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KLA-OT2baseCE-1.1 (766 MiB)
ISO:
https://archive.org/download/20230225_2 ... CE-1.1.iso
SHA1-MD5.txt:
https://archive.org/download/20230225_2 ... CE-1.1.txt

Added modification of wd_timezone , using --list thanks @fredx181 . also added automatic setting of the time zone when connected to the Internet.
Added many Openbox themes, as well as a light theme.other improvements and fixes.

NEW: New FR initrd.gz version 7.0.1 rc1 released on March 09, 2023; Includes rolling update of Arch Linux packages dated March 14, 2023.

INCLUDES small but effective 'Eolie' Internet browser.
Regardng Internet browser.
I see no point in bloating a base iso with any large browser users may well not want.
Since fully-Arch-Linux-compatible KLA-OT2baseCE-1.1 comes with official and complete pacman package manager (think of it like Quickpet...).
To install Firefox or Chromium, you simply need to open a terminal and (assuming you logged in as user root) enter command:

pacman -S firefox

pacman -S chromium

QEMU :
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2G -vga std -smp 2 -device AC97 -cdrom /root/Downloads/KLA-OT2baseCE-1.1.iso

Sofiya wrote:

You can also download the image from here, I think the download speed should be higher here.
ISO:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tcRtcM ... share_link

Much better Indeed, as mentioned before, download speed from archive.org is very slow (for me at least).

It's been said that “graphical user interfaces make easy tasks easy, while command line interfaces make difficult tasks possible” and this is still very true today.

Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
...
Requirements
The following directories, or symbolic links to directories, are required in /.

Directory	Description
bin	Essential command binaries
boot	Static files of the boot loader
dev	Device files
etc	Host-specific system configuration
lib	Essential shared libraries and kernel modules
media	Mount point for removeable media
mnt	Mount point for mounting a filesystem temporarily
opt	Add-on application software packages
sbin	Essential system binaries
srv	Data for services provided by this system
tmp	Temporary files
usr	Secondary hierarchy
var	Variable data
Each directory listed above is specified in detail in separate subsections below. /usr and /var each have a complete section in this document due to the complexity of those directories.

Though the ideal is that no use of command line should be required by the majority of users (or at least the distro should end up catering as best it can for that scenario),

set the keyboard to your country
go to /root/.config/openbox/autostart

in autostart 17 line where " us,ru " write down your "uk,us " .
toggle shift+ alt ___ restart required x

keniv wrote:...
I am note trying to criticise developers of these OSs. They are doing something I cannot do myself and I am very grateful for their efforts which is something that I don't think is said enough in this forum but I would also like to say that as a member of this forum with little knowledge of the command line or how these OSs are put together that there must be a place for me and those like me to help. I think we need some honesty as to where in the development this can take place and whether a particular OS would be more suited to more knowledgeable linux users. I can only say that doing what I've done over the last days with no success is just demotivating. I am not trying to be controversial here. I am simply expressing an opinion. I may be the only member of this forum that holds this opinion.
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keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:06 am I downloaded the 1.1 version yesterday but I have not bothered to install it. This is largely because I have been trying to use v 1.0 now for several days and I still have not managed either to set up my time zone or my keyboard.

Can't say more about keyboard. No utility (other than commandline) is currently provided to change keyboard type from English/US (the default) to anything else - so I've no idea what you need or if your system has issues in that regard more generally. Definitely best you try a different distro - no point fighting what isn't working for you.

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:44 pm @wiak

Can't say more about keyboard. No utility (other than commandline) is currently provided to change keyboard type from English/US (the default) to anything else - so I've no idea what you need or if your system has issues in that regard more generally. Definitely best you try a different distro - no point fighting what isn't working for you.

@Sofiya provided a fix for the keyboard setting here https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 8&start=20 9th post down. Don't know if you've already seen it. I have not tried it yet.

Ken.

Sofiya wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:51 pm @keniv
provide a terminal output where your keyboard works properly

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setxkbmap -print -verbose 10 

# setxkbmap -print -verbose 10
Setting verbose level to 10
locale is C
Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev...
Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev...
Success.
Applied rules from evdev:
rules:      evdev
model:      pc105
layout:     us
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwerty)
types:      complete
compat:     complete
symbols:    pc+us+inet(evdev)
geometry:   pc(pc105)
xkb_keymap {
	xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)"	};
	xkb_types     { include "complete"	};
	xkb_compat    { include "complete"	};
	xkb_symbols   { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)"	};
	xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"	};
};

I agree that essential things like keyboard choice, timezone setup etc... should be easy to do, without terminal commands, so you're not alone.

Yes, sounds like you are best just to give up on it.

Actually, another possibility is that you try DebianDog of some flavour or other.

Sofiya wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:15 pm Is this the output from Puppy where your keyboard works or is this an exhaust from KLA-OT2baseCE ,,?

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:30 pm

Sofiya wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:15 pm Is this the output from Puppy where your keyboard works or is this an exhaust from KLA-OT2baseCE ,,?

No I think I have misunderstood you. I will provide an output from a pup where the keyboard is working as a UK keyboard. I'll get back to you.

Ken.

# Set keyboard settings
setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout gb -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:26 pm @fredx181

I agree that essential things like keyboard choice, timezone setup etc... should be easy to do, without terminal commands, so you're not alone.

Thanks for that. I seem also to remember some discussion on OSs providing essential thinks like a basic browser. I think a GUI to set up the timezone and the keyboard would also fall into this category.

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:40 pm @Sofiya
OK I'm in F96-CE_2. The keyboard works as a UK keyboard. Below is the output from the terminal.

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locale is C
Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev...
Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev...
Success.
Applied rules from evdev:
rules:      evdev
model:      pc104
layout:     gb
options:    terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,keypad:pointerkeys
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwerty)
types:      complete
compat:     complete
symbols:    pc+gb+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)+keypad(pointerkeys)
geometry:   pc(pc104)
xkb_keymap {
	xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)"	};
	xkb_types     { include "complete"	};
	xkb_compat    { include "complete"	};
	xkb_symbols   { include "pc+gb+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)+keypad(pointerkeys)"	};
	xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc104)"	};
};

Can you confirm this is what you wanted?

Ken.

# Set keyboard settings
setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout gb -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,keypad:pointerkeys &

Sofiya wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:35 pm

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:30 pm

Sofiya wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:15 pm Is this the output from Puppy where your keyboard works or is this an exhaust from KLA-OT2baseCE ,,?

No I think I have misunderstood you. I will provide an output from a pup where the keyboard is working as a UK keyboard. I'll get back to you.

Ken.

your line 17 should be like this

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setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant , -option grp:alt_shift_toggle

setxkbmap -layout uk -variant -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:51 pm

Sofiya wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:35 pm

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:30 pm
No I think I have misunderstood you. I will provide an output from a pup where the keyboard is working as a UK keyboard. I'll get back to you.

Ken.

your line 17 should be like this

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setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout us -variant , -option grp:alt_shift_toggle

This is my line 17 but remember it has been edited based on your suggestion in an earlier post.

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setxkbmap -layout uk -variant -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

I believe that where I added uk previously contained ru, us.

Ken.

# Set keyboard settings
setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout gb -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,keypad:pointerkeys &

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:43 pm @Sofiya
In order to give this the best chance of working I have made a new clean frugal install of v 1.1. This has fixed the problem with the timezone in that the time and date are now showing correctly.
I also changed the code in /root/.config/openbox/autostart to that which you recomended i.e.

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setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout gb -variant -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp &

However, this has not changed the keyboard to a UK keyboard and @ and " are still reversed.
I ran setxkbmap -print -verbose 10 again in a terminal and the output is shown below.

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# setxkbmap -print -verbose 10
Setting verbose level to 10
locale is C
Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev...
Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev...
Success.
Applied rules from evdev:
rules:      evdev
model:      pc105
layout:     us
Trying to build keymap using the following components:
keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwerty)
types:      complete
compat:     complete
symbols:    pc+us+inet(evdev)
geometry:   pc(pc105)
xkb_keymap {
	xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)"	};
	xkb_types     { include "complete"	};
	xkb_compat    { include "complete"	};
	xkb_symbols   { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)"	};
	xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"	};
};

I checked /root/.config/openbox/autostart line 17 after restarting x to make sure the change I had made had been retained and it had so I don't know where we go from here. I wonder if I can ask if anybody else has been able to set their keyboard to a UK or GB keyboard.

Regards,

Ken.

you didn't Restart X

keniv wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:15 pm

@Sofiya

you didn't Restart X

I did restart x. I used Menu>RstartX. This is the way I've always restarted x. Have I to restart x in some other way?

Ken.

1)Let's set your own language in (/etc/locale.conf) - Lang = en_gb.utf -8

2)choose your own language in (/etc/locale.gen ) - #en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 change to en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8

3) Dial in the terminal - locale-gen

4)

# Set keyboard settings
setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout gb variant "" -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,keypad:pointerkeys &

5) Restart X

fredx181 wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:42 pm Can't see what locale set has to do with keyboard layout, but perhaps I'm missing something