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perhaps a stupid question i have searched around to find out,

Will there be a new Fossapup64 version like Ubuntu & some others do sometime?

Hiya

What is it specifically that you would want from an update?

Hardware drivers?
Software updates?
Security and stability updates?
New functionality?
Performance?

Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) was officially released on April 2020. Security patches and updates available until 2025.

@bean :-

I assume you're talking about what are termed "point releases"? Generally speaking, no.

Usual Puppy practice has, for some years, been to make the next new Puppy based on the next new mainstream release. The most stable, naturally, are based on the LTS releases. Normally, every new Puppy is what amounts to a 'frozen' snapshot in time.

A very few developers - specifically, dimkr, with the Vanilla DPup/UPup series - will offer regular 'upgrades' within a series, following mainstream practice. I believe this is because although he likes the Puppy ethos of keeping everything small, he's still a great believer in keeping absolutely everything bang-up-to-date all the time.....which naturally occurs many times within the usual 2-yr lifespan of an LTS release.

He also happens to be the only major 'active' contributor to Woof-CE over at Github who appears on the forums with any regularity...

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@Jasper :-

I would imagine security & stability upgrades are most people's biggest concern. Myself, I never see the point in constantly upgrading the kernel every few days; if all your hardware functions, and everything behaves itself the way it should, then frankly I don't see the point.

Due to constant browser upgrading - to combat online "nasties", of course - certain security-related stuff will periodically need to be updated. This can usually be performed manually by the user.

I guess the entire thing about regular upgrades/updates has developed the way it has in Linux due to the vast influx of 'refugees' from MyCrudSoft......who are used to being force-fed regular updates all the time (to 'protect' them from their own foolishness, natch!), and who would complain bitterly about not getting them on this side of the fence. So, over the last several years, most mainstream distros have gone out of their way to make their OS as inviting and user-friendly as possible.

Swings & roundabouts, mate. C'est la vie!

Mike.

This I think was the next version 666philb was working on to be the replacement for Fossapup64 9.5

imppup / indripup
viewtopic.php?t=4138

But his last post was Mar 05, 2022.

Seems to have no progress to get it to final release.

peepee has made some versions of jammypup based on Ubuntu jammy jellyfish, but they are 32bit.

Jasper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:36 am

Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) was officially released on April 2020. Security patches and updates available until 2025.

True, but users of Fossapup64 don't receive any of these fixes. When you install Fossapup today, you're 2.5 years behind in terms of vulnerabilities and bugs. And Puppy doesn't have any updates mechanism that installs these (IMHO important) updates.

If you rebuild Fossapup64 using today's woof-CE and all all Ubuntu 20.04 updates since the release of Fossapup (like the focal64 development builds in https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... /build.yml), you get something extremely compatible with 9.5 but with extra security and stability "for free". In addition, a Puppy built using today's woof-CE is more secure and boots much faster, among other improvements.

It's perfectly possible to release a 9.5.1 release that won't upset any users of 9.5.

bigpup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:05 pm

peepee has made some versions of jammypup

toilet humour should be truly off-topic.

wiak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:24 pm

bigpup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:05 pm

peepee has made some versions of jammypup

toilet humour should be truly off-topic.

Corrected the statement and spelling.
This keyboard can not spell

Split this topic and moved all the how to build a Puppy version with Woof-CE to this new topic:
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=7188