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EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:49 am
by BarryK

Actually, it is uploading right now.

The problem is, I changed the folder layout for the releases, into year sub-folders:

https://distro.ibiblio.org/easyos/amd64 ... s/dunfell/

Previously, every release was immediately under the "dunfell" folder, but this made a lot of work for rsync whenever uploaded a new version.

Also, it is nice to see the releases categorized into year.

However, rsync has had to re-upload every release, and it has used up my 50GB monthly allotment with Vodafone, on my phone (I use the phone as my wi-fi hotspot).
It starts at the beginning of each calendar month, and when the limit is reach, drops down to a slower speed.

It is a fixed-price contract, which is great, but then I do have to tolerate the slow speed when over the limit.
It is now only June 8, so have to wait until July 1 before get back the 50GB at high speed.

Right now uploading 3.4.3, so will get to 4.0 eventually, perhaps several hours from now. I was wondering why upload had become so slow, then saw the text message from Vodafone on my phone, informing me that the limit has been exceeded.

The low speed is still quite good, 2 mega-bits per sec, using now posting to the forum. Just not so good for uploading massive files to ibiblio.org

I am quite excited about 4.0, for two reasons. Firstly, so fast. Any previous observation about slow app startup in containers, that is gone.

Secondly, while running there are no writes to the drive. So if booted off a flash stick, it can be expected to last "forever".

These two features show great promise for the RaspberryPi, and my next plan is to do a complete aarch64 recompile in OpenEmbedded, then bring out another release for the RPi. That might be a week or two away.

Now that's annoying; I just now looked at Vodafone's BYO SIM unlimited data phone plans:

https://www.vodafone.com.au/plans/sim-only

My plan has a 50GB limit, costing me AU$35 per month, but look what Vodafone now offer! 80GB at $40 per month. They even go up to unlimited high speed for AU$60 per month.

Hmmm, looks like I will be visiting my local Vodafone shop (which very conveniently is a 10 minute walk from my home!).


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:55 am
by BarryK

Oh, advance warning, the "update" icon on the desktop won't work, if you are currently running EasyOS.

Because it doesn't know about the new sub-folders.

After the upload to ibiblio.org has finished, I will test that the new update script works, then post it to the forum.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:09 am
by BarryK

Ha ha, a bit more reading, reckon I will stay on my current plan!

The above Vodafone link has a link to more information about that 2Mb/s slow speed. Quoting:

Hotspotting (tethering) is permitted from your mobile phone to your other personal devices only, but must not be used in a modem or as a substitute for a home internet service. The Ultra+ Plan has 30GB Hotspot Max Speed data for hotspotting (tethering). Once you’ve used 30GB Hotspot data, you can continue to use Hotspot data at speeds of up to 2Mbps.

So, looks like I have a grandfathered plan. Vodafone must have realised that people are using their phone as a hotspot, as the only means of Internet connection for all home devices. So now they have put in a lower tethering high-speed limit to discourage that.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:43 am
by user1111

For mobile I use giffgaff here in the UK, similar sort of sim only deal, £20/month around AUD$35 buys 100GB/month. Piggybacks on the O2 network. £35/month for unlimited. Both also include free domestic calls and texts. But I only use my smartphone as a phone, and only hotspot when out/about so tend to use relatively little data and therefore opt for a lower cost/lower data choice. Keep thinking about swapping over to using my phone as a hotspot however as my cable is north of £65/month (unlimited 100Mbs+, but asymetric so only 10Mbs/upload speeds). The cable also sustains all of the families connections so collectively quite a lot of monthly data. However I'm dubious about ditching cable as Murphy's law and the day I terminated is likely the day when phone/hotspot data would likely be curtailed. But could still be worthwhile as in many cases new sign ups tend to be given much better deals than old hats. Used to be the other way around, but no more.

When out/about I tend to cli, ssh into a server, lynx browser, and burn through just a fraction of the data that a gui might use. gui/browsing can eat GB's pretty quickly whereas with cli less than a GB/month can be way more than needed.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:20 am
by BarryK

Several hours later, now uploading 3.4.7. After that, 4.0.
That's going to take another several hours.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:09 am
by scsijon

?do you have aldi mobile over there, they have a 365gb 365days data only plan for $365, info on
https://www.whistleout.com.au/Broadband ... ile/Mobile
i've used it a time or two when i've needed it.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:08 pm
by BarryK

Yes, we do have Aldi Mobile, at least think we still do.

Easy Dunfell 4.0 has arrived:

viewtopic.php?t=6120


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:33 pm
by williwaw

The update uses rsync; however, the rsync server at ibiblio.org has recently become flakey -- seemingly randomly disconnecting. So, you might be better off updating using the old method,

Barry, have your troubles with rsync been exacerbated after you hit your usage cap and speed reduction?

I use a mobile hot spot also and usually need multiple tries to download anything from ibiblio. Update has only ever worked once for me after many tries. ibiblio is quite slow at times, and I am beginning to think that slow downloads and mobile networks just don't play well together.
my download speeds from ibiblio are typically 200 KB/sec, while the fastest I have ever seen from other servers with my mobile hotspot is 2 MB/sec (dropping to 100KB/sec once I cap out after 3Gb are consumed each month). All this for only $65 USD per month, so I envy the service you guys get there.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:45 am
by foxy1

I cant wait for Easyos Dunfell 4.0 coming to the raspberry pi, its speed is the main attraction on my pi and thank you for all your hard work and looking after us few pi owners.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:42 pm
by BarryK
williwaw wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:33 pm

Barry, have your troubles with rsync been exacerbated after you hit your usage cap and speed reduction?

I was having the problem before, at certain times of the day. But probably the speed reduction has exacerbated it.

I used rsync to re-upload the Dunfell image files, and even after reaching the 50GB limit, the slower speed wasn't tooo bad. Those image files are about 600MB each and were taking a couple of hours each to upload.
And rsync only disconnected a couple of times.


Re: EasyOS Dunfell 4.0 coming ...eventually

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:54 pm
by BarryK
foxy1 wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:45 am

I cant wait for Easyos Dunfell 4.0 coming to the raspberry pi, its speed is the main attraction on my pi and thank you for all your hard work and looking after us few pi owners.

This evening, have commenced a complete recompile in OpenEmbedded, aarch64 target. Same packages as used in Easy Dunfell x86_64.

Some changes to drivers of course. In the case of 'mesa', have enabled the 'vc4' and 'v3d' drivers.

It has been awhile since doing a aarch64 target compile in OE, so going to be interesting to find out if it gets right through.
Last time I did it, over a year ago, some packages did not compile, so just took them out. Nothing important got taken out.

That's the great thing about OE, it is a very sophisticated cross-compile environment. Running on a x86_64 host, can compile for many different target architectures.

I am expecting it to run all night, and tomorrow will have 900+ compiled packages. Unless a package fails to compile, then it will stop. I will have to get up periodically during the night to check. Then, I either figure out why the failure, or take it out.