Vanilla dpup 9.1.X observations

[pemasu]

I used simple_updater script for updating from 9.1.5 to 9.1.7. The script demanded to find in /dev/disk/by-label/ certain dpup names like vanilladpup_bios. I created vanilladpup_bios name for partition using gparted. After that simple_updater worked and updated sfs files. It also tried to update initrd.gz which is not found in 9.1.X series. The script ended with error.
I redownloaded kernel source sfs, which now loaded ok at bootup and I recompiled wl.ko alright.
I have previously installed libreoffice using synaptic-manager and it installed just fine. Also smplayer works from debian repo fine.
Just reminder. Smplayer and Xwayland dislikes each other, change output driver to x11 from preferences, or use xorg option.
I have used xorg, so that I can disable touchpad when writing using simple syndaemon script placed in Startup folder. I also enable tab to click with simple synclient script. Otherwise Xwayland has behaved also nicely.
I understood, this location is ok for feedback, if not, I remove or ask moderator to remove this post.

[dimkr]

I used simple_updater script for updating from 9.1.5 to 9.1.7. The script demanded to find in /dev/disk/by-label/ certain dpup names like vanilladpup_bios.

The updater in 9.1.7 no longer relies on labels. This change will only affect the update from 9.1.7, not updates to to 9.1.7.

It also tried to update initrd.gz which is not found in 9.1.X series.

It's unused. The upgrade to 9.1.8 shouldn't have this problem, the fix is included in 9.1.7.

I understood, this location is ok for feedback

Yes.

[Ramachandra Iyer]

Some of my observation/issue for your kind perusal.

1. CUPS or localhost:631 is not available.
2. After setting of etho , required to close the window manually. However, IP settings saved.
3. Systems hangs when not in use. ( May be not able to wake up after going sleep mod)

[pemasu]

3. Systems hangs when not in use. ( May be not able to wake up after going sleep mod)

I got that also. No other way get away from black screen than press power button.
I solved this by disabling screensaver ( I also changed to use Xorg but that was basically from different reason so that I can use synclient ja syndaemon apps for touchpad configuration )

[OscarTalks]

Yes, as I reported in the other thread:-
viewtopic.php?p=49218#p49218
System goes completely down if screensaver cuts in while using Xwayland.
Works OK if you switch to Xorg

[Ramachandra Iyer]

How to disable sleep mode/Screen saver.

[OscarTalks]

How to disable sleep mode/Screen saver.

Menu (Applications) > Setup > Puppy setup > Graphics / Screen > Screensaver > Untick "Enable screen saver" > OK button

[Airdale]

Very nice!! I decided to give this pup a try. Installed to a flash drive without difficulty for a test run. Seems to be working great!! Quick question though.... is it not possible to install a printer? Under applications==>Setup ==> Puppy setup, the printing button is grayed out.

[Ramachandra Iyer]

Yes. Possible. You have to install CUPS which is available at Synaptic package Manager Or through terminal apt install commands. I have installed Canon Network Printer at my office and working brilliantly. Though taken some time. Trail and error method.

[Ramachandra Iyer]

First install CUPS later specific printer drivers if not already available.Gutenprinter driver also compatible with most printers or specific have to download from printer manufacturers.

[Ramachandra Iyer]

I feel future for Vanilla Dpup than others once ready for final release. Thanks for providing wonderful OS.

[Airdale]

Yes. Possible. You have to install CUPS which is available at Synaptic package Manager Or through terminal apt install commands. I have installed Canon Network Printer at my office and working brilliantly. Though taken some time. Trail and error method.

Worked beautifully. Printing now with no trouble at all.

Thanks!!

[dimkr]

Very nice!! I decided to give this pup a try. Installed to a flash drive without difficulty for a test run. Seems to be working great!! Quick question though.... is it not possible to install a printer? Under applications==>Setup ==> Puppy setup, the printing button is grayed out.

Yes, CUPS is intentionally left out. I don't have a printer to test CUPS with, and prefer not to ship a broken feature.

Can you share the CUPS setup/configuration instructions?

[Ramachandra Iyer]

Unable to update firefox browser through apt install. Error as follows

E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

[dimkr]

Unable to update firefox browser through apt install.

This is intentional: apt upgrade is configured not to update any pre-installed package. The pre-installed packages are customized or trimmed by woof-CE, and some are partially replaced (for example, parts of coreutils are replaced with busybox). Upgrade of pre-installed packages using apt can break your system.

To upgrade the pre-installed packages, update Vanilla Dpup: the next weekly build has all Debian updates. But to upgrade packages you installed, you can (and should) use apt upgrade.

[Airdale]

Very nice!! I decided to give this pup a try. Installed to a flash drive without difficulty for a test run. Seems to be working great!! Quick question though.... is it not possible to install a printer? Under applications==>Setup ==> Puppy setup, the printing button is grayed out.

Yes, CUPS is intentionally left out. I don't have a printer to test CUPS with, and prefer not to ship a broken feature.

Can you share the CUPS setup/configuration instructions?

Sure thing. Really not much to it.

Installed CUPS from the package manager with its dependencies...

Then the printer setubutton in Puppy setup works..

Which is basically a shortcut to localhost:631

This brings up the CUPS interface, from which you can install your individual printer.

[pemasu]

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(evince:102279): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 19:23:50.323: Settings schema 'org.gnome.Evince' is not installed

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glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas

Schema creation is not automated. But manual creation fixes this.

/usr/local/petget/installpkg.sh script used to have this since 2012 ( Puppy Precise time ):

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#120523 precise puppy needs this... (refer also rc.update and 3builddistro)
if [ "`grep '/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas' /root/.packages/${DLPKG_NAME}.files`" != "" ];then
 [ -e /usr/bin/glib-compile-schemas ] && /usr/bin/glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas
fi
if [ "$(grep "/usr/lib${xARCHDIR}/gio/modules" /root/.packages/${DLPKG_NAME}.files)" != "" ];then
 [ -e /usr/bin/gio-querymodules ] && /usr/bin/gio-querymodules /usr/lib${xARCHDIR}/gio/modules
fi

Synaptic usage would need that kind of mechanism also.

[dimkr]

Do you still have the apt logs? If not, you can find them in /var/log.

There's a package post-installation script that's supposed to run glib-compile-schemas.

[pemasu]

I have. Do you mean /var/log/apt/term.log ?

I can send snippet from installation to your pm box.

[dimkr]

Try to apt install libgtk3-perl.

[pemasu]

Installing first libgtk3-perl et plures amica and after that installing evince et plures amica and then launching evince from terminal resulted in successful accomplishment. Missing package caused that schema was not placed or compiled at the first run.

[dimkr]

Yesterday I found out that the firewall tray icon runs iptables every 2s to see if the firewall has been enabled or disabled. That's crazy, considering the fact the firewall is usually started on boot and never stopped, stays disabled forever, or doesn't start on boot but gets enabled at some point. There's no need to check every 2s, because the script that starts the firewall can notify the tray icon about changes. I wonder how this frequent polling affects battery life and overall responsiveness.

I hope to get these two merged in time for 9.1.10:

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/2880
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/2879

[wdt]

Interesting, some observations
man seg faults
very little info on efilinux.conf.... anywhere ... sometime works better without 0: ,, but often
gives file not found messages or (perhaps) a hang loading frugal (all this on SAS)
I have got it to boot on a SAS drive once or twice ... only (uses mptsas module)
Thanks for changing to parted so >2TB drives work

[williwaw]

using updater from 9.1.7 to 9.1.10. everything seems fine once I got a decent download speed from github.

half a dozen earlier tries with slower download speeds failed to complete. script uses wget or curl? and maybe too many timeout/resumes?

[wdt]

9.1.11 (26/2/22):
With time travel too!!!!
What module was that again???

[dimkr]

9.1.11 (26/2/22):

9.1.11 will be released on February 26th, what's wrong with that?

[wdt]

Joke,, not intended to offend
BTW, can it be shipped with screensaver turned off?
If it goes to sleep, and the only recovery is a hard reset, the fs can and likely will be damaged

[Keef]

I'll second what wdt said about the screensaver. No way out of it apart from hitting the power button.
Dell laptop with AMD graphics (Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT] )

[williwaw]

I'll second what wdt said about the screensaver.

seems to be a suspend action that occurs on my laptop but not on my desktop
deleted upper and did not have a problem until I rebooted with changes

[dimkr]

BTW, can it be shipped with screensaver turned off?

I think I'll have some free time to debug this screensaver issue next week.

EDIT: 9.1.11 will mitigate this issue