S15Pup - Slackware-15.0 Woof-CE builds

[peebee]

This is a bug in ROX-Filer, fixed in 2021 - https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/r ... ee728d5f2e, but S15Pup uses an old ROX-Filer .pet without this fix.

rox-filer has been changed to a petbuild for future S15Pup builds

see: https://github.com/peabee/releases/releases 231002

[greengeek]

Hi peebee, I am trialling Spup15-64bit and struggling with utilities that require Python3

I could not find python3 in the PPM or in the devx.

Do you have any idea if the S15 64bit pup is suitable for software using Python3? cheers!

[OscarTalks]

I could not find python3 in the PPM or in the devx.

There is this one in the "patches" Slackware repo:-
https://packages.slackware.com/?r=slack ... ck15.0.txz
Which should be better than the 3.9.10 in the original Slackware64-15.0 repo
I would expect it to show up in PPM but I am not in S15Pup at the moment
EDIT- The above package shows as "already installed" so I wonder exactly what problem you are seeing?

[peebee]

https://slackware.pkgs.org/15.0/slackwa ... 0.txz.html

https://slackware.uk/slackware/slackwar ... ck15.0.txz

[OscarTalks]

Python3-3.9.18 is in the devx of S15Pup
With devx loaded I just did a test of yt-dlp downloader which depends on python3 and it worked OK

[greengeek]

Python3-3.9.18 is in the devx of S15Pup
With devx loaded I just did a test of yt-dlp downloader which depends on python3 and it worked OK

Where within the devx are you seeing it? I see /usr/include/python2.7 but not 3.x

I will try with the python3 links peebee and yourself have posted and see how i go...

Cheers!

[OscarTalks]

Where within the devx are you seeing it? I see /usr/include/python2.7 but not 3.x
I will try with the python3 links peebee and yourself have posted and see how i go

Stuff under /usr/include will be headers (for compiling), not executables.
Python3 executable is /usr/bin/python3.9 with /usr/bin/python3 being a symlink to it

There is also a legacy executable at /usr/bin/python2.7 with /usr/bin/python2 being a symlink to that.
With devx loaded, all of these will appear in system.
One thing to be aware of is that /usr/bin/python (without any number suffix) is a symlink to python2.7 and not python3.9

So if you have some program which is attempting to call simply "python"
It will be offered python2 and not python3 which may not work.
If you discover (or suspect) that this is happening, try deleting /usr/bin/python and re-creating it as a symlink to /usr/bin/python3.9

[Clarity]

@OscarTalks give excellent guidance.

Maybe its time to move all new forum Slacks v15s with python to v3.xx+ and move on from old v2 to avoid this confusion that continues to hang around...if possible.

[OscarTalks]

I have encountered an issue with S15Pup
Experimenting with the Private Internet Access app I found that while it works in most other recent 64bit Pups, in S15Pup there is an undefined symbol error relating to Qt5 libraries that were mismatched with something.
viewtopic.php?p=101140#p101140

Later experimenting with latest Linphone-desktop appimage I was getting exactly the same error, again with Qt5 libraries being unhappy.
Searching the error I discovered that it relates to the ICU libraries
When the jump in Slackware from 14.2 to 15.0 was made, the ICU libraries version number went up from 56 to 69, so the real libraries are all 69 but we have some symlinks with the number 56 in /usr/lib64
So I found that deleting the libicu*56 symlinks fixed the problem and allowed the 2 programs to run
Then I used checkdeps -system to try to figure out if deleting them had broken anything (caused missing dependencies)
Turns out the only thing that needs 2 of those symlinks is osmo which was compiled in an earlier Slackware Pup
So I grabbed the osmo-0.2.10 patched source package from ibiblio and compiled it in S15Pup. Now everything is working.

Not sure if this is something which should be addressed in the build recipe, but I think that deleting those (around 4) symlinks and re-compiling osmo might be worth doing as there may be other things containing Qt5 which would be affected in the same way.

[peebee]

So I found that deleting the libicu*56 symlinks fixed the problem and allowed the 2 programs to run

Thanks @OscarTalks

Fixed by: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 94a616b62c

see:
https://github.com/peabee/releases/rele ... ase-231017

[OscarTalks]

Fixed by: https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 94a616b62c
see:
https://github.com/peabee/releases/rele ... ase-231017

Just to confirm that in S15Pup64 231017
Builtin osmo-0.4.4
Private Internet Access VPN client .pet
Linphone-desktop version 512 AppImage
All 3 programs start and run OK now.

[mmcdonald21]

Hi, Been using this version for a few months. Downloaded ISO from Puppy ISO about page. Updated the Puppy Packagemanager
works well. Got DOSBox, Win8 and Regina REX working. Really like this version of puppy.

Problem: So me pets while successfully installing do not work.
BleachBit and Audacious specifically. Both install without missing libraries or messages.
However when clicking on menu item for each, nothing happens.
Don't know why the pets do not work. Any ideas?

CPU: Processor Name Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70GHz
Memory: 8GB Ram
Personal Storage File:
Name /Slacko64/s15pup64save.4fs
Total Size 5120 MB
Free Space 2077 MB
▶—— Distro Specifications ——◀

Operating System:
Distro Name S15Pup64 22.12 (x86_64)
Woof-CE Build testing;9f9c0dc;2023-02-10 10:09:08 +0000
Woof Version 9
Binary Base slackware64
Distro Base 15.0
Distro Date Feb 2023
User Session x11
Window Manager JWM v2.4.3
Desktop Start xwin jwm

[mmcdonald21]

S15pup64:

YASSM Samba Share search is unable to fine Shars on the same network.

Bionic YASSM Samba Share search works perfectly on same computer, same network.

Another pet that downloads/installs without error but does not work.

Thanks.

[peebee]

Hi @mmcdonald21

You need to run each app in a terminal and see what errors are reported - all the apps you mention are large ones that probably have missing dependencies..... maybe Qt5........ and others

Cheers!

[Clarity]

S15pup64: ... is unable to fine Shars on the same network ...

In a terminal, does "findsmb" list your LAN PCs that are sharing shares?

Curious

[OscarTalks]

Problem: So me pets while successfully installing do not work.
BleachBit and Audacious specifically. Both install without missing libraries or messages.
However when clicking on menu item for each, nothing happens.
Don't know why the pets do not work. Any ideas?

This version of Audacious was compiled and tested in S15Pup64 so should work fine. If it doesn't do so then the problem would be caused by changes you have made to your system:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/audaciou ... 4-s15p.pet
If you installed a different version, uninstall that first and then try this one instead.

[mmcdonald21]

Downloaded your Audacious pet, it installed and works! Thanks much.

[mmcdonald21]

Hi all,
Thank you for the ideas.

Still have not gotten to YASSM to work properly nor have I been able to get any of the SAMBA tools to work including findsmb. Have not been able to get ROX network access to work either

DOSBox, Web Browsers work flawlessly.

I will install SC15pup64 clean and start troubleshooting leaving out Wine which I think is causing issues behind the scenes.

At this point I am shifting back to Fossapup64 for my day to day driver which is working flawlessly. Not giving up on SC15pup64 just cant roll it out till I figure out why so many things don't work on this laptop.

Thanks for all your help!

[Clarity]

Hello @mmcdonald21

Is the SC15..., you mention, being created via WoofCE or from a remaster of S15... from @peebee?

Curious

[mmcdonald21]

The SC15pup64 is the iso on https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/

Using findsmb returns:

findsmb

Code: Select all

                            *=DMB
                            +=LMB

IP ADDR NETBIOS NAME WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION

I finally remembered mount command: mount -t cifs -o vers=1.0 /ip/share /mnt/wd
which works so I have access to the 12TB NTFS drive.

Fossapup64 YASSM 4.7 and Bionicpup64 YASSM 2.7 find the shares every time. Something is missing in SC15pup but my skills are not sufficient to determine what is needed.

thanks to all!

[Clarity]

The SC15pup64 is the iso on https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/ ...

This is the latest WoofCE ISO, from the S15Pup64 author, where those problems do not exist. It is dated 24-02-23 and is here. <=== click
For me, SAMBA, findsmb, and mounts work as expected.

Does this clears the problems?

[Clarity]

@peebee is there a Conky for this Slackware variant you can recommend? How to get it?

[peebee]

@peebee is there a Conky for this Slackware variant you can recommend? How to get it?

Maybe:
https://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/p ... x86_64.pet
??

[Clarity]

Help, please.

This may have been answered before, but I cannot determine where in the PUP Control Panel that I can use to set the tray-taskbar? I need to add more virtual desktop than the OOTB 3, and to control hide/no-hide feature.

Also need to install BTOP and TLDR...not found in package-manager

Curious

Edit: I just found a BTOP PET from January. Dont remember where it was gotten. And "findsmb" is working in this ISO v0413

[one]

Help, please.

This may have been answered before, but I cannot determine where in the PUP Control Panel that I can use to set the tray-taskbar? I need to add more virtual desktop than the OOTB 3, and to control hide/no-hide feature.
[...]

Hi @Clarity,

go to Applications>Desktop>pTheme>Tray preset. Click the "More"-button --> Tray Configuration will be loaded --> there you can "Setup Tray 1 and 2" and also add more "Desktops".

peace