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I have a frugal install of Bionic32 with seamonkey 2.53.11.1.
It does not load this site - https://www.danmurphys.com.au
It should be noted that the site loaded with a previous version of seamonkey (version ?) - my login details are still in my profile.
What has been removed in the later versions - 2.53.12 is the same?
@Mercedes350se - I assume you use Seamonkey to have the Mail client as well as the browser. I had to give up Seamonkey as too many sites either wouldn't load, or wouldn't render properly. I went for the Firefox-ESR & Thunderbird combo, which works well (including your Dan Murphys site). I made an updater for Firefox-ESR 32bit (link below).
It is possible to use Firefox to browse & to use the email client, run:
seamonkey -mail (maybe set this in /usr/local/bin/defaultemail).
There is also a Seamonkey extension for 'mail only', which facilitates http(s) calls to another browser.
Firefox ESR .pet link (after installing .pet, must run Internet menu entry for ESR update):
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic. ... e36#p54265
You would need the apulse .pet too, for bionic 32. Note: minimum 2Gb ram needed to run this.
Yes I use seamonkey for the email client - have been since puppy 2.x
I really, really, really do not want to have to use a separate browser - on another frugal install i have tried the latest Firefox and Thunderbird but do not like the Thunderbird interface (damn stick-in-the-mud).
My understanding is that seamonkey has a mozilla/Firefox parentage so what have the devs done to it?
@Mercedes350se - the program is compiled with many switches, so could be a change there - or maybe in order to add a new feature, they made a change which caused this. If you want to stick with Seamonkey, I think you'll have to go back to a working version & try new ones when they arrive, to see if issue fixed. Not the recommended security option though.
@Mercedes350se
the reason is the used javascript engine of seamonkey.
The bug is known and reported.
I'm afraid we have to wait for a bugfix or js engine update.
Yes, I didn't want to give up SM as make regular use of the Composer HTML editor component.
So, in EasyOS I was forced to include both SeaMonkey and Firefox in the build. Bumps the size of course, but what to do?
I am waiting for SM 2.57.x. There are snapshots of that, probably only for the brave:
Needless to say, the site loads fine in every Chromium clone.....
@BarryK :-
It's a shame Kompozer was only ever produced in a 32-bit build. That would, of course, then mean introducing the added complexity of 32-bit compatibility stuff.....and I know that's a rabbit-hole you have no intentions of ever heading down.
I did put together a 'portable' build of the only available build of Kompozer, but that's of no use to you. I guess it would be possible to build it in 64-bit format, but I don't have a clue where the source code might be hiding, OR if it's even publicly available anymore. There's no sign of it on Mozilla's download servers.
I've often wondered if it's possible to separate out the different SeaMonkey components, but they appear to all be tightly-integrated in the one, single libxul.so library. I assume this is what appealed to you about it in the very early days, since it obviously helped to keep Puppy's size down to a minimum....
Mike. 
@mikewalsh
I have found and downloaded the source code for a Linux Kompozer (i486). I can make it available as soon as I finish updating owncloud.rockedge.
some source here -> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kompoz ... mirror=ovh
The page does not load properly for me in Palemoon 29.1 either (well it does actually load but the page is blank).
@amethyst Oh! I posted the direct download link....did it download?
Here is the page I got it from : http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/
Or download from my MEGA cloud drive. kompozer-0.7.10-gcc4.0.3-i486.tar.gz
@BarryK :-
There you go, Barry. Erik has unearthed the Kompozer source-code! Fancy compiling a 64-bit version? 
Mike.
While I wait for the owncloud upgrade code to upload (takes tttttiiiiiiiimmmmmme) I tried a compile in KLV-Airedale built from the latest PLUG file version. This error occured right before ./configure completed successfully.
I think with hopefulness, that just the gtk+2 (gtk2+) libraries are missing.
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checking for trouble comparing to zero near std::operator!=()... no
checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes
checking for gzread in -lz... yes
checking for pkg-config... /sbin/pkg-config
checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.7... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.7) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.Seemed to have gotten a step closer. Build attempt on KLV-Airedale 64 bit
I installed:
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gtk+2-devel
libIDL-develand almost a full configuration run, enough to start a compile attempt.
which compiled awhile and stopped ->
@rockedge :-
I must confess, Erik, I was thinking that part of the problem might be that the thing requires an older build-environment. Remember, they quit development on this a few years back; modern OSs might simply be TOO new for it.
Food for thought, perhaps?
Mike.
@mikewalsh It certainly could be that! The code syntax and classes changed perhaps enough as well.
Though it seems to be going alright as far as environment goes. The ./configure and ./configure --prefix=/usr commands both finish completing the environment checks and are creating the Makefile .
I will try to track down this particular error which seems to be the object structure is depreciated and replaced with a new object class (or something like that) and see how complicated it would be to just use the error message suggestion and replace the old(er) object with the new syntax.
Perhaps @misko_2083 could take a look, and if the time is there, throw out an idea what the chances are fixing it up enough to compile it.
This is 64-bit and the PET is only 16.6MB:
https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... -amd64.pet
The guy who developed Komposer went on to developing BlueGriffon, and 1.0 was a very early release. I just bundled his binary release into a PET. Works fine in latest Easy, should work also in the pups.
Also the NLS PET, 2.9MB:
Good pickups guys. However, as @Mercedes350se issue is email, this is the extension I referred to earlier, which lets you use Seamonkey mail with another browser: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/se ... nkey-mail/
OK. seamonkey devs I gave up!
installed firefox 102.0 and no more random sluggishness, no more random freezes, no more random crashes and ..... it opens the pages i want.
Peace and harmony returns to my world.