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winegui only has unsypportedm obsolete IE browser, needsfiredox or brave, but neither will install.

boof wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 pm

winegui only has unsypportedm obsolete IE browser, needsfiredox or brave, but neither will install.

Install the linux versions of the browsers.

ditto what amethyst wrote. When you run wine it runs under Linux. You can easily run a Linux Web-browser while running wine in a different window.

But which wine are you running?

Windows web-browsers aren't safe under wine as wine provides no protection on its own. But if you can find any web-browser which ran under XP, it can be installed and run from a wine-prefix. The portable firefox version 51 from here, https://sourceforge.net/projects/portab ... ble%20Ed./ --maybe even some newer ones-- may work.

According to smallhagrid, http://kmeleonbrowser.org/forum/read.ph ... r%20Vista., Mypal 27.8.3 worked three years ago. I can't find 'old versions'. But the latest can be obtained here, https://www.mypal-browser.org/

i don't understand. winegui allows a win10 configuration, but not a win 10 browser? i need to use a win compat browser to download win files-they won't load into other systems. IE is utterly obsolete and thus useless. old win versions are unsupported on the 'net. i set up this laptop specifically to run these files, and urbtelling me i HAVE to reinstall win 10 on it just to run these files, which might run on 2000, because AFAIR, that's the default church wide OS for meeting houses. Customised church software does local weekly membership updates and finances to C.H.Q. local computers can run all church software, compatability wise, if they have authority. user authority is tightly controlled. , and local download quotas are small, to lower costs. member wifi access is heavily regulated. members have long, sad histories of abusing free access with non-church activity.. church leaders are mindful of the widow's mites they collect, and spend respectfully.

i need to use a win compat browser to download win files-they won't load into other systems.

What does the downloading of any file have to do with running it? Sure, if you download a windows program, you need WINE to use it in a Linux environment but that has nothing to do with the download process. Why would you want to run a Windows version of a browser in WINE when it has a Linux version especially compiled for use with Linux? The Linux version of the application will ALWAYS run better on a Linux operating system. WINE will not run ALL Windows programs because it is not a Windows Operating system in itself. It just provides the framework to run some Windows programs in Linux. I don't think you will ever have a WINE version which will be able to run internet explorer for example. From my re-collection IE was such an integral part of the Windows operating system that it depended on many components of the Windows operating system to run. WINE does not have all these components, it's not an operating system.

Is it because your windows programme needs to interface with a browser? (or vice versa) i.e it expects explorer?
Have you tried Portable edge browser to see if that helps?

i've set winegui to win10.
some of my software has live feed needs.
i don't know enough to really explain further. I'm not a programmer. I'm an out of date hardware specialist, with no commercial experience. Many younger people can now buy off the shelf what I'm trained to design, build and test from 1st principles. I'm virtually obsoleted,unless someone want's customized cct boards. My detailed knowledge is no longer needed at an intense level, there are cheaper sources than me readily avail. and I haven't kept up. As my late bro. would say, <Any fool can do it>.

PLEASE ANSWER QUESTIONS PEOPLE ASK

Don't expect us to remember what you wrote on a different thread. There are thousands of people asking questions, each with a different set up.

I asked which Wine were you using. I'll ask it again.
(a) which Wine are you using?
Now I'll also ask:
(b) Is your computer capable of running a 64-bit Linux?
(c) Which Puppy are you running?
(d) Why did you configure Wine as Windows 10?
Phil_54 asked:
(e) Have you tried Portable edge browser to see if that helps?

If your computer is capable of running a 64-bit Puppy and if you are running a 64-bit Puppy, and you have to run a Windows 10 web-browser, then (untested by me):

Use MikeWalsh's portable wine employing the 5.11 AppImage you can download from here, https://mega.nz/folder/uOAAnJwK#1UuLhPF5dDisRgS5xNJdQA. mega.nz sometime balks at palemoon. Use firefox or google-chrome or a chrome clone to do the download. It arrives as a tar.gz. Right-Click it and extract the portable folder. Put that folder on the same partition as your Puppy. Within the extracted folder will be a script named 'WINE-Link'. Left-Click it to create a Wine-prefix. Then try one of the portable-web-browsers discussed below. This version of Wine runs both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows programs. But not all.

Download one or several portable web-browsers from here, https://portableapps.com/apps/internet. I'd try Google-Chrome and Mozilla-firefox first: most likely to function, but may be more RAM demanding. Their version numbers tell me they are up to date and almost certainly 64-bit. IIRC, Google-Chrome no longer publishes 32-bit.

If any web-browser works, within the portable-wine folder you'll see a script named menuadd which will create menu-entries.

Provide SPECIFIC feed-back if you have questions or run into problems. What did you do? What do you see when you did it?

HI. I'm the creator of WineGUI. My name is Melroy van den Berg.

WineGUI is used to run Windows Native applications under Linux. However if you wan to browse the internet via a web browser with Puppy Linux, you should not try to use Wine. Instead, just install Firefox for example on Puppy Linux.

The usage of using WineGUI would be if you want to play Windows games like Age of Empires, Need for Speed 3, Halo CE. These are examples of games you might want to try to get it running under Wine (using WineGUI). Which depending on the game / app needs often additional configurations. Like installing DXVK (for MS DirectX support using Vulkan API). But I digress....

In your case, just browsing the web. Use a Linux native application which are available in the Puppy Package Manager (like Firefox).

Hallo, @melroy89 .....and to the "kennels".

@boof :-

From the sound of things, your best bet would be to run a Linux browser - I recommend either Chrome or one of the 'clones' (like Slimjet, Iron, Brave, MSEdge,etc)......and having got it up-and-running, what you then need to do is to install a "user-agent" extension. There's several available in the Chrome Web Store.

These will allow you to 'fool' any web-sites/other online entities you interact with into thinking that you're running the Windows version of your browser from inside Windows itself. Thus, you should be able to make use of any Windows-specific feeds - or whatever - in your browser. The better ones will let you set them up to emulate almost ANY browser/OS combination.

However, if the online entity you're using expects to find a Windows file-system layout (which to my way of thinking is a total mess, compared to the logical layout used by Linux), then you are going to be S.O.L, my friend. There's only so much WINE is capable of.......and trying to emulate totally different hardware is a wee bit beyond it.

Mike.

It's been a year, and NO RESPONSE FROM BOOF! This is about normal for boof though...perhaps the thread should be closed?
Wiz

@Wiz57 :-

Oh, balderdash! My bad; never noticed the date.....

Whoops!

Mike.