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Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:12 am
by amethyst

Recommendations?


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:59 pm
by amethyst
amethyst wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:12 am

Recommendations?

So what is it, no response?


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:32 pm
by Jasper

Just trying out Jammypup64 ................. not sure exactly what it is using atm re audio.

For my hardware it works OTB unlike FP64-96.

Very similar memory footprint when checked using HTOP as to my current OS approx 1.4GB when browsing.

I am not a power user, so this meets my needs with no input from me.

The PPM seems to work and I managed to get it updated straight-away.

Never could with FP64-95; most probably as I broke a number of the in-built compression options :oops:

Not a bad experience after all. With the help of members on the forum here, learned to build applications and most members are incredibly helpful and supportive. Always a positive experience here for me :thumbup2:

Loved the idea of @dimkr Vanilla pups, but realised that I needed more knowledge to get myself onto a stable footing.


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:17 pm
by peebee

S15Pup64
VoidPup64


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:09 am
by amethyst
peebee wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:17 pm

S15Pup64
VoidPup64

Thanks but no Ubuntu/Debian flavours? I think there is a market for it..Anyways, your 32-bit Jammy offering still has it (I think) so will probably download that at some point when Bionic gets too old. No need for upgrading to a 64-bit system really when having an old computer at this point in time as some of the top browsers are still released in 32-bit versions. BTW - Thanks for keeping the 32-bit line going.


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:50 am
by peebee
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:09 am
peebee wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:17 pm

S15Pup64
VoidPup64

Thanks but no Ubuntu/Debian flavours? I think there is a market for it..

Not from me - others are tackling these......... see puppy-linux-collection


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:01 am
by amethyst
peebee wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:50 am
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:09 am
peebee wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:17 pm

S15Pup64
VoidPup64

Thanks but no Ubuntu/Debian flavours? I think there is a market for it..

Not from me - others are tackling these......... see puppy-linux-collection

Unfortunately that list does not provide the crucial information I am looking for. I'm guessing the older 64-bit Fossapup meets my requirements. Anyways - I've just downloaded your LXDE sfs for Bionic to check it out...


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:56 am
by peebee
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:01 am

Unfortunately that list does not provide the crucial information I am looking for.

What is the crucial information that is missing?


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:24 am
by amethyst
peebee wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:56 am
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:01 am

Unfortunately that list does not provide the crucial information I am looking for.

What is the crucial information that is missing?

AUFS/apulse/JWM, did I misread something from the list. It doesn't say?????


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:01 am
by peebee
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:24 am
peebee wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:56 am
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:01 am

Unfortunately that list does not provide the crucial information I am looking for.

What is the crucial information that is missing?

AUFS/apulse/JWM, did I misread something from the list. It doesn't say?????

AUFS is there - hover over download column header - all AUFS unless says overlay

I guess you mean Alsa & JWM? That level of detail you have to visit the further detail links given.... but most are except VanillaDPup


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:11 am
by amethyst
peebee wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 10:01 am
amethyst wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 9:24 am
peebee wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 8:56 am

What is the crucial information that is missing?

AUFS/apulse/JWM, did I misread something from the list. It doesn't say?????

AUFS is there - hover over download column header - all AUFS unless says overlay

I guess you mean Alsa & JWM? That level of detail you have to visit the further detail links given.... but most are except VanillaDPup

I mean all 3. Hovering over gives links to pages, it doesn't say it's AUFS. Vanilla mentions overlay so the others are guesswork (not stipulated like the Vanilla entry).


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:10 pm
by mikeslr

amethyst, do try jrb's Jammy64pup, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 612#p81612. It is still jwm and still uses aufs*. All of the new Puppys except S15pup use pulse-audio. But I haven't had problems working with pulse-audio under jammy64pup. Learning how to use it took some doing. But pulse-audio --whether we like it or not-- seems to be the wave of the future. Once I figured out how to configure it** jammy64pup did save my settings. I've been able to use your nicOS-utilities-suite, PaDS, other common utilities like ListDD and the utilities I published here, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 513#p69513. Have also found some application for every major category.

jammy64pup is IMHO fully functional but still a 'work in progress'. Your insight would be helpful.

Currently, however, f96 is my daily driver.

-=-=--=-=
* IIRC, currently the stock kernel used by jammy64pup can --depending on the boot-argument-- use either AUFS or Overlays. It defaults to AUFS.
** Not difficult, just different. Actually, easier than Multiple-Soundcard-Wizard + Alsa.


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:38 am
by Jasper

@mikeslr

I did ask the question if Jammypup was using PulseAudio.

From the Pipewire website I read this:

  • Seamless support for PulseAudio, JACK, ALSA, and GStreamer applications.

It goes on to inform the reader that Pipewire will provide a core building block for the future of Linux application development alongside Wayland and Flatpak.

I have seen these applications mentioned here on the forum but have little knowledge myself. Only knowing that they correspond to video, audio and self-contained applications.


Re: Latest 64-bit AUFS/apulse/JWM distributions available?

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:43 am
by amethyst
mikeslr wrote: Wed Mar 22, 2023 11:10 pm

amethyst, do try jrb's Jammy64pup, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 612#p81612. It is still jwm and still uses aufs*. All of the new Puppys except S15pup use pulse-audio. But I haven't had problems working with pulse-audio under jammy64pup. Learning how to use it took some doing. But pulse-audio --whether we like it or not-- seems to be the wave of the future. Once I figured out how to configure it** jammy64pup did save my settings. I've been able to use your nicOS-utilities-suite, PaDS, other common utilities like ListDD and the utilities I published here, https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 513#p69513. Have also found some application for every major category.

jammy64pup is IMHO fully functional but still a 'work in progress'. Your insight would be helpful.

Currently, however, f96 is my daily driver.

-=-=--=-=
* IIRC, currently the stock kernel used by jammy64pup can --depending on the boot-argument-- use either AUFS or Overlays. It defaults to AUFS.
** Not difficult, just different. Actually, easier than Multiple-Soundcard-Wizard + Alsa.

Thanks, I'll probably change to 64-bit when Bionic 32 becomes obsolete. Availability of browsers and hardware will play a roll whether I will be moving on or not (my guess is this is still going be a long time). :P I've used pulse-audio before when I tested DPupBuster64 at one stage. Not too bad.