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See here for info and download: https://github.com/DebianDog/MakeLive/releases/tag/1.4

Devuan Live Chimaera with Trinity Desktop https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ (project continued from (the legacy) KDE3 Desktop)
Created initially with mklive-chimaera viewtopic.php?p=26733#p26733, but later remastered with included (basic) Trinity Desktop.
32-bit and 64-bit ISO's :
Devuan_live-Trinity-32-bit.iso
Devuan_live-Trinity-64-bit.iso
EDIT: 32-bit with no-pae kernel: Devuan_live-Trinity-32-bit-no-pae.iso

As a download below, for those running from very modern computer: kernel 5.18.0-2 module, taken from Bookworm, to be able to swap the kernel,

• k-5.18.0-2-bookworm-amd64.tar.gz
  Extract in the frugal install 'live' folder (vmlinuz1 and initrd1.xz should be overwritten, recommended to make backup of these first.
  Also :
• 99-firmware-bookworm.squashfs module, recommended to load together with kernel 5.18.0-2.

Additional info:
This started for me initially out of curiosity and nostalgie and I did like KDE3 (I started Linux by using Slax with KDE3 Desktop at that time).
Also I have great respect for the developers, who maintained Trinity already for 10+ years !
Installed Trinity by following instructions here: https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Devuan_ ... structions

tde-trinity package is a comprehensive meta-package. To install only a basic environment, replace tde-trinity with tdebase-trinity in the instructions below.

Included the 'basic' Desktop, tdebase-trinity (install size of tde-trinity is huge).
Note that it's build with mklive-chimaera option "Openbox with tint2 panels" and I didn't bother to remove openbox or tint2 etc..., so there's still option from Menu > System > "Start Openbox".
(also still included is pcmanfm file-manager).
Not much "polishing" done, e.g. default applications (e.g. 'Open with') may be not as desired.
Screenshot;

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This release is awesome! Devuan + Trinity + 32-Bit-Version. It means "special-special-special" Linux! Unfortunately, the 32-Bit-Version is for CPUs with PAE only. Would you mind switching pae off at kernel-compilation-time? This way, the disk should even run on old computers. Many distributors forget that, even the devlopers of partedmagic (which is a repair-cd!). PAE is overrated: Most old computers have a mainboard-maximum of 4GB anyway and that's enough to run all live-cds.

McDowell wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:22 am

This release is awesome! Devuan + Trinity + 32-Bit-Version. It means "special-special-special" Linux! Unfortunately, the 32-Bit-Version is for CPUs with PAE only. Would you mind switching pae off at kernel-compilation-time? This way, the disk should even run on old computers. Many distributors forget that, even the devlopers of partedmagic (which is a repair-cd!). PAE is overrated: Most old computers have a mainboard-maximum of 4GB anyway and that's enough to run all live-cds.

Ha! I knew someday someone "special-+-+-+" would be interested
Here's 32-bit ISO with non-pae kernel: Devuan_live-Trinity-32-bit-no-pae.iso https://github.com/DebianDog/MakeLive/r ... no-pae.iso (with kernel 5.10.0-22-686)

how do I install this on my USB disk ( sda2 - ext4 )? how to write a line in grub2

@Sofiya
I have some examples that might help:

menuentry "First on sda6" {
  echo "Booting First on sda6 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bccxxx
  linux /First/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=UUID:2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bcc4-5exx/First changes=EXIT:UUID:2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bcckkkkkkk5x/First
  initrd /First/live/initrd1.xz
}

menuentry "First on sda6 copy2ram" {
  echo "Booting First on sda6 copy2ram..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2618304c-b5be-4xx
  linux /First/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto copy2ram from=UUID:2618304c-bxx/First changes=EXIT:UUID:2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bcc4-xx/First
  initrd /First/live/initrd1.xz

Or simply without the UUID's for from= or changes= (but "First" (or whatever) better be unique name i.e. not present on the root of any other partition)
("live" dir must be placed inside "First")

menuentry "First on sda6 changes on demand" {
  echo "Booting First on sda6 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bccxxx
  linux /First/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=/First changes=EXIT:/First
  initrd /First/live/initrd1.xz
}

Or without EXIT: (changes directly saved, no "save2flash")

menuentry "First on sda6" {
  echo "Booting First on sda6 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bccxxx
  linux /First/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=/First changes=/First
  initrd /First/live/initrd1.xz
}

rockedge wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 8:55 pm

@Sofiya
I have some examples that might help:

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menuentry "First on sda6" {
  echo "Booting First on sda6 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bccxxx
  linux /First/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=UUID:2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bcc4-5exx/First changes=EXIT:UUID:2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bcckkkkkkk5x/First
  initrd /First/live/initrd1.xz
}

menuentry "First on sda6 copy2ram" {
  echo "Booting First on sda6 copy2ram..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2618304c-b5be-4xx
  linux /First/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto copy2ram from=UUID:2618304c-bxx/First changes=EXIT:UUID:2618304c-b5be-4cdc-bcc4-xx/First
  initrd /First/live/initrd1.xz

MMM.... I scribbled the line a little differently.But the download went through. Everything is beautiful, except that the brightness is not adjustable and the processor heats up to 80 degrees. It feels like there is no video driver

menuentry "Debian_Dog" {
  insmod ext2
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set fbb65611-fb5c-4b0c-8f21-331dabc54d23
  linux /Debian_Dog/live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/Debian_Dog changes=EXIT:/Fossa_Dog/casper/ 
  initrd /Debian_Dog/live/initrd1.xz
}

Sofiya wrote:

the processor heats up to 80 degrees

That's bad, no idea except that 32-bit older kernel can be problematic on very new computers (at least I experienced).
EDIT: No I see now you use 64-bit

Btw, not sure if it's wise to use changes=EXIT:/Fossa_Dog/casper/ (don't know, if there's already a changes folder belonging to Fossa_Dog ?)

fredx181 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:30 pm

Sofiya wrote:

the processor heats up to 80 degrees

That's bad, no idea except that 32-bit older kernel can be problematic on very new computers (at least I experienced).
EDIT: No I see now you use 64-bit

Btw, not sure if it's wise to use changes=EXIT:/Fossa_Dog/casper/ (don't know, if there's already a changes folder belonging to Fossa_Dog ?)

yes I am using the 64-bit version.
yeah, it's a pity that the processor gets hot
@fredx181 In any case, thanks!!! for this masterpiece It reminded me of the old days when I used KDE

This line is what you need

menuentry "Debian_Dog" {
  echo "Debian_Dog on sda2 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fbb65611-fb5c-4b0c-8f21-331dabc54d23
  linux /Debian_Dog/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=/Debian_Dog changes=/Debian_Dog
  initrd /Debian_Dog/live/initrd1.xz
}

Sofiya wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:24 pm

This line is what you need

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menuentry "Debian_Dog" {
  echo "Debian_Dog on sda2 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fbb65611-fb5c-4b0c-8f21-331dabc54d23
  linux /Debian_Dog/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=/Debian_Dog changes=/Debian_Dog
  initrd /Debian_Dog/live/initrd1.xz
}

Ok, but I guess that does not solve the heat problem for you, or does it ?

fredx181 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:28 pm

Sofiya wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:24 pm

This line is what you need

Code: Select all

menuentry "Debian_Dog" {
  echo "Debian_Dog on sda2 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fbb65611-fb5c-4b0c-8f21-331dabc54d23
  linux /Debian_Dog/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=/Debian_Dog changes=/Debian_Dog
  initrd /Debian_Dog/live/initrd1.xz
}

Ok, but I guess that does not solve the heat problem for you, or does it ?

Yes, absolutely right, it doesn’t solve

Sofiya wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:30 pm

fredx181 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:28 pm

Sofiya wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:24 pm

This line is what you need

Code: Select all

menuentry "Debian_Dog" {
  echo "Debian_Dog on sda2 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fbb65611-fb5c-4b0c-8f21-331dabc54d23
  linux /Debian_Dog/live/vmlinuz1 edd=off noauto from=/Debian_Dog changes=/Debian_Dog
  initrd /Debian_Dog/live/initrd1.xz
}

Ok, but I guess that does not solve the heat problem for you, or does it ?

Yes, absolutely right, it doesn’t solve

Well, I keep thinking of what's causing it, if you once feel like it, try installing xserver-xorg-video-all

fredx181 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:33 pm

Sofiya wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:30 pm

fredx181 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:28 pm

Ok, but I guess that does not solve the heat problem for you, or does it ?

Yes, absolutely right, it doesn’t solve

Well, I keep thinking of what's causing it, if you once feel like it, try installing xserver-xorg-video-all

Installing xserver-xorg-video-all did not solve the problem

Everything is good at FossaDog64 ubuntu

menuentry "Fossa_Dog" {
  echo "Fossa_Dog on sda2 ..."
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root fbb65611-fb5c-4b0c-8f21-331dabc54d23
  linux /FossaDog/casper/vmlinuz from=/FossaDog noauto changes=/FossaDog/casper/changes
  initrd /FossaDog/casper/initrd1.xz