F96_4-CE 4th Gen Dev Tester with a New Kernel 6.0.9 Made for F96

[rockedge]

F96_4-CE has a brand new kernel 6.0.9 compiled last night. The fixes from @radky 's F96_3-radkyCE are not completely in this version yet so I am going to try out radky's version with the fixes and improvements with this kernel in the next hours, to see how the kernel performs in this scenario.

• This kernel has both AUFS6 and Overlayfs built in.

• SMP PREEMPT DYNAMIC

• KVM virtualization support is built in.

• NTFS and FAT32 read and write support built in.

• Lz4 and zstd compression support enabled

Firmware (fdrv_fossapup64_9.6.sfs) is constructed from a Debian derived kernel build using @fredx181 's script for making KLV kernels. Which I then modified for use in F96 by moving /usr/lib/firmware to /lib/firmware and squashing the result into the fdrv

Download F96_4-CE 475 MiB
SHA1-MD5.txt
kernel source

[rockedge]

Using QEMU and running F96_4-CE in a virtual machine I have noticed that there is a double mouse cursor. This makes using F96 awkward in QEMU in the VNC mode. Using TigerVNC client to talk to QEMU's VNC server and the F96 virtual machine works very well.

To fix this add to the QEMU command line arguments : -usb -usbdevice tablet

UPDATE: F96_3-radkyCE is stable and very fast with the F96 kernel 6.0.9

@radky

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▶—— Linux Kernel ——◀

Kernel Build     6.0.9 (x86_64)
Build Date       Fri Nov 18 20:57:07 EST 2022
Build GCC        9.4.0-1ubuntu1~20.04.1
OS Support       GNU/Linux
Architecture     x86_64
SMP Enabled      Yes
PAE Enabled      Yes

Command Line     psubdir=F96_3-radkyCE pmedia=atahd net.ifnames=0

[rockedge]

I tested @BarryK 's Osmo build for EasyOS with the Contacts functions working in F96_4-CE and I can report after one small library (libhtml) was installed via PPM, it started right up and all Osmo systems are a GO for launch.

I will have to make sure this gets into the next release.

radky's F96 has the window shade function working with the mouse scroll wheel. Big feature returned! I'll have to inquire how to fix this as well!!

[Jasper]

Thank you for updating these builds, not only for your time but also the bandwidth for hosting the files.

I would encourage members to test out the new builds and give feedback.

Personally, I have some issues with some sites (awful ISP), however you can easily download the files using terminal if you have a Certificate issue.

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wget https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/ISO/F96-CE/F96_4-CE/F96_4-CE.iso --show progress --no-check-certificate

wget https://rockedge.org/kernels/data/Kernels/64bit/6.0.9-x86_64/kernel_sources-6.0.9-fossapup64.sfs --show progress --no-check-certificate

[radky]

Edit: radky iso removed to prevent further confusion

[thinkpadfreak]

Hello.

I am testing F96_4-CE by rockedge.

Here are my observations:
1. While it is booting, some messages which we don't usually see are displayed. Even though those messages don't affect the performance of the OS, I don't want them displayed.

2. I booted, set the timezone to localtime (not utc) and shutdown without creating a save file. When I booted another Puppy, the clock showed the wrong time.

3. We cannot use an IME with Chrome running on Fossapup64 9.6. This issue does not happen on Fossapup64 9.5.

[Clarity]

Question for @radky

... If anyone is interested, below is a link to another spin of the FP96_4-CE iso ...

Is this a WoofCE generation or a remaster of F96_4?

Questions for @rockedge

...

• KVM virtualization support is built in.

...

• Those this mean that a modprobe for KVM loading is unnecessary?

• Is this support feature applicable to both INtel and AMD?

Thanks in advance

[Clarity]

Question for @radky

... If anyone is interested, below is a link to another spin of the FP96_4-CE iso ...

Is this a WoofCE generation or a remaster of F96_4?

Questions for @rockedge

...

• KVM virtualization support is built in.

...

• Those this mean that a modprobe for KVM loading is unnecessary?

• Is this support feature applicable to both INtel and AMD?

Thanks in advance

Later

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[Clarity]

Booted the ISO files for both the 'CE' as well as the 'radky' versions of F96_4 on QEMU as well as on bare-metal via SG2D without issuess to desktop

The Puppy Desktop app is different between these 2 PUPs even though they are in the same family.

Ideas

• I offer an idea: IN the radky version, it has an button for Conky. Also, @ETP has a PET for Conky that provides a menu addition to toggle Conky ON and OFF. Could both be built-in on an upcoming version? (@ETP contributions are in the main forum's "Fossapup User Contributed Packages")

• Lastly, for the Fossa-type distros, knowing that later distros versions have emerged, could BTOP be added to the Repo For its ability to show a greater more granular bit of information about system behavior on a single screen. which is a quite more helpful to any of us who have used it. BTOP is much more helpful at a glance than both TOP/HTOP

Behavior is wonderful.

[fr-ke]

firewall again

The port release for UDP does not work, as shown in http://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.p ... 81d#p73220 .
TCP-portś works as expected.

In the /usr/sbin/firewall_ng script, when I move lines 1185 and 1186

\$IPT -A udp_inbound -p UDP -j RETURN
\$IP6T -A udp_inbound -p UDP -j RETURN

after the "custom extras" at "The rest!" then iptables -v -L shows the correct order and my network scanner is happy.

Might not be clean since UDP rules and TCP rules are mixed up. On the other hand, they are also with the "custom extras".
I don't have any experience with creating scripts, so I can't say if that breaks anything else.

I don't know if this is the right place to post this. Bionicpup64, for example, is also affected.
On the other hand, a new Puppx with many improvements is currently being created here.

@radky the IP address is now displayed for me.

Thanks to everyone who made Puppy possible.

regards

[wizard]

@rockedge
@radky

First pass on F96_4 and F96_4 radky.

I've added 2 columns to indicate which version the item/issue applies to. If any info needs clarification, let me know.

f96-4.xls

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Thanks
wizard

[Clarity]

@wizard your spreadsheet manner of tracking important features is NICE!

Here's my version of reporting the siiues I've run into.

Forgive me for plagarizing and using your model without asking.
Edit: Soreadsheet's row 31 (SSM) corrected.

[wizard]

@Clarity

No apology necessary.. Not my first time for testing, documenting & tracking, spreadsheet consolidates issues into a single document. Much easier and cleaner when you have multiple issues.

Thanks
wizard

[wizard]

@clarity

Using a uniform issue format should also help the devs.

Note, Gnumeric, if an issue needs images you can open a new tab and just drag and drop from Rox. You can do dynamic resizing and then make reference to the image in the issue tab. You can also make an internal hyperlink to the image if you want to get sophisticated. Have to do images sparingly since file size can get to big.

Thanks
wizard

[TerryH]

Following the failure of Gen 3 to boot on my ASUS laptop I thought I'd have a go with the Gen 4 release. This version doesn't hang like the earlier vesion, it boot to desktop. The internal touchpad however doesn't work. Using a USB mouse/keyboard, i completed set up created save and rebooted. I still have no touchpad, but internal keyboard is working. Apart from the touchpad, all so far seems OK. Posting from it with Palemoon.

I checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there were no entries relating to my laptop hardware (ASU0A:00 04F3:3134), normally there are entries for keyboard.mouse, touchpad, in the Xorg.0.log. The output from xinput shown below shows no reference to the ASUS specific hardware.

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# dmesg | grep -i "error\|fail\|warn"
[    0.464699] ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve symbol [\_SB.PCI0.GPP1.WLAN], AE_NOT_FOUND (20220331/dswload2-162)
[    0.464703] ACPI Error: AE_NOT_FOUND, During name lookup/catalog (20220331/psobject-220)
[    0.532329] Warning! fotg210_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after
[   18.360052] Error: Driver 'pcspkr' is already registered, aborting...
[   18.458312] thermal thermal_zone1: failed to read out thermal zone (-61)
[   19.392790] ucsi_acpi USBC000:00: PPM init failed (-110)
[   32.576910] gsettings-data-[7835]: segfault at 48 ip 00007fe575e11930 sp 00007fff0da42f20 error 4 in libgconf-2.so.4.1.5[7fe575dfb000+1b000]
[  624.024396] gsettings-data-[18278]: segfault at 48 ip 00007f0f38b8d930 sp 00007ffcb1167f70 error 4 in libgconf-2.so.4.1.5[7f0f38b77000+1b000]
# 
# 
# xinput
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Usb Compliant device Usb Compliant device Keyboard	id=10	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Usb Compliant device Usb Compliant device	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard             	id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus                               	id=6	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button                            	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ USB2.0 HD UVC WebCam: USB2.0 HD         	id=8	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ USB2.0 HD UVC WebCam: USB2.0 IR         	id=9	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard            	id=14	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Usb Compliant device Usb Compliant device Keyboard	id=11	[slave  keyboard (3)]
# 

[mikeslr]

Still working on 1st cup of coffee -- mind yet filled with cobwebs. Reviewing the reports of wizard & clarity.
Just wanted to mention that there are alternatives to red-shift. https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewto ... 3107#p3107. Not sure what would be involved to implement them.

Conman is a mixed blessing. It is the easiest and fastest application by which to establish a wifi connection. On the other hand, in addition to the issues wizard noted I have these:

(1) There is no way to unhide the password being entered. The most often location from which an internet connection is sought is NOT a public one. By now most people will have long, complex passwords. Simple typing mistakes are not evident and will lead to long, frustration filled minutes of attempting to resolve a problem whose solution would be obvious if the typed password could be shown.
(2) I am compelled to use a wifi extender, a device which relays the wifi signals broadcast by the router. My router broadcasts two, one of which is 5G that carries more information but produces a weaker signal. The extender amplifies those signals before relaying them under different names. In other words, my computer's wifi adapters see 4 networks all of which are under my control. Which one provides the strongest signal at any time depends on interference from other close-by networks (channels? being used by neighbors). Most frequently, the strongest signal is the not-5G generated by the extender. Because two are relays, to access them requires the same password as the direct signals. They present, however, as 'open networks'.

Conman does not have any option to enter a password for such 'open' signals; nor to set the password for a direct network, disconnect from it and connect to its 'relayed' twin. Other wifi controlling applications do.

(3) You might think the work-around to problem 2 would just be to install frisbee or Simple Network System and/or, if necessary, the network wizard to 'call' them. That doesn't work. Or at least not OOTB. They won't appear on the menu, EVER. Something is either missing or conman prevents their installation. I'll investigate further. But if my sometimes flaky and as yet still further encumbered by cobwebs memory is correct, dimkr has mentioned conman can not co-exist with at least one of the other applications.

If the above can not be resolved, then I would argue that conman's advantages are over-weighed by its disadvantages.

[rockedge]

If the above can not be resolved, then I would argue that conman's advantages are over-weighed by its disadvantages.

I agree. One plus is that conman can connect 2 ethernet cards simultaneously which the other Puppy's could not. But the lack of controls is limiting overall. And I still tend to think Networkmanager might be the way to go.

I have also compiled a new version of kernel -> 6.0.9-rock SMP PREEMPT DYNAMIC that has better tablet and touchpad support hopefully. I am testing this kernel and so far it is performing well in F96-CE

[wizard]

@mikeslr

I installed Frisbee and it does have some issues.
1. Does not show in Menu (didn't show in F95 either),
-edit /usr/share/applications/frisbee.desktop
-remove: Nodisplay=true
-restart jwm

2. Loads slowly, be patient

Have used it to change from ethernet to wifi and it works, but doesn't seem to talk to tray icon. You can check with Menu>System>IPinfo

On coffee cup 3

Thanks
wizard

[rockedge]

On coffee cup 3

I'm headed to the kitchen for #4

[wizard]

@mikeslr

Agree with you about connman, but looks like it can do more.
Look at this frontend for it:
https://github.com/andrew-bibb/cmst/wiki/Screenshots

Its written in QT5, so not sure if it would work

@rockedge

You're only winning on coffee because you're on EST

Thanks
wizard

[Clarity]

ha! Coffee game!

I'm on the 2nd pot...

I have a question on practices to use for kernel testing-management when booting from ISO files. I will open a separate thread later to ask advice. This is more a universal PUP management issue vs a single distro issue.

[ozsouth]

Hmmm coffee - fights my beta-blocker, so I'm reduced to hot chocolate (is milo in oz) & an afternoon nap.

[bigpup]

@rockedge

Do not know if you are at the point of correcting this.

There are a lot of programs that have newer versions to use.

Just looking at what is in Woof-CE/noarch repository
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ges-noarch
There are many that have recently been updated from the time Fossapup64 9.5 was released.

[dimkr]

Changes pushed to woof-CE recently:
- Latest Pale Moon (@user1234's work!) instead of the old package from FossaPup
- pTheme is disabled to prevent conflicts with JWMDesk
- FossaPup-inspired looks

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[rockedge]

@bigpup Important point, and eventually these packages need to be added to the woof-CE Fossapup recipe to standardize the woof-CE so the builds like F96 using the Focal Fossa 64 bit selections can include the newest stable versions.

@dimkr Excellent! I am going to run a woof-CE build later today from a cloned woof-CE on the local machine to create the base for a F96.

[bigpup]

I see this Puppy version is using all kinds of new software for providing sound.

I also see there seems to be no help for how to use it or I have not found anything providing help information.

I tried to figure out how to get sound output from my headphone.
Nothing I have tried will make this happen.
But that is the problem.

Am I doing what needs to be done to select the output device and what device is providing the sound?

I have done something to no longer be able to have my analog device as the provider of sound.
At first, before trying to change settings, analog device was in the selection list.
Now it is not.

Update:
I figured out how to get the sound by my headset, but it was not by understanding what needed to be done.
I just kept trying things.

I did this preferences setting in the Volume Control.
But how would I know that clicking on an icon that is identified as: Set AS Fallback would make it work?
.

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[radky]

@rockedge is working diligently on the next developmental release of FossaPup64 9.6 which will provide a solid base for additional refinement by the Puppy community. Until then, the following link provides an update of the FP96_4-CE iso which provides alternate solutions for many of the functional issues reported by those who have tested prior releases.

Edit: outdated iso removed

Changelog:

• Multiple adjustments and fixes
• Adjusted GUI of Quickpet utility and removed non-functioning modules
• Adjusted availability of default serif font
• Adjusted ROX right-click context menu options similar to those in the original FP95
• Adjusted notification tray apps that were non-functional
• Adjusted tray clock to show popup calendar by left-click and PupClockset Manager by right-click
• Adjusted Udev rules to reduce error messages at boot time
• Added Udev 80-net-name-slot.rules to support legacy nomenclature for network interfaces
• Adjusted input-wizard for improved access to mouse and touchpad configuration options
• Adjusted drop-down lists of Quicksetup GUI for easy access
• Adjusted generation of loopback address (localhost) used for file sharing on a local network
• Updated several applications including Palemoon, Packit, Uextract, Take a Shot, Take a Gif, PeasyDiff and PupSysInfo
• Added BK's Osmo package with a functioning contacts module
• Added JakeSFR's MagDock screen magnifier
• Added 'Legacy Theme Tools' to Desktop category of the main menu. This GUI provides quick access to Puppy theme utilities without loading JWMdesk.
• Added EPT's Conky Toggle to the main tray (provides convenient On/Off control of the Conky system monitor)
• Added FixMenus and Internet Connect Wizard to main menu
• Added FossaPup64 help files recently updated by the Puppy Community
• Replaced ConnMan with legacy network tools (sns, frisbee, network wizard)
• And many more adjustments to hopefully improve the desktop experience
• Again, JWMdesk is the lone desktop manager as true for the original FP95

PupMates
https://www.smokey01.com/radky/PupMates.html

[rockedge]

@radky Excellent work! A real help to the cause.

I wonder if Conman would be the better choice if a decent GUI control and configuration option was much better? Since it does not yet appear so it makes sense to open up the connection options and methods with the standard Puppy networking tools.

I will be running this version today and looking at a way to merge or leave this version as the base to work from going forward.

[wizard]

@radky
@rockedge

F96_4radky2-CE running smoothly on my system, many fixes and up grades. Here is the updated issue list for this version.

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wizard

[bigpup]

My thinking about having ConnMan.
If it works as well as it has so far for me, keep it.
It is very easy to use.

But what if you need more setting options?

The Network Wizard has the ability to make settings for everything you can think of.

I suggest ConnMan be the default network connection program.

Have Network Wizard as an optional connection program, for those who may need to have setting options.