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hello, is it possible to add a category in the menu? I looked with pupmenu and menu manager. But I can't find how to do it. Is it also possible to make submenus? Thank you for your help.
solved: tutorial PDF https://kdrive.infomaniak.com/app/share ... f9da2d4588
@bilou :-
Um... Right. Well, yes; it CAN be done.
I've done it myself, with a couple of my own Pups.......but it WAS very much an experiment, and was enabled via a very messy 'hack'; a lot of manual editing of the /root/.jwmrc file, then putting a copy of this somewhere safe & copying it back over again every time 'X' is restarted.
(I freely admit I don't understand the JWM scripting syntax, OR how to enable this kind of thing properly. Some of our members do, for sure.....but I wouldn't recommend doing it the way I did it..! 
)
I'll be following this thread, because I, too, would like to know how to do this correctly.
Mike. 
There is a topic about this on the old murga-forum: https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtop ... 2#p1058752
This method does not follow xdg menu hierarchy, but it works for static submenu entries, meaning that it doesn't use categories from .desktop files at all.
@HerrBert :-
Interesting method, mate, but it looks bloody complicated! 
I think I'll stick with my own method.....which involves a static, manually-modified .jwmrc file, kept in an external location, which is copied over and reset at every restart of "X", from /root/Startup. If I want to modify the Menu, this is the file I edit.
It's a real 'hack', but it works for me! 
Mike.
@rHerrBert
PERFECT !!!
I'll do that this weekend, I'll be more relaxed.
Many thanks to you
How were the menus and subcategories put there in the first place? They're different for each new Puppy.
Well... the configuration files for newer Puppies may differ due to newer versions of JWM or woofCE or whatever reason...
and they may be located in different places and use different configuration tools like JWM-Desk or Puppy Desktop, respectively jwm_config.
Agreed.
But all Puppies i have used since i "switched" to Puppy Linux have one thing in common:
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_jwmrc
This file is used by fixmenus to generate menu in every Puppy...
So "hacking" the menu should work for any Puppy newer than at least released after 2015.
/root/.jwmrc contains this hint:
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<!-- IMPORTANT, ONLY EDIT /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc -->So i think we can feel free to edit this file to ANY of our likings
@bilou :-
Just for reference.....and a "demonstration".....my Multimedia menu - where I have the sub-menus as shown above - looks like this:-
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<Menu label="Multimedia" icon="multimedia24.png" height="24">
<Program label="AudioCardSelect" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/audiorecord.png">/root/my-applications/bin/audioselect.sh</Program>
<Program label="GXine" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gxine.png">/usr/bin/gxine</Program>
<Program label="MM_View" icon="fileview">mm_view</Program>
<Program label="MPlayer" icon="mplayer.png">gmplayer</Program>
<Program label="MuseScore" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/musescore.png">musescorechroot</Program>
<Program label="SMPlayer" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/smplayer.svg">smplayer</Program>
<Program label="VLC-Portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/vlc.png">/usr/bin/vlc</Program>
<Program label="Xine multimedia player" icon="xine.png">xinewrapper</Program>
<Separator/>
<Menu label="Video Edit Tools" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/VideoEditor.png">
<Program label="Avidemux-Portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/avidemux.png">/usr/bin/avidemux</Program>
<Program label="CinelerraGG Infinity" icon="cinelerra.svg">/usr/bin/cinelerra</Program>
<Program label="Flowblade-portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/flowblade.png">/usr/bin/flowblade</Program>
<Program label="LosslessCut-portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/losscut.png">/usr/bin/losscut</Program>
<Program label="Openshot-portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/openshot.png">/usr/bin/openshot</Program>
</Menu>
<Separator/>
<Menu label="Screen Capture Tools" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/VidCam.png">
<Program label="recordMyDesktop" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gtk-recordmydesktop.png">/usr/bin/gtk-recordmydesktop</Program>
<Program label="SimpleScreenRecorder" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/simplescreenrecorder.svg">simplescreenrecorder --logfile</Program>
<Program label="vokoscreen" icon="vokoscreen.xpm">vokoscreen</Program>
<Program label="WeX : Screen capture" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/wex.png">/root/CAPTURE/WeX</Program>
<Program label="XVidCap Screen Capture" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/xvidcap.png">/usr/bin/xvidcap</Program>
</Menu>
<Separator/>
<Menu label="Webcam Apps" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/VidCam4.png">
<Program label="guvcview" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/guvcview/guvcview.png">guvcview</Program>
<Program label="WebCamoid" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/webcamoid.png">/usr/bin/webcamoidchroot</Program>
</Menu>
<Separator/>
<Program label="Alsa Capture Gui v1" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/acap.png">alsacapgui</Program>
<Program label="Audacious" icon="audacious.svg">audacious</Program>
<Program label="Audacity" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/audacity.png">/mnt/sda3/SYSTEM/APPS/AppImages/64/Audacity64</Program>
<Program label="Bacon Recorder - Audio" icon="/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons/mini-clock.xpm">baconrecorder</Program>
<Program label="DeaDBeeF" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/deadbeef.svg">deadbeef</Program>
<Program label="DogRadio" icon="internetradio.png">dogradio</Program>
<Program label="FFConvert" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/ffconvert.png">/usr/bin/ffconvert</Program>
<Program label="GTK Youtube Viewer" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gtk-youtube-viewer.png">gtk-youtube-viewer</Program>
<Program label="GTK-YouTube-Updater" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/youtube.svg">/usr/bin/gtk-youtube-update</Program>
<Program label="Jajuk Jukebox" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/jajuk.png">/root/my-applications/bin/jajuk.sh</Program>
<Program label="LMMS-Portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/lmms.png">/usr/bin/lmms</Program>
<Program label="MultiCam-Portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/multicam.png">/usr/bin/multicam</Program>
<Program label="Nero4Linux" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/nerolinux.xpm">/usr/bin/nero</Program>
<Program label="NeroExpress" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/nerolinuxexpress.png">/usr/bin/neroexpress</Program>
<Program label="OcenAudio-Portable" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/ocenaudio.png">/usr/bin/ocenaudio</Program>
<Program label="Reaper" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/reaper.png">/root/my-applications/bin/Reaper</Program>
<Program label="RecordMyDesktop" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/gtk-recordmydesktop.png">/usr/bin/gtk-recordmydesktop</Program>
<Program label="ScreenStudio" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/screenstudio.png">/root/my-applications/bin/ScreenStudio</Program>
<Program label="SimpleAudioRecorder" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/record-button.png">/root/AudioRecord/GUI.sh</Program>
<Program label="Solo Java MP3 player" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/mp3-player.png">/root/my-applications/bin/SJmp3</Program>
<Program label="WinAmp" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/Winamp.png">/root/my-applications/bin/Winamp</Program>
<Program label="YRadio" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/internet_radio_48">yradio</Program>
<Program label="Asunder audio CD ripper" icon="asunder.png">asunder</Program>
<Program label="CD player/ripper (Pmusic)" icon="mini-cd.xpm">pmusic_CD </Program>
<Program label="Pcdripper CD song ripper" icon="mini-cdlabel.xpm">/usr/sbin/pcdripper</Program>
<Program label="Pmetatagger audio file tag editor" icon="mini-speaker.xpm">/usr/sbin/pmetatagger</Program>
<Program label="Pmusic -player -manager -grabber" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/pmusic.svg">pmusic</Program>
<Program label="Precord mp3,ogg,wav recorder/player" icon="mini-record.xpm">/usr/bin/precord</Program>
<Program label="Retrovol sound mixer" icon="mini-sound.xpm">retrovol</Program>
<Program label="mhWaveEdit audio recorder/editor" icon="mhwaveedit.xpm">mhwaveedit</Program>
<Program label="pCD CD-audio player" icon="mini-cd.xpm">pcd</Program>
<Program label="pEqualizer Graphical Equalizer" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/eq.png">/usr/local/pequalizer/pequalizer</Program>
<Separator/>
<Program label="ffplay-gtk Media Player" icon="ffplay-gtk.svg">ffplay-gtk</Program>
<Separator/>
<Program label="Burniso2cd burn iso file to CD/DVD" icon="mini-cd.xpm">burniso2cd</Program>
<Program label="ISOMaster iso file editor" icon="isomaster.png">isomaster</Program>
<Program label="Pburn CD/DVD/Blu-ray writer" icon="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/pburn.svg">pburn</Program>
<Program label="Pdvdrsab DVD rip/shrink/author/burn" icon="mini-cd.xpm">pdvdrsab</Program>
<Program label="PeasyDisc optical disc tools" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/peasydisc.png">peasydisc</Program>
<Separator/>
<Program label="FFConvert multimedia converter" icon="ffconvert.png">ffconvert</Program>
</Menu>Note where it changes from straight <Program> tags to a <Menu> tag.......and then has a bunch of <Program> tags inside the <Menu> tag. That's what creates the sub-menu.
May help, may not.
Mike.
OK. If you now would put this into /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, where it belongs, instead of /root.jwmrc, which you shouldn't touch, everything would be fine and you would not need to copy back and forth the .jwmrc file.
Here another old thread about this subject.
@MochiMoppel :-
Hello, Mochi.
No, I know you're not supposed to touch /root/.jwmrc.......that it's generated from /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc. So; you're saying it's possible to transplant that section into the _root_jwmrc file, as-is? I didn't think that could be done.
Where exactly in the file should it go? See, my downfall is not really understanding the intricacies of XML markup; I so often get things in not quite the right place, and then end up with chunks of the 'desktop' just MIA... 
And this is why I've used the 'hack' that I've been using till now.
I'm guessing here, but.....perhaps in the
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PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu.....section, up near the top? That IS only a guess... Or somewhere amongst /etc/xdg/menus?
I have never had issues with asking for help when I don't understand something. That's the idea here; we help each other out, and I don't mind admitting this has always appeared to be more your province than mine (or many other people). I know you've helped a LOT of folks out with this sort of stuff over the years.
Help would be appreciated here, too..... 
Mike.
@MochiMoppel :-
Um....o-kay. Let me see if I understand this correctly...
I've been reading rmcellig's saga (which you linked to). From what I can gather, you recommend doing what I want as a separate set of Menu entries, using the <include> tag for a separately-referenced file, yes?
Could I do this in such a way, so that a separately-referenced 'Multimedia.txt' file (containing my entire section as above) could replace the default
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PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-multimedia.menu....line, using the <include> tags? Does that even make sense?
(I agree with you about the documentation. There's not a lot of it, and what there IS is not easy to follow for those not familiar with it....)
Mike.
@MochiMoppel :-
Well, bless me. Like everything, once you know how, that was SO simple it was ridiculous.
To start with, I created a new directory at /etc/menu_files. Inside, I created a blank text file called multimedia.txt.
I copied the contents of the Multimedia section from my 'remote' .jwmrc file, and pasted them in this blank file. I then wrapped JWM <tags> around them.
Into /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, and the menu 'layout' section now looks like this:-
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<JWM>
<!-- version flag for rc.update -->
<!-- When updating change number here and in rc.update -->
<!-- XDG_JWMRC_VERSION_001 -->
<!-- IMPORTANT, ONLY EDIT /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc -->
<!-- jwm menu for puppy Linux -->
<RootMenu label="Menu" labeled="false" height="24" onroot="3">
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-desktop.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-system.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-setup.menu
<Separator/>
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-utility.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-filesystem.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-graphic.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-document.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-calculate.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-personal.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-network.menu
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-internet.menu
<Include>/etc/menu_files/multimedia.txt</Include>
PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-fun.menu
<Separator/>
<Program label="Find'N'Run" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/search.png">/usr/bin/findnrun</Program>
<Separator/>
<Program label="MenuQuickReset" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/fixmenus.png">/usr/local/bin/rebuild-menus.sh</Program>
<Separator/>
<Program label="Help" icon="help48.png">exec defaulthtmlviewer file:///usr/share/doc/index.html</Program>
<Separator/>
<Program label="LEAVE...." icon="shutdown48.png">/usr/sbin/logout_gui</Program>I've just replaced the line that reads
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PUPPYMENU jwm-xdgmenu /etc/xdg/menus/puppy-multimedia.menu.....with
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<Include>/etc/menu_files/multimedia.txt</Include>It works, Mochi. Thank you very much for the 'pointers' from that old linked thread from the Murga Forum. Like I said.....simple when you know how.
And the beauty of doing things this way is that you can modify whatever sections you want, simply by creating new text files and adding them in with the <Include> tags. Nice one!
Cheers!
Mike. 
@bilou :-
I think, if you follow my example of sub-menus up above, then read this link from the old forum - taking a look at Mochi's screenshot as example - then you ought to be able to achieve what you want.
Think of it as a 'crash course' in learning to write XML..!
Mike.
Thank you very much for your tutorial. Everything works perfectly. There is a very small error, which I solved with your other links.
In your menu (, the <JWM> tag is missing just before the menu.viewtopic.php?p=96041#p96041
Thank you, everyone for your feedback, have a great weekend.
PDF tutorial https://kdrive.infomaniak.com/app/share ... f9da2d4588
@bilou, Thank you, for sticking with it and for adding "Solved" to the thread title. Also for the .pdf tutorial. 