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Palemoon, being built-in to fossapup64, is an easy update, and so I recently updated to version 31, and it seems to have solved the cpu issues that I was experiencing with version 30. I posted in @mikewalsh's Brave-portable thread that I was pretty sour on Palemoon after the recent releases, but I've always appreciated the browser, and so I'm going to be using it again.

I'll report any issues as I find them.

Direct download from here:
https://linux.palemoon.org/

I beg to differ.
No improvement in performance on my end with the latest version unfortunately...49% cpu usage with just the browser open..
I give up with it and i cannot see the situation improving on my laptop through the passage of time..When i decide to get a more powerful laptop then i shall test again.I have used palemoon for years but each update is bringing more strain on my computer.

I also am seeing insane CPU load and usage with palemoon 31 on Void Linux based distros and well as my Puppy Linux Bionic's and Fossapup's. Those both show the same CPU and sudden RAM usage of palemoon 31.

I used to really like it. Sorry in a sentimental way to see it struggling.

xenial wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:17 pm

I beg to differ.
No improvement in performance on my end with the latest version unfortunately...49% cpu usage with just the browser open..
I give up with it and i cannot see the situation improving on my laptop through the passage of time..When i decide to get a more powerful laptop then i shall test again.I have used palemoon for years but each update is bringing more strain on my computer.

Well, I decided to use conky and compare it to LibreWolf which is the closest thing I have to Palemoon. And I do think Palemoon 31 is better than what I was seeing before with v30, which was extremely odd to me, being that my i7's 8 cpu threads would spike to 90+% one at a time, in order and back to the top again. So I don't know much about threading, but it seemed to be a very strange cpu threading issue to me. It's not doing that now in version 31. Though single processor threads are popping up far above the others, whereas LibreWolf bumps all 8 threads up a relatively equal amount.

So I believe you're correct. It still sucks, and I'm probably just not noticing on this machine, because it's an i7 with 8gb of ram and tends to handle a lot without balking.

But I can say that it's definitely not spiking my cpu at all when it's open and idle.

I think I should change the title of the topic.

If you are going to report CPU usage of Pale Moon.

Pick a specific program to use to report CPU usage.

How about all using the same home page and only having Pale Moon open to it only.

For testing I suggest making this forum the home page.

I am using Pale Moon v31.1.0
Only accessing this forum.
I see little to no CPU usage.

I see a lot of CPU usage on some web sites.
They have all kinds of activity and changes going on all the time.
So what the web site is has an affect.

bigpup wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:27 am

If you are going to report CPU usage of Pale Moon.

Pick a specific program to use to report CPU usage.
For testing I suggest making this forum the home page.

My comments in the above post were tested with the forum open on Palemoon and Librewolf. I would scroll up and down on the forum with each one and observe what they did.

As I noted. Palemoon taxes individual processors intermittently more than others, and LibreWolf is more balanced. So with LibreWolf my processors are all raising simultaneously on this machine to about 20% when scrolling the forum. On Palemoon a single processor will spike to 70-80% while the others increase only slightly.

Very different cpu behavior from the two browsers.

Here are reports from filtered htop, for both current Palemoon 31.1 and Firefox 102.0
Both were sitting on this page on the forum. Only other app open was TAS.

Out of curiosity I renamed the portable folder palemoon64 in the portable to palemoon64-updated and dragged a copy of the palemoon64 folder from a copy of 29.4.1 portable there.

Looks really good so far, back to minimal cpu.

Other than security, what criteria are we using to upgrade if we know it won't always mean better performance?

Security always seems esoteric to me.

Compatibility is probably my 1st driver, but I would state I do not remember compatibility issues 28-newer.

Version 29 is better, reverted back to using it.

amethyst wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:41 am

Version 29 is better, reverted back to using it.

Unfortunately I rarely boot up Palemoon these days. LibreWolf is a real workhorse for me. No significant limitations, doesn't break or hang ever, pretty dang secure, and runs relatively snappy. Not as fast as Iron, but a lot less google involved.