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Managed to start the Haiku Live version from ISO in a QEMU machine hosted on F96-CE_4. Then ran the installer on the QEMU HDD and successfully full installed in the QEMU machine.

System rebooted into Haiku operating system and now beginning to explore the system to investigate file system layering that is needed for a frugal install in the FIrstRib method.

@rockedge

very cool! I love watching you work.

Might be able to have in this case a /upper_changes that is formatted as a BeOS file system. Like Puppy Linux savefile on NTFS partitions.

rockedge wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 2:07 am

Might be able to have in this case a /upper_changes that is formatted as a BeOS file system. Like Puppy Linux savefile on NTFS partitions.

Seems like a daunting task being that as @mikewalsh was saying, the filesystem has to be created from Haiku itself.

Edit: well on second thought I guess if you made the system files in the BeOS format, then had the operating system create an sfs in that format, could be workable.

@rockedge :-

I don't know if this might help, Erik. It's a rather old Haiku blog post, discussing Linux recognition of the BeFS file-system, going back some 12 years or so. A FUSE module is mentioned for enabling writing to BeFS; normal Linux behaviour, apparently, is to mark BeFS-formatted stuff as 'read-only'.....

(*shrug*)

https://www.haiku-os.org/articles/2011- ... le_system/

"Food for thought", perhaps..?

Mike.

Delving deeper into a Haiku QEMU machine I have found several utilities dealing with formatting partitions in BFS and that GParted CAN work with BFS filesystems!

This is interesting as the disk utilities may be useful in creating a BFS partition possibly in a chroot environment and thet GParted can handle BFS filesystems opens up some further avenues of exploration.

So far Haiku performs well in a QEMU machine. @wiak Here is the QEMU stanza I am using at the moment. Notice the -usbdevice tablet parameter. This deals with a double mouse cursor and I have to use this with F96-CE distro's running on QEMU VM's.

/usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64  -smp 4 -device ac97 -machine accel=kvm -m 4096 -cdrom "/mnt/home/haiku-r1beta4-x86_64-anyboot.iso" -hda "/root/.aqemu/Haiku_HDA.img" -boot once=d,menu=off -net nic -net user -rtc base=localtime -name "Haiku" -vnc 192.168.254.13:0 -cpu host -usb -usbdevice tablet $*

This is using a VNC and then used the Haiku installer to full install on the QEMU HDD.

a look at the file system:

If BeOS respects Linux security and symlinks (which is why we dont use MS's filesystems), then you should be able to save session activity in a folder without the efforts and potential support issue that would arise should you nave to manage saves in files in formats.

The advantage is file edits, if/when necessary, can be done from either the BeOS system or from Linux with no developer-user hardships.

Just a thought.