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Mouse pointer erratic in XenialPup 7.0.9

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:08 am
by Phet-Thailand

I have installed XenialPup 7.0.9 on a new thumb drive. All worked well, even connecting to the Internet via Frisbee UNTIL a short while later, when the mouse pointer begins to act mischievously with some of the following characteristics:

1) dead in its tracks;
2) not responding to my mouse control movements;
3) while enlarging a window, the pointer changes to an underscore with a downward arrow above the underscore and
4) jumps to different parts of the screen, sits idle for a while, then jumps elsewhere!

All of this makes it impossible to place the cursor where I want it to be, i.e. on the status bar menu to shut down!

Most inconvenient indeed! Would greatly appreciate some guidance on how to train the mouse pointer to follow the mouse controls as well as getting to know what keyboard commands would allow the shutting down of Xenial once the mouse pointer begins its out-of-control tantrum(s).


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:21 am
by ozsouth

@Phet-Thailand - turning off mouse acceleration may help. In a terminal, run: xset m 0 (that's a zero, not an O). If it works, you can put a script in /root/Startup.


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:30 am
by Wiz57

Need a bit more information to get a best answer...particularly is this a USB connected mouse? Or perhaps the trackpad on
a laptop? IF USB connected it could be your computer not being able to use both the USB drive and the mouse at the same
time. If a laptop with trackpad, perhaps the sensitivity on the trackpad is set too high?
Check under the Menu, in Utility, then PupControl...there should be a section dealing with your mouse/trackpad/keyboard.
Wiz


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:03 am
by Phet-Thailand

For ozsouth: Doing what you suggest is not possible as the pointer eventually just disappears. So right now, I have a Xenial Puppy screen stuck in an Intrnet connection with no mouse pointer to be seen at all. That's why I also requested some possible keyboard entries which could quit the Xenial Pup app. Are there such keyboard shortcuts?


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:40 am
by Phet-Thailand

For Wiz57: The mouse I am using is a USB model, which works just fine when I boot into Windows. Why it would not work when using a USB port with a distro doesn't seem very logical to me. But of course that is why I am contacting the advanced users for some assistance. Have you some keyboard shortcuts to use when the pointer becomes quite unruly and does not respond to the mouse commands? At that time, I have no correct way to exit the distro application as the pointer is malfunctioning.


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:49 am
by geo_c
Phet-Thailand wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:03 am

For ozsouth: Doing what you suggest is not possible as the pointer eventually just disappears. So right now, I have a Xenial Puppy screen stuck in an Intrnet connection with no mouse pointer to be seen at all. That's why I also requested some possible keyboard entries which could quit the Xenial Pup app. Are there such keyboard shortcuts?

If you can get to a terminal (on Fossapup its super+t -super meaning the start key) then you should be able to type poweroff to shut down.

My guess is the usb port is conflicting with the mouse if the mouse is usb. If not, if it's a laptop, some laptop mousepads don't play well with certain included drivers, or lack of them. Unfortunately I don't know much about troubleshooting drivers and modules.


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:41 am
by wiak

There are a few reports of keyboard/mouse irratic/freezing behaviour when using official Ubuntu XenialXerus distro. Do any of the following links to such reports help. No need for sudo command in examples of course since always root user in standard Pups:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/772056/ ... nial-xerus

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388336

related to above: https://askubuntu.com/questions/848698/ ... nux-distro

This link describes similar bug but doesn't provide solution:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1575872

The fact your mouse doesn't always go completely dead makes issue sound different though - bad or corrupted driver perhaps or different usb-related module needing loaded or conflicting with something else.


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:21 am
by ozsouth

@Phet-Thailand - control-alt-backspace exits the Xwindow to a command prompt (xwin starts Xwindow again).


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:59 am
by wiak

Also probably best you give more information (specs of) your computer and the usb ports being used (usb2 usb3 or what). Different usb ports rely on different driver modules, which need kernel support.


Re: An erratic mouse pointer

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:25 am
by mikewalsh

@Phet-Thailand :-

Just out of curiosity, why have you decided to use Xenialpup 7.0.9? That was one of the early "beta" development versions, and from what I recall this WAS one of the issues with it. I'm surprised no-one else has picked up on this point.

If you want to use Xenialpup (32-bit?), the final release was Xenialpup 7.5. It's a good Puppy - I use it myself, amongst many others - stable and thoroughly well-sorted. You should be able to find it here:-

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/32/

Try the "finished product", and see if you still have the same problem. If so, we'll take it from there, as it's then more likely we can concentrate on the hardware/firmware side of things instead. It definitely won't be the fault of the Puppy.

As wiak has requested, more detailed information on your computer will be useful, please.

Mike. ;)


Re: Mouse pointer erratic in XenialPup 7.0.9

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:26 am
by April

Yes 7.5 is a better option .

Just yesterday I threw away a cheap pink mouse because it did exactly that .
Try another mouse .