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More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:22 am
by Lassar

Been trying out the bionicpup64 puppy.

Not ready for prime time.

Seems to be unstable.

Are any of the higher ubuntu puppies more stable than bionicpup64?


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:18 am
by Feek

Bionicpup64 is stable and used by many users for a long time.

Try to find the cause of the unstability on your machine.

If you did not updated the system, do it this way:
Quickpet->Bionicpup updates


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:29 am
by bigpup

What is the make and model of the computer?
Specs if you know them? If not, we can look them up by make and model.

Seems to be unstable.

Give us some specifics on why you think it is unstable?
What is it doing?

Fossapup64 9.5 is the next higher newer version of Puppy based on Ubuntu.
viewtopic.php?t=820


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:37 am
by rockedge

I've run Bionic64 and Bionic32 as serious web servers and quite a few network camera security set ups, all run with Bionic rock freaking solid. Fully pimped out with opencv and all it takes to do motion detection, object and face recognition. They'll tell you if someone is wearing a mask or not if so desired.

I have such solid performance, I've hesitated to migrate to Fossapup. I use a lot of WDL-Void. Some jwm - rox and some xfce4 but I'll build those distros using Bionic. Just getting some Fossapup64 systems really going the last few months.

Not sure what you are describing as "unstable", tell us some more of the symptoms and what your attempting to do. "Normal" operations shouldn't be that troublesome and I have not experienced that unless I was experimenting with some package or written some buggy code crashing something.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:39 am
by bigpup

It would help if you tell us how Bionicpup64 is installed.
Frugal or full?
Hope you did a frugal install.
What type drive is it on?
Hard drive, USB, SSD, SD card, etc....?
What format is the partition you installed it on?

If this a a new install of Bionicpup64 8.0, that you just did.

There is a chance the install did not go 100% correct.
The download of the Bionicpup64 8.0 ISO was not good.
It does happen sometimes.

If you did a frugal install to a drive partition formatted fat32 or ntfs.
The file system on it could be fragmented.
That can cause problems, if Bionicpup64 was installed, before you defrag the partition file system.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:37 am
by JASpup

Load up Fossa and see if you like it. I'm content in Xenial but would skip Bionic for Fossa if Xenial became outdated. Updates don't seem like a bad idea.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:58 am
by mikewalsh

Well, if Bionicpup64 IS unstable, then how come so many people are running it as their "daily driver".....including me?

I first tried it during the 'beta' testing stage @v7.9.3, I think. It wasn't perfect, at that point, but then few things are before they reach RC status. I messed around with it for a while, on & off.

Fast-forward nearly 3 years. I installed it on this new rig around 18 months ago. It was absolutely solid, though there was an issue with the network wizards and my specific ethernet chip; it point-blank refused to re-connect cleanly every time without going through some ridiculous shenanigans.

I re-downloaded, and re-installed. Re-ran all the updates. No change; still the same issue. This rig, however, is one of these modern desktops that has built-in wireless networking in addition to ethernet. Ozsouth compiled a wireless driver for me to try.....ever since when, it's been about the most reliable Pup I think I've ever used to date.

As bigpup says, it could be a bad download (it's happened to me before now). Could be a duff install. Could be hardware-related; it DOES happen. It could be so many things. DO persevere with it, because it's a generally solid, reliable Puppy.

Mike. ;)


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:23 pm
by Lassar

It is a Frugal install from lick.

What makes me think it is unstable is fixmenus would not work
for a while.

In Pale Moon the display of the browser sometimes show blue at the top
showing rendering problems.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:37 pm
by Grey
Lassar wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:23 pm

What makes me think it is unstable is fixmenus would not work for a while.

Are you absolutely sure that you know the purpose of this function?

Lassar wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:23 pm

In Pale Moon the display of the browser sometimes show blue at the top showing rendering problems.

Doesn't prove anything. These may be the "tricks" of the browser itself.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:02 pm
by snoring_cat
Lassar wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:23 pm

What makes me think it is unstable is fixmenus would not work
for a while.

In Pale Moon the display of the browser sometimes show blue at the top
showing rendering problems.

If you are running fixmenus manually, you might have to go to Logout and select restart window manager (which does "jwm -reload" and "jwm -restart" for you).

If blue shows up again on the top of Palemoon, please try to take a screenshot showing this, and post it here. Take A Shot or similar should do a desktop screenshot for you.

When I was running Bionic as my main OS, the only problem I had was that sometimes I had to install a not-so-common network driver. Loading not-so-common network drivers still affects me on Fossa, Linux Mint, etc. What OS are you coming from, before Puppy Linux?


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 am
by BologneChe

bionicpup64 is a stable release. Of all the creations of @666philb , this is the one I prefer to use on a daily basis. tahrpup is also another beautiful creation.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:29 pm
by bigpup

Pale Moon make sure you have the latest version.
Pale Moon>Help>Check for updates


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:43 am
by Lassar

Here is the picture you asked for.

Image

Was using xenialp64 before, and did not have any trouble with it.

Window manager is Icewm.

In bionicpup64 JWM does not have trouble with svgs, and Icewm does.

Go figure.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:56 am
by bigpup

Bionicpup64 8.0 has an update feature
Quickpet program icon on desktop.
Quickpet>Info>Bionicpup updates
Reboot updating the save so new changes are now being used.
May not help, but it will help overall operation of Bionicppup64.

Normally the color of the top of a window is controlled by the Window manager theme being used.
JWM uses select-able different themes.

I assume IceWM has the same ability, with themes to select to use.

Give us some info on how you installed IceWM.
There is a chance you did not get everything needed.

Problems with a non-normal (not JWM) window manager is not Bionicpup64 issue.
It is an issue with the non-normal window manager.


Re: More higher stable version than bionicpup64?

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:16 am
by JASpup

Curiously opposite here of Bologne - Tahr would not boot my 64 machine, and Fossa runs cleaner than Bionic.

So it's Xenial and Fossa.