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Using https://github.com/dimkr/darls, a rebuilt from the ground up, Wayland-native remix of Vanilla Dpup 10.x with dwl, PipeWire, GNOME Software, yambar, foot, tofi and spacefm.

Works very nicely on this 8 years old laptop. Took the screenshots with the small 1366x768 panel, so they don't get too big. It's small and cramped with this resolution, multi-tasking is OK with <=3 applications in the same "workspace", unless I use my big external monitor.

It's already usable enough to allow me to continue the development from inside this distro, and I can even install and run Steam via Flatpak

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Using this right now on a Dell Precision M4600. Intel Core i7, 8gb RAM, nVidia Quadro 1000M.

Runs well, but a few remarks:

yambar font was tiny. I found the config file, but had to change font in order to make it bigger.
tofi will not launch anything. Started it from the terminal (tofi-run) but no error messages.
I did have problems with mouse selections on drop down menus, and with copy and paste between applications, but that has mysteriously gone away now.
The mouse has been taking a while to appear after the desktop appears (20 - 30 secs). I'll have to see if that persists, but has happened after several reboots or restarting the desktop (which I did when trying to increase the yambar font size).
The Puppy log-out dialog will not go away by pressing Esc. Have to restart graphical server or reboot to get rid of it.

Getting used to dwl. I've used tiling WMs before, but a bit out of practice, Anyway, this is a very interesting project. I've wanted to try out Wayland, and after having a shot at it with KISS linux, I'm glad someone else is doing the donkey work

Dang it @dimkr!

My hard drive is almost full and here you offer another too-cool-to-pass-up OS.

I'm especially gonna try this because of the tiling window manager, but also want to get a feel for wayland.

Tiling window managers are new to me, but they are right up my alley. I like predictable window placement and efficient use of screen space.

@Keef https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... fig.h#L121

These are the key bindings. Super+p to run tofi, Super+x to close a window.

@geo_c The default layout is the snail layout, from the snail patch (written by me). You can switch to other layouts if you want something more traditional like master/stack.

@dimkr I suppose you've noticed the post viewtopic.php?p=91534#p91534

Dear moderators, why can't I post screenshots from dpup with a tiled window manager here?

This thread already contains screenshots of distros other than Puppy (!!!), various desktops (especially XFCE) and window managers other than JWM.

What seems to be the problem?

rockedge wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:32 pm

What seems to be the problem?

My reply to that thread was split from that thread, and became this thread. And IMO that's unfair, because this is not the first time somebody replies there with something that that isn't exactly Puppy with JWM.

@dimkr The Show Us Your Desktop thread is for any desktop you are using or created. I feel like it could be any desktop one is using and feels the need to share how it looks. Might even be something from Microsoft if it's relevant in my opinion.

I find looking at different creations and assemblies of desktops encourages ideas and emulations.

P.S. missing so far is a good mainframe screenshot. Since I know that the mainframe is still in action and no insurance company on the planet can survive without one.

Question. Is HAL 9000 a mainframe or a cluster? Does an artificially intelligent machine like a HAL 9000 have a desktop interface at all?

I wrote the tiling layout, the dwl configuration, the yambar configuration, the tofi configuration and various scripts that tie everything together. I even chose colors and fonts. In many ways, I 'created' this desktop. I still don't see why my reply doesn't fit in a thread like this.

@dimkr I don't seem to be speaking your language.

I still don't see why my reply doesn't fit in a thread like this

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What?????????

Of course it does and I am saying it does. I don't understand now what the problem is.......again I am telling you it's OKAY.

Am I not writing and conveying thoughts clearly enough or you have no sense of humor or what is it?

Are we clear now that no one is persecuting you and you can post what ever it is???

I am the one that moved the post from show us your desktop and made a topic here of it.

Look at the first post in this topic:
viewtopic.php?p=91522#p91522

This was posted in show us your desktop.

To me it read like a topic about a new operating system.
What it was, how it worked, a download link for it, etc............

Much more than just an image of the desktop.

So I moved it and made a topic of it and posted it here:
viewforum.php?f=183
Because it says it is a remix of Vanilla Dpup.

I sent dimkr a PM telling him what I did and that show us your desktop is for displaying images of your desktop.
Not the place to provide download links or discuss a new operating system.
Just a place to show us what the desktop looks like.
A specific topic about a new operating system is what is needed to discuss the operating system.

I never said you could not post a desktop image.

rockedge wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:01 am

I am telling you it's OKAY.

I got the wrong impression, because you didn't move my reply back to the thread

bigpup wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:44 am

To me it read like a topic about a new operating system.

I understand your point of view, but when I look at other replies in that thread, many of them include the name of a non-Puppy distro and attractive screenshots.

I'm surprised to see how little extra text affects your judgement as a moderator, that's all.

because you didn't move my reply back to the thread

viewtopic.php?p=91534#p91534

Do you want to close or delete this topic?

I seem to be getting the idea that you do not want this topic?

That there should not be a topic specifically about DARLS?

@bigpup It's OK, you can keep the topic. Originally, I didn't want one, but this already happened.

We are here to help you if you want to continue developing DARLS

Wayland seems to be here to stay in Linux, so developing it's use in Puppy is maybe something that needs to be done

There does seem to be a lot of Puppy versions being worked on right now.

Maybe too many at one time

DARLS development marches on and now it's rebased against Debian testing (not bookworm), making it a variant of the Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x development builds and not a variant of the stable 10.0.x series. It's the same thing as 11.0.x now, but DARLS uses dwl instead of labwc, foot instead of lxterminal and yambar instead of sfwbar. This consolidation makes development easier (one thing to maintain, develop and test, not two) and makes the 11.0.x development builds more "dogfoodable", since I use something nearly identical as my daily driver.

All new features listed in viewtopic.php?p=101935#p101935 are now included in DARLS. Boot times in >= 10.0.85 should be super fast, RAM consumption is very low and the kernel is bumped from 6.1.x (what bookworm uses) to 6.5.x (what's currently in Debian testing).