries nothing works! :-(

Would be happy to find something to replace that (permanent install?) for example, puppy x /EasyOS ? BUT 1st need to be able to 1) BOOT the bloody thing (ideally w GRUB), & 2) SAVE a few basic things. (like screen size, 1st thing boot "sys Rescue" -1 dvork keyboard -2 GUI 3- resolution. (too high = unreadable! Even some DE (Desktop env) make this very hard to change! (or flat out doesn't work)
7) Idea "puppy" : --very small -incl basic utilities (Gparted, Featherpad (hate vi omg!) TERMINAL MUST be easy to adjust FONT size! (XFCE terminal has good options) 1024x768 res (at boot would b best, or easy to adjust (fairly quick w "Sys Recue CD) -otherwise, bare bones min; [need for mount/unmount/check/etc ROOT partition; also some Gparted stuff]
WAY 2 easy make mistakes---mostly write out/edit stuff, then copy/paste to terminal;
Anyway, if Easy not best OS, what is?
(wanted to try "Saluki" & "NOP (No Office Pup) " but still looking for DL links; )

Oh, sidenote: have "ISO-MASTER" (won't open .img files) but only help if know exactly what to do.

Ideal: (for EasyOS)
-boot from GRUB boot menu
-boot with: res 1024x768; Eng-DVORK keyboard. (sys-recue CD ask for keyboard during boot, still trying to figure out how to SAVE that! lol))

If anyone can answer any of those Qs, thanks very much!

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Re: Boot Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

Post by pp4mnklinux »

Hi @tryPuppy :

I am learning to use EasyOs, so there are advanced users who can help u, but if u want the method which worked the best for me...

viewtopic.php?t=12137 / https://easyosinstall.wordpress.com/202 ... ng-easyos/

Have a nice day.

:arrow:

XFCE_FUSILLI . ===> https://puppyxfcefusilli.wordpress.com/

YouTube How_To . ==> https://bit.ly/f96ce_xfce_fusilli_HOWTO

Learning EASY OS . => https://easyos.org/

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Re: Boot Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

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with any distro you should be able to configure fonts or print to a size easy enough to work with.

for getting started with your many questions, try a search in Barrys documentation at https://bkhome.org/news/
or try the advanced search at the top of each forum page. When you click on the gear to the right of the search bar, you can narrow down your searches to the EasyOs subforum.

Puppy and Easy are different. Easypup was a cool project, but it is a few years old and may not be revisited

The EasyOs .img is easiest booted from a dedicated USB
see https://easyos.org/install/how-to-write ... drive.html

booting with grub2 will work if you wish to make a frugal install on a different drive. the easiest tools to use will be on your EasyOs USB.
booting the .img directly from grub2, as you would boot an .iso probaly wont work.

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Re: Boot Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

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1st, NONE of the hints about trying it are of any help, when can't even get it to BOOT!

I have EasyOS on USB, but again, can't get to boot.
Ironically, also having same problem w Ventoy, (on separate USB) ---that's a multi-boot USB

from memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1096
"booting with grub2 will work if you wish to make a frugal install on a different drive. the easiest tools to use will be on your EasyOs USB.
booting the .img directly from grub2, as you would boot an .iso probaly wont work." "
--so GRUB (2) boots ISOs, but NOT IMG?

Since the easyos USB won't boot, is there a way to do this within Xubuntu?
[not sure what linux sys is on Sys Recue, but only other USB OS can boot.]

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Re: Boot Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

Post by rockedge »

@tryPuppy,

What is happening during the failed boot that you can see?

Most likely is the boot loader and/or boot stanza(s) configuration. Since EasyOS is designed to work from USB, we should be able to diagnose why you can't get EasyOS started from USB stick/drive

What kind of machine is this happening on?

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Re: Boot Easy OS with GRUB boot menu

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tryPuppy wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:04 pm

1st, NONE of the hints about trying it are of any help, when can't even get it to BOOT!

I have EasyOS on USB, but again, can't get to boot.

Did you follow the developers tutorial for installing to the USB, if so please be more specific as to what happens when the boot fails, as tutorials can be improved with feedback.

--so GRUB (2) boots ISOs, but NOT IMG?

maybe some .img files, but you would be better of opening the image up and making a frugal install if you dont want to write the image to a dedicated drive.
The easy image contains two different partitions and this might be too much to expect from grub2 to boot as if it was an .iso

Since the easyos USB won't boot, is there a way to do this within Xubuntu?
[not sure what linux sys is on Sys Recue, but only other USB OS can boot.]

Barry has written easydd which will run on Xubuntu
https://bkhome.org/news/202005/easydd-p ... linux.html

I am not familer with SysRescue, but if it boots, from a USB, then your hardware wil most likely work with EasyOs on a USB

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