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....the crux of my question was......
are you an enthusiast again?
or prefer for us to believe you are still a newbie?

I have some interest, but little free time.

And have you come to this community to contribute or complain?

I came here for help because Linux is alien to me ...

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a new laptop with windows 10. When that crashed very badly, I decided I just couldn't take windows anymore, and eventually ended up here.

I am not sure I understand. Earlier you stated
When I was an computer enthusiast,
but surely you must have been using windows enthusiastically just ...

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We identified a subset of suspected Paragon deployments, including in Australia, Canada, Cyprus, Denmark, Israel, and Singapore.
https://citizenlab.ca/2025/03/a-first-l ... perations/

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geo_c wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 6:33 pm
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"The reluctance for people (in general) to acknowledge the obvious astounds me." -Governor

True statement, IMO. Many people (in general) have a problem with that. Not a secret.

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Microsoft killed DOS, and I gave it all up in 2005........................ It took me two years to get to this point with first fossapup and now bookworm,

so you have been using something like mac all these years... or?
just curious if fossapup is your first go around with Linux?

What I ...

Governor

The reluctance for people (in general) to acknowledge the obvious astounds me.

Lurker here, but can't resist the urge to chime in. Allow me to state "the obvious" ...

In a nutshell, you want to use rox in double-click mode, while simultaneously expecting rox to operate in a quasi single ...

Governor

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Open a Rox window and do not left click on anything. Nothing has been selected.

Then a single right click on an item will open the right click options for that item.
Right click on a different item and it gives options menu for it.
So the right click does select the correct item.

But ...

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@Governor
Ok, I do understand your frustration. I think most Linux users have been gone through the process of finding out e.g. "What is the best Linux for me".
(for example started with trying Ubuntu and came finally to a decision what OS suits them the most)

If you don't want systemd, there ...

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Seriously? So you claim that the demonstrated behavior is not a bug? It is patently obvious that it is, but you would rather mock and ridicule me (the newbie) instead of acknowledging the obvious? 🤔 So that would also mean, you think it is wrong to move an app window with the mouse. 😲

No ...

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I am a newbie when it comes to Linux, both self-described, and as described by just about everyone else. Since when do newbies go to the developers to point out issues? Especially when no other Linux users in this forum cares about it but me. It is the veteran users and enthusiasts who ought to ...

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Search for a string that will take a long time searching. Grab the window with the mouse and drag it around. This is a bug. . But no one cares, so why bother?

lol..
let make a comparision to the car sale you mentioned above....

1. go for a test drive out on the interstate and put the pedal ...

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Here is another issue, this one is with pFind. Is it harmful? Probably not. I have seen this error in Windows 3 or 4 times, and if I kept going (in Windows), the memory would eventually run out and the OS would freeze requiring a reboot.
pFind error.JPG

1) What did you do? When the dialog ...

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To sum up: a self-described "newbie" refuses to go to the Rox developers and level a complaint, but rather takes the time and energy to characterize the flaws of the puppy-linux community informing him that Rox is not in the scope of puppy-linux developers to alter.

I am a newbie ...

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Care to see a real 🪳 of the Right-Click menu?

As we have learned in Lesson 3, a file that is right-clicked when no other files are selected will be selected temporarily .
This can easily be verified:

Step 1: In List View make the Name column very wide so that it will not be fully covered by the ...

Governor

In single click navigation in Rox.
The only thing that can happen, is what you left click on, will run or open in a program for accessing it.
How is that dangerous? It's dangerous because you might inadvertently start an application that is supposed to be run from a terminal. Particularly nasty ...

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help vampires

:roll:

I would roll my eyes also after discovering I've run out of issues with actual puppy-linux code, and so found myself resorting to fabricating issues with GTK, ROX, and finally testdisk (the biggest stretch to date) with which to try and claim are now the burden of ...

Governor

williwaw wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:13 pm
Governor wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 1:56 pm
This has not been explained to me.

help vampires

Governor

Start all programs from a terminal, if a gui pops up, it has a gui. If not, it doesn't.
Also if something doesn't work right, it will generally spit out errors.

And please.......don't tell me this isn't how it's done in windows.

Do you mean all GUI programs can be started at the prompt ...

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I do not know how anyone can tell if a program can run from the GUI or in terminal. This has not been explained to me.

Start all programs from a terminal, if a gui pops up, it has a gui. If not, it doesn't.
Also if something doesn't work right, it will generally spit out errors.

And please ...

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Endlessly talking about this issue becomes very boring IMO.
:thumbup:

Btw, does it matter if it's popular or not ? If you want to end this boring issue maybe you stop asking more questions ;)

The 'error' can only be fixed by the rox developers.
For those willing to read the 'error' can ...

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If you deleted a file from an ext4 partition, maybe you can recover it, especially if it's shortly after deletion: deletion doesn't write zero bytes or garbage to the physical space occupied by the file contents (only marks such blocks as free for use), so the data might still be there.

Try ...

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Apparently not, or perhaps they have no time or have other priorities, so what now? Endlessly talking about this issue becomes very boring IMO.

Some people wonder why the OS is not more popular. 🤔 And there you have it.

And what do you do to make it more popular ? Complaining doesn't ...

Governor

2 clicks increases the required user's actions by 100%, and is a ridiculous inconvenience.

Using your math, double click navigation increases your ENTIRE file manager work flow by 100%.

So what should take you 5 minutes, now takes 10 minutes.

You are literally pissing away days and weeks ...

Governor

fredx181 wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:44 am
Governor wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:31 am
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Are seasoned veterans not interested in reporting this error??
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Apparently not, or perhaps they have no time or have other priorities, so what now? Endlessly talking about this issue becomes very boring IMO.

Some people wonder why the OS is not more popular. And there you have it.

Governor

If you deleted a file from an ext4 partition, maybe you can recover it, especially if it's shortly after deletion: deletion doesn't write zero bytes or garbage to the physical space occupied by the file contents (only marks such blocks as free for use), so the data might still be there.

Try ...

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.......
alternate-1 protocol:
1) Try another linux filemanager
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Thunar requires gvfs-fuse, but the file is not there.
Error installing gvfs-fuse.jpg

Xfe and pcmanfm look promising.

When you're running a true puppy, I believe that pmount and whatever native mounting systems ...

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A perfect illustration of the issue.

I cannot duplicate this,
perhaps someone who can will explain what app they are using to open the file with and how they closes that app.

With single-click turned off in Rox options.
I created 2 files, temp1.txt and temp2.txt.
I left-clicked on temp1 ...

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I like using Rox, but since is has no "Trash or undelete", I will have to find an alternative.

The trash for Rox is the trash icon on the desktop. ( a Rox app program)

Drag and drop an item from a Rox window onto the trash icon, removes it, puts it in trash.

Left click on the trash icon to ...

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Why would you left click on an item to select it and then right click on some other item to bring up the right click menu?

if I (right)click a .txt file and choose "Open As Text" , close it, then (right)click another .txt file and choose "Open As Text", it will open the orginal .txt file again ...

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Why would you left click on an item to select it and then right click on some other item to bring up the right click menu?

if I (right)click a .txt file and choose "Open As Text" , close it, then (right)click another .txt file and choose "Open As Text", it will open the orginal .txt file again ...

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