Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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Hello folks!
I am download Latest Version BookwormPup and using Easy2boot try booting to Puppy but it stuck at kernel booting.
Can you suggest how to boot?
I am try kernel parameters
pfix=ram
acpi=off
not help

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Re: stuck at kernel booting

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deepforest wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:49 pm

Hello folks!
I am download Latest Version BookwormPup and using Easy2boot try booting to Puppy but it stuck at kernel booting.
Can you suggest how to boot?
I am try kernel parameters
pfix=ram
acpi=off
not help

you dont say whether you are trying to install to an internal drive or a USB
Easy2boot from windows?
If you do not have a running linux system to install from you might try rufus.....
more specific help is available if you explain more about what you are trying to do.

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Re: stuck at kernel booting

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usb flash drive Easy2boot from windows
its possible?
or i need standalone usb drive for puppy :?

PS also EasyOS do not boot too via Easy2boot :(

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Re: stuck at kernel booting

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the simplest method to work with frugal installs:

as you are interested in Easy and if you have a spare USB, look at
https://easyos.org/install/how-to-write ... drive.html
installing from windows about half way down the page

an Easy USB will have all the linux tools you need to make a frugal install of any puppy on a different USB ( or you can easily download frugalpup) with the link at the bottom this tutorial

Many non-puppy tools dont know how to make a Puppy frugal install correctly
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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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Thanks. So you cant say why its not working via Easy2boot?
Last East2boot have Ventoy. I tried Ventoy via my E2B drive. First time EasyOs successfully booted and worked. But when i try at second i have error.
Two screens from puppy and easyos.
Maybe i need contact to E2B developer for explain this.

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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there are guys that run windows install apps and others that run third party boot apps, and perhaps some will pick up. search "easy ventoy" in the search bar
Easiest method by far was posted above, IMO.
It doesnt suprise me that Easy does not play well with ventoy and such. it is supplied as an image that expands to fill the drive at first boot (when installed to a USB.)

Easy frugal installs can be made on a USB, but you would need to partition your USB and install a bootloader beforehand, just like you would with an internal drive.

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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re. Bookworm, try this

1. Use a real system (not a VM or emulator)
2. Boot to Easy2Boot (Legacy/BIOS mode not UEFI)
3. Select the Bookworm ISO and use default E2B to boot to the Bookworm grub4dos menu
4. First boot entry in Bookworm menu will be selected - press 'e' key to edit menu
5. You will see the boot menu
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=fsck,fsckp
errorcheck off
initrd /initrd.gz
initrd /ucode.cpio /initrd.gz
6. Use 'e' key again - edit first line as below and press Enter key
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck,fsckp edd=off loglevel=7
7. use cursor down key to highlight the 2nd last line (initrd /initrd.gz) - and press 'd' key to delete it
You should now see menu lines as:
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck,fsckp edd=off loglevel=7
errorcheck off
initrd /ucode.cpio /initrd.gz
8. press 'b' key to boot

You can try adding vga=ask to first line to choose a vga mode.

For me, this boots ok on my Asus Z87 i5 PC, but the graphical desktop never appears - I just get a blank screen for some reason.

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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edd=off loglevel=7

thanks, but same stuck

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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pmedia=usbflash

??? did you try ???

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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Welcome to Puppy Linux :welcome:

If you have issues with Easy OS.

Easy OS has it's own section in this forum.
viewforum.php?f=63

All issues with it need to be posted in that section of the forum.

Please help us all, by only talking about one specific Puppy Linux version, in a topic.
They are all slightly different.
It gets hard to follow and really messy, to try providing help with more than one specific operating system.

To really provide good help.
Providing good info is needed.
Read this topic:
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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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A lot of Installer programs for installing and booting from a USB do not fully understand or setup for booting Puppy Linux.

What you need to use is an installer program that puts all the files that are in the Puppy versions ISO on the USB.
This is a live install.
The ISO provides a boot loader that is setup to boot the Puppy version.

For a program running in Windows.

Rufus

Unetbootin

There is specific topics here on using them:
viewforum.php?f=156

Ventoy
Info on using it is here:
viewforum.php?f=155
.

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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As bigpup wrote, not every installer understands Puppy's structure and functions to create a bootable USB-Stick. Under Windows I recommend rufus. See the detailed instructions here, viewtopic.php? p=40522#p40522].

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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working!
download newest versions of puppy and easyos,
ventoy at easy2boot,
puppy booting-working with no problems,
easyos booting-working good only once at second no, i see img size of easyos increased after reboot, os something write to img, maybe so,
if copy again, downloaded img and booting, all working good until reboot

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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Post topic about issues with Easy OS in the Easy OS section of the forum.
viewforum.php?f=63

You can get much better help posting there.

Easy OS is not a Puppy Linux OS, but it is provided space on this forum.
The developer of it is the original developer of Puppy Linux.

He is using Easy OS as a way to try out new ways to do stuff, that may or may not get into Puppy Linux.
It is really a completely different operating system.
Similar to, but not the same in a lot of ways.

The things you do not tell us, are usually the clue to fixing the problem.
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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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Ok. Can you explain please.
Why original author of Puppy starting make own EasyOS?

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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He is no longer involved in Puppy Linux.

He gave up all control of Puppy Linux.

Puppy Linux was completely turned over to others and people who want to work on it.
Like people who are members of this forum.

Easy OS is his personal project to stay involved in Linux operating systems development.
Completely separate from Puppy Linux.
Might say it is his hobby.
His way of something to do in retirement.

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Re: Unable to boot BookwormPup from USB stick with Easy2boot from Windows

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BarryK loves to explore. Before 'surrendering the reins' he insured the survival of Puppy Linux by creating Woof. Woof was then an application which could use the binaries of (theoretically) any Linux Distro in the creation of a Puppy. Prior to Woof, in order to create a Puppy you would have to start from scratch, both figuratively and at that time literally. There's an application known 'Linux from Scratch' which, literally, can be used to compile all components. Compiling is work-intensive and time-consuming. [The FatDog team still uses it to create the binaries they then use in a modified Woof to create FatDog].

Before Woof only BarryK created Puppys. That left him little time to explore the more cutting edge aspects of Linux. [EasyOS although 'Puppy-like' is a cutting edge Distro enabling a user to run applications and even entire other operating systems in Containers. The safest way to run a Web-facing application is in a Container as any malware inadvertently downloaded from the Web can not escape the Container].

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