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I've switched from Palemoon to Chromium recently. Massive improvement with regards to browsing and using google related things like google drive and youtube. Very fast and remarkably light on resources. With Palemoon using youtube (reading comments and so on) drives my machine in the red unlike with Chromium. I've also installed the agent switcher extension which works very well. Great for displaying available mobile site versions and saving data. Again a mention - switching to youtube's mobile site is highly recommended. You can play videos without the ads and there are not much other stuff running in the background.

On my 10 year old hardware I recently found that Google Chrome uses less CPU than Firefox when playing (the same) youtube video.

@amethyst :-

Heh. You're preaching to the choir here, mate. It's hardly surprising, either; Chromium IS Google-sanctioned, after all!

I've used Chrome ever since the early beta testing versions around 14 years ago.....September 2008. The early releases were very light and sizzlingly fast. As the web 'bloated' so did browsers; Chrome/Chromium had a horrendous reputation for heavy RAM use at one time, and to some extent still does - because of the tab sandboxing - but the devs at the Chromium Project have done a LOT of work to address this in recent years. One of the best examples of this is what they call "lazy loading", where not only does any given part of a web page not display until it comes into focus, it doesn't even load into memory until it approaches that point.....thereby keeping resource demand quite light.

It works well. And Chrome of course benefits because the whole Chromium Project is essentially Google's browser R & D department.

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In addition, although it doesn't apply to everyone, by and large the Puppy hardware "pool" has improved over the years. Most of the older low-RAM, single-core machines have finally been retired, and multi-core, multi-thread CPUs with generous dollops of RAM are becoming the norm for many. This itself is probably one of the single biggest factors making Puppy more usable than ever.....because there's no shortage of resources these days. In a way, Puppy's original reason for existing is no longer as relevant as it once was.

That's progress (I guess).

Mike.

Hmmm. Maybe not all that great with some non-related Google sites. Gumtree for one is an absolute nightmare. Quickly goes to 100% cpu usage and an inevitable freeze-up after a few minutes. If not that it leaves the page with an error message. Think I will stick with Palemoon for most as it works very well for me on my machine and use Chromium only for sites I can't access properly with Palemoon. I'll try Firefox again to see if it is not the better overall performer.
Edit: Dumped Firefox, just don't like it (never have).

amethyst wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:23 am

Hmmm. Maybe not all that great with some non-related Google sites. Gumtree for one is an absolute nightmare. Quickly goes to 100% cpu usage and an inevitable freeze-up after a few minutes. If not that it leaves the page with an error message. Think I will stick with Palemoon for most as it works very well for me on my machine and use Chromium only for sites I can't access properly with Palemoon. I'll try Firefox again to see if it is not the better overall performer.
Edit: Dumped Firefox, just don't like it (never have).

This is why we have so many alternatives available. Everybody has different hardware setups, and different requirements in respect of what they want from a browser.

What works for one doesn't automatically work for somebody else. And that's why we keep those alternatives available. As I've said before - on numerous occasions - browsers are the "glue" that hold online communities together.....and make so much else accessible.

So you want one that "works" for you. It IS very much a 'personal choice'.

Mike.

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:43 pm

amethyst wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:23 am

Hmmm. Maybe not all that great with some non-related Google sites.

So you want one that "works" for you.

Mike.

Don't forget to try LibreWolf appimage: https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/ ... -/releases

It works on every website I've ever used, including some sites I use everyday designed to be used on handheld devices. Palemoon is buggy on lot's of sites. Chromium, generally works, but doesn't seem as versatile as Libre.

EDIT: Sorry, just noticed you hate Firefox. Well, that doesn't a leave alternatives! It's mostly chrome clones or firefox clones these days.

geo_c wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:55 pm

mikewalsh wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:43 pm

amethyst wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:23 am

Hmmm. Maybe not all that great with some non-related Google sites.

So you want one that "works" for you.

Mike.

Don't forget to try LibreWolf appimage: https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/ ... -/releases

It works on every website I've ever used, including some sites I use everyday designed to be used on handheld devices. Palemoon is buggy on lot's of sites. Chromium, generally works, but doesn't seem as versatile as Libre.

EDIT: Sorry, just noticed you hate Firefox. Well, that doesn't a leave alternatives! It's mostly chrome clones or firefox clones these days.

Thanks for link to LibreWolf appimage. Downloaded latest version. I had lot trouble getting those w/ads movies on youtube to play until now. LibreWolf said it needed to install DRM, I agreed. After that it played the w/ads movies fine w/o ads. Not sure how they did that. But this is a keeper, just to play the movies if nothing else. Cause I couldnt get firefox or chromium or vivaldi to play them.