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Ok guys, so I'm very, very starting - just turned my USB into EasyOS (Dunfell 4.5.3) drive. I've started using Linux probably around 20 years ago, but just from time to time - I'm not an expert, just a casual Linux user, but recently I only used Puppy (I switched from Lubuntu few months ago). Few days ago I've found out about EasyOS, so I thought I'll give it a go, because I had to format my Puppy USB into EXT3 anyway (I've been told, on this forum, that the use of FAT partition is very limited - I couldn't expand the size of SAVE, Appimages didn't work directly from USB and SFS wouldn't load on start). So here I am. The first thing I've noticed - the WiFi setup is not over (a bit) complicated as it was in Puppy - it's straightforward on Windows, Ubuntu, Lubuntu and Antix, but on FossaPup64 9.5 f.e. you have to know where to type the password as there are 3 boxes IIRC. Well, tomorrow I'll check how it will be for cable connection as I had to do few more steps on Puppy to get on-line (again, all the others I mentioned previously connected automatically, while with Puppy I had to do some clicks - I admit it wasn't too complicated, but I'm curious how will that go).

Anyway, going back to the topic! The very first installation I do on fresh Windows and Linux is Vivaldi browser. On Puppy I downloaded a DEB package from official website (the "get Vivaldi" from Puppy app menu didn't work) and the installation was straightforward, but it didn't work here. I mean there was a "successful installation" notice, but it won't run where I click on the Vivaldi icon in the "internet" menu. Also, it won't show up in the "Default App Chooser". How to make it work?

Few weeks ago, while looking for help for Puppy I've found out there are other options for applications than installation. I've learned about SFS, Appimages and portables (I'm not sure about last one). Not sure what exactly are they, but I've been told they're better at least from the storage perspective. While trying to get Polish version of LibreOffice in Puppy I somehow got and SFS of it directly on my USB and it was running fine, so I have that SFS here and it's working fine as well. I couldn't find SFS for FreeCAD and ShotCut, but I've found Appimages and they're working fine as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've read somewhere in EasyOS instructions that the SFS are the recommended files here - is that correct? Shall I use SFS (or maybe Appimage) for Vivaldi instead of DEB install? If yes, where can I find more SFS'es (would be nice to get OBS as well)?

Btw, where's the magnifying glass (it was next to MENU in Puppy)? ;(((
This was very useful for a Linux newbie like me. Has it been hidden somewhere?

Last question is how to add shortcuts on the bar (taskbar?) next to the start MENU (e.g. file manager, browser, shutdown button)?

EasyOS looks quite cool so far, thanks!
Damian

P.S.
Where do I check my EasyOS version?

I was trying # su apt-get -y install ./vivaldi*.deb but it won't work as well.

Few more comments! I really like the password setup on the first start and then typing password on system load.

Another bug on Puppy was the Keyboard Layout changed back to default us-English (from Polish) every time I run my Puppy USB on different PC, but it didn't change if I restarted the same PC. Tomorrow I'll check Easy on a different PC - let's find out! ;D
Oh, yes, and the volume freaked out when I connected my headphones and later disconnected them. I had to run my previous Puppy save to compare volume settings and one drop-down list wasn't set as before - that was the cause. Can I keep my older save files on EasyOS and replace then when I screw something up as I did on Puppy? Where is the EasyOS save? I think it was mentioned somewhere in tutorial, but I cannot find it now :/

My USB is 30GB and I'm pretty sure on the first run of EasyOS the storage was 4,4GB personal & 4,4GB free, but on the second and third it's 5,5/5,4GB - is that possible? I'm not 100% sure it was like this, but I think it was. Anyway

Oh, noooooo - DEL isn't for removing files, it's Ctrl+X, why, oh why... ;P
I also got used to Ctrl+Alt+V in terminal. Any reason to change all that? Just being curious
F2 is not for rename file?! What is the keyboard shortcut for this then?
A pity Alt+Tab is going through all opened windows, not just two recent ones (like in Windows or Ubuntu).

The icon on the tray got very tiny. I mean the Firefox icon was very wide, from left to right on the whole bar and now its tiny little square. I was trying few stuff in JWMdesk, but I'm pretty sure I reverted all of them...

And this keep changes back to "center" after applying and quitting.

do I always need to know the exact name of app?

Keef wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:59 pm pRun should do what you want, and offer matches as you type (auto-completion). For lmarbles, I just type 'lm'.

BarryK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:06 am

pRun finds executables. In the case of LibreOffice, they are 'swriter' 'soffice' etc.

Yesterday I was trying to find LibreOffice by typing soffice, but it didn't work, but it finds swriter and scalc. Is it possible to make pRun finding executables, but not only by typing the exact name from the very first letter, but also if I only type some part of the name, e.g. it finds Audacious if I type ciou only (as well as everything else with the name including ciou).

BarryK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:06 am

Note, you can find a list of all files an app has installed, in /root/.packages/built-in

Do you mean that bunch of text files in /root/.packages/builtin_files/ ???
There are no swriter or scalc there.

szept wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:59 am

Do you mean that bunch of text files in /root/.packages/builtin_files/ ???
There are no swriter or scalc there.

Look in /root/.packages/builtin_files/libreoffice

Try using the wildcard character '*' - e.g '*cio'.

Ok, so I've discovered that the crazy desktop issue as well as ALT-key issue (ALT working as ENTER key) are gone after the very first restart of EasyOS (same happens to Puppy F96-CE), when the session save files is created. Hence, I'm getting the 5.1 now - thanks for Vivaldi!!!

BarryK wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:14 am

Look in /root/.packages/builtin_files/libreoffice

Ok, so it's there

Keef wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:18 pm

Try using the wildcard character '*' - e.g '*cio'.

That's exactly was I was looking for!!!!!!! Thanks