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Yes, time is ticking... New brazen single-board computers are trying to push the old man... It's like in the biological world

Actually, two interesting devices have appeared this year. Both are from Orange.

Orange Pi 800
First, it is a direct competitor for the Raspberry Pi 400. That is, the computer is in the keyboard.

Orange Pi 4 LTS
Secondly, it is apparently a competitor of Raspberry Pi 4.

Both devices have on board the RK3399 processor from Rockchip. Apparently this is the standard for this year.
Personally, I am more interested in the second option. But RetrOrangePi does not work on it.

That Orange Pi 800 is not bad looking.

It is going to have the same problem, I have with my Raspberry Pi 400.
The USB ports are too close to each other.
Some USB drives will not plug in next to each other.
The drives are physically too wide and they do not allow room to fit.
Micro drives and normal USB cable plugs are OK.
Even some USB drives, do not have room to fit, next to some USB cable plugs.

This is the only issue I have with the Pi 400.

The two Puppy versions, that are for Raspberry Pi computers, work great on it.

@bigpup Why not use one of these?:

Sure I could do that.
But all they needed to do is just make those USB ports have some room between them.

In fact, I have two different USB cables plugged in next to each other, they touch, and slightly push apart, but still keep the connection.
A micro USB drive is the only thing that will fit into the last available USB slot.
A normal USB stick drive is too wide to fit.

They designed for this with that USB hub.
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On the Pi 400
Those two white USB cable plugs, would be touching, and maybe not even able to completely plug in.

bigpup wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:10 pm

The USB ports are too close to each other.

I also sometimes wonder why developers don't make a normal case and, yes, place connectors through the ass

Of course I can find an explanation for this. Well, there for reasons of economy or because the drawing was drawn, and then they realized the mistake, but they were too lazy to redo it

But when a 17-inch laptop has a microscopic keyboard, and the cursor keys are smaller than the others... I'm not even trying to understand anything here

There is also the Banana Pi M5.
This has a Quad-core Cortex A55 at 2GHz plus 4Gb DDR4LP and a 16Gb eMMC. The Mali G31 is on chip.

Regards
8Geee

Grey wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:55 am

Yes, time is ticking... New brazen single-board computers are trying to push the old man... It's like in the biological world

Actually, two interesting devices have appeared this year. Both are from Orange.

Orange Pi 800
First, it is a direct competitor for the Raspberry Pi 400. That is, the computer is in the keyboard.

Orange Pi 4 LTS
Secondly, it is apparently a competitor of Raspberry Pi 4.

Both devices have on board the RK3399 processor from Rockchip. Apparently this is the standard for this year.
Personally, I am more interested in the second option. But RetrOrangePi does not work on it.

The VGA Port is very useful for people like me having old monitors, and avoid the needing of buying VGA adapter. Only thought is about the Internal flash memory and it's wearing times

Dingo wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:05 pm

The VGA Port is very useful for people like me having old monitors, and avoid the needing of buying VGA adapter. Only thought is about the Internal flash memory and it's wearing times

To be honest, I didn't even pay attention to the fact that there is a VGA After your post, I suddenly realized that I still have a working "square" Acer monitor. And it's only VGA. I can hang it on the wall and use retro system emulators

Yes, that Orange Pi 800, having this stuff, that the Raspberry Pi 400 does not have.

64GB eMMC flash storage
1 x VGA port
1 x 3.5mm mic/headphone jack
Built-in speaker

If price and general performance was the same.

Just having these additional things, would make it a better buy, than the Raspberry Pi 400.

I have seen the recent prices of Rpi 4's and they are thru the roof, higher than a 400.
Haven't yet looked into Opi 800, but the Bpi M4/M5 are $100 and will easily out do my Atom N270. The Bpi M4 has wifi/BT... NO for the M5. Food for thought there. a $10 W/L keyboard and a decent 8.9/10/11.6 monitor and Bob's your uncle. Maybe $200 ish.

***EDIT*** Just did a ck in for the Opi800. Nice. But two things.. Boot from USB???, and put at least one bootable slot in front. Mouse... well OK. I prefer a trackpad.

8Geee wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:08 am

I have seen the recent prices of Rpi 4's and they are thru the roof, higher than a 400.

The other day I was looking at prices in a local (Russian) store. The price for Rpi 4 is cosmic, it doesn't even smell like 35 dollars (or how much they promised there). The funniest (and saddest) thing is that the price for the option with 2 gigabytes of RAM is EXACTLY the SAME as for the option with 4 ! For 8 they ask a little more.

I do not know what kind of grass sellers smoke.

But I found three other microcomputers in this store for more reasonable prices:
1. ROCK Pi Model A (Rockchip RK3399: 6 x 1800, RAM: 4096)
2. ASUS Tinker Board (Rockchip RK3399: 6 x 2000, RAM: 2048)
3.ODROID-N2+ (Amlogic S922: 4 x 2400, RAM: 4096). The form factor of the board is different, more like a square, not a rectangle.
If I buy, then something of the above