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How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:54 am
by number77

Hello
I am running Xenial64 on a Dell Latitude E6320.
I have a boot-able Acronis True Image on a USB key. It is so useful I almost don't want to use it in case I damage it.
Is there any way I can make an ISO of it to store and if needed rewrite a USB key, with say easydd.
Help would be appreciated.
Thanks
number77


Re: How to make ISO from USB key

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:11 am
by gilles

Hello,
Have a look there : viewtopic.php?t=4296


Re: How to make ISO from USB key

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:24 pm
by number77
gilles wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:11 am

Hello,
Have a look there : viewtopic.php?t=4296

Do you mean to use clonezilla?


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:15 am
by bigpup

Xenial64 7.5 should have this program.
menu->Setup->Remaster Puppy Live-CD
It will make a new ISO file of the Xenialpup64 as you now have it.
It does not keep settings, because it is making a new ISO you want to be able to use on any computer.
Any programs you have added should be in the new ISO.

Start it and read carefully the information provided as you use it.
Make sure you understand the selections you make before you make them.
It takes time to make a new ISO, so do not rush it.
Good to have the original Xenialpup64 7.5 ISO mounted by clicking on it in ROX file manager.
The program needs to get some needed files from it.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:19 am
by bigpup

There is also a remaster program here:
viewtopic.php?t=1694


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:15 pm
by number77
bigpup wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:15 am

Xenial64 7.5 should have this program.
menu->Setup->Remaster Puppy Live-CD
It will make a new ISO file of the Xenialpup64 as you now have it.
It does not keep settings, because it is making a new ISO you want to be able to use on any computer.
Any programs you have added should be in the new ISO.

Start it and read carefully the information provided as you use it.
Make sure you understand the selections you make before you make them.
It takes time to make a new ISO, so do not rush it.
Good to have the original Xenialpup64 7.5 ISO mounted by clicking on it in ROX file manager.
The program needs to get some needed files from it.

Its not to make an ISO of Puppy but to make an ISO of a USB key with bootable acronis True Image.


Re: How to make ISO OF a USB key?

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:58 pm
by mikeslr

This should work. I can confirm that everything works except having neither an Acronis True Image nor the application which uses them I can’t tell you anything about the usefulness of the ISO created by the below recipe.

0. The Puppy you use probably has ‘packit’ installed; likely it will show up via Menu>Utilities>Packit. It it’s not there, you should be able to install it via Puppy Package Manager. If not you’ll find it here, https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtop ... lit=packit. Install it if not already present. Once present packit is available via the Right-Click Menu, which we’ll get to shortly.
1. Plug in the USB-Key which holds the Acronis True Image.
2. Mount [Left-Click] the desktop-drive icon which appeared when you did Step 1. Note it’s label. For the purpose of this recipe I’ll refer to it as sdX.
3. File-browse up until you see the folder named sdX as a folder: Start Rox; click Home on its toolbar; click the Up-Arrow; Left-Click the mnt folder – you should see sdX.
4. Right-Click sdX and from the pop-up window select Packit. A GUI will open. After configured it will look something like this:

Packit-GUI.png
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5. Click the radio-button next to mkisofs.
6. Click the ‘folder’ button across from the “Output Folder” and CAUTION :!: :!: :!: select somewhere on Puppy’s Home Partition. [By default Packit will create an ISO next to the folder you’ve chosen to have it work with. However, sdX is in Puppy’s ‘mnt’ folder which is a ‘special purpose’ folder used by Puppys. If anything is put there other than by Puppy, itself, things can get screwed up]. In the example GUI, I selected /mnt/home/my-stuff/temp, a sub-folder on my Home Partition.
6a -- Optional, you can change the name in the "Archive Name" field to whatever you want; for example Acronis-Image-Backup. [I don't know if spaces between words are permitted].
7. Click the “Pack it!” button.

An ISO will be created at the location you selected in Step 6.


Re: How to make ISO OF a USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:41 am
by number77
mikeslr wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:58 pm

This should work. I can confirm that everything works except having neither an Acronis True Image nor the application which uses them I can’t tell you anything about the usefulness of the ISO created by the below recipe.

An ISO will be created at the location you selected in Step 6.

That looks exactly what I am looking for. I am a bit worried about destroying another Puppy so could I select to send the ISO to a folder on an external HDD.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:24 am
by Grey
number77 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:54 am

I have a boot-able Acronis True Image on a USB key.

PackIt can make an ISO image, but apparently this image will not be bootable. I suppose later it is planned to write it back to the flash drive and Acronis will not boot.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:53 am
by number77
Grey wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:24 am
number77 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:54 am

I have a boot-able Acronis True Image on a USB key.

PackIt can make an ISO image, but apparently this image will not be bootable. I suppose later it is planned to write it back to the flash drive and Acronis will not boot.

Thats a shame. Is there any way round this.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:49 am
by Grey
number77 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:53 am

Is there any way round this.

Make an exact copy with easydd, which you yourself mentioned. Or USBImager, somewhere on the forum it is available. In general, anything that can make an exact copy not by files, but by bytes.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:46 pm
by mikeslr

Easydd, viewtopic.php?p=11559#p11559
MikeWalsh's Easydd-portable, with instructions and graphics, https://oldforum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=116481

My guess is that you'll have to have both the Source USB-Key and the Target USB-Key plugged in at the same time, and remember which is which.
As with my recipe for using packit --sorry about that :oops:, but it would have looked nice ;) and you wouldn't have worried as much :roll: -- using Easydd's selection tool you'll have to file-browse UP into the mnt folder to select the Source USB-Key,

IIRC, USBImager is 64-bit ONLY and requires a newer glibc than is found in older Puppys.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:21 pm
by bigpup

Have you seen this:
https://kb.acronis.com/getmedia
It says they offer a downloadable ISO of True Image.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:22 pm
by rockedge

I've made boot-able ISO's with PackIt but I'll have to look what I did again


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:31 pm
by number77
bigpup wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:21 pm

Have you seen this:
https://kb.acronis.com/getmedia
It says they offer a downloadable ISO of True Image.

Thanks bigpup that does solve the main problem. I do sometimes want to make an ISO so now I have a better idea how to.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:34 pm
by number77
rockedge wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:22 pm

I've made boot-able ISO's with PackIt but I'll have to look what I did again

That would be usefull. Is grub2 possible to make it boot.


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:11 pm
by wizard

@number77

If your goal is to learn how to make a iso copy that can be restored creating a bootable usb then do that. If however, you just want to backup the bootable usb I suggest you try either:

Clonezilla, and you already know not to try the version in the ppm, instead download the iso from their site and install on a usb
or
Rescuezilla, download the iso from their site and install on a usb

Clonezilla has a text based interface and is not very intuitive, but works well
Rescuezilla includes Clonezilla with a more intuitive GUI interface, plus it has several other useful tools included.

Or, you could make yourself a Ventoy usb viewtopic.php?t=4161 and put Clonezilla, Rescuezilla, and Acronis all on one usb

wizard


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:16 pm
by number77
wizard wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:11 pm

@number77

If your goal is to learn how to make a iso copy that can be restored creating a bootable usb then do that. If however, you just want to backup the bootable usb I suggest you try either:

Clonezilla, and you already know not to try the version in the ppm, instead download the iso from their site and install on a usb
or
Rescuezilla, download the iso from their site and install on a usb

Clonezilla has a text based interface and is not very intuitive, but works well
Rescuezilla includes Clonezilla with a more intuitive GUI interface, plus it has several other useful tools included.

Or, you could make yourself a Ventoy usb viewtopic.php?t=4161 and put Clonezilla, Rescuezilla, and Acronis all on one usb

wizard

No, the idea was to backup my accronis True Image bootable USB key to a ISO file that I could store on ext HDD in case of corruption.
I have now downloaded the ISO from Accronis, thanks bigpup.
I will not use Clonezilla again in any form.
But thanks for all of your help, I have learnt a good bit about ISO's.
But thanks for all of your help.
number77


Re: How to make ISO from USB key?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:53 pm
by williwaw
number77 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:16 pm

No, the idea was to backup my accronis True Image bootable USB key to a ISO file that I could store on ext HDD in case of corruption.

if you want to restore an image to a usb that boots just like the original, an image that contains the original bootloader and partitioning is called for. an iso may not be your best choice.

search for a utility that makes and restores img.gz filetypes. if you need a gui, it will most likely be a front end for the dd command.

however, running dd from the terminal for what you want to do is well documented and a first choice for many.