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GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:15 am
by MRF1337

Hello, help me solve the problem, in general, I downloaded the disk image of Puppy Linux FossaPup64 9.5 from the official website, wrote it to a USB flash drive using the balenaEtcher program, booted from a USB flash drive and get this error:

I'm sorry, I'm a beginner so I don't know all the nuances, thank you for your help :thumbup2:

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Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:05 am
by Feek

Hi,
Fossapup64 was not released as a disk image. But it´s ok, I think you´ve meant the .iso file ;) .

The cause of the problem is probably the Balena etcher. This program seems to have a problem with Puppy.

Please read the following link and try to use another program (in your current operating system) to install Fossapup64 on a usb flash drive.
https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=157

Some time ago I was succesfull with Rufus in Windows7.


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:13 am
by MRF1337

Thank you, most likely the problem is not in the program, I also tried the dd utility from Linux and the same error, now I will try to find other programs to write to a USB flash drive


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:43 am
by Feek

There were more reports of failure with Balena Etcher (when used to install puppy on a usb flash drive).

Another possible way:
if your machine has an optical drive you can burn the .iso file to a cd (dvd) as image, boot from the optical drive into a live puppy and then use its installation tools.


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:32 pm
by bigpup

I also tried the dd utility from Linux and the same error

Exactly what dd command did you use??

Was this USB driver ever used to boot an operating system other than Fossapup64 9.5?

Also, Fossapup64 9.5 has a small bug.
If any other USB is plugged in. The boot process gets confused on which USB to find the needed files.
So, make sure the Fossapup USB is the only one plugged in.


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:36 pm
by mikeslr

"most likely the problem is not in the program". Puppys do not function like other Linuxes, are constructed differently and Balena Etcher isn't constructed to handle those differences.
Feek "Please read the following link and try to use another program (in your current operating system) to install Fossapup64 on a usb flash drive.
https://www.forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=157", noting bigpup's caution about fossapup's small bug.. Attention 666philb.
I have also successfully used rufus.

Or try jafadmin's remastered Fossapup and instructions, viewtopic.php?p=26898#p26898

Or try the Window's version of ventoy from here, https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases following tosim's and especially Clarity's instructions on this thread, viewtopic.php?t=4161. Clarity provided a link to this Youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3p-f_Cwa4g. Thanks, Clarity.

Once you have your first Puppy up and running you will be able to use Puppys tools to manage and run Puppys 'the Puppy way'.


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:45 pm
by rcrsn51

I suspect that some machines have trouble booting the new UEFI-compatible Puppy ISOs, regardless of the imaging tool that was used.

I would try an older version, like Tahrpup.

[Edit] I'm not sure if the Tahrpup ISO is dd-able.


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:40 pm
by bigpup

MRF1337,

What is the specs or make and model of the computer?


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:19 am
by cthisbear

A couple of days ago I had enormous problems booting 3 Toshiba usbs SM02 Series >> 16gb.

I run a few different booters to deal with this crap...but Rufus,, YUMI and even Puppy would not boot this Freak Show.
Oh! Hapopy Days...grhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Anyway I decided on WinToBootic which a mate uses to install Windows 10.
Used that but of course it formats to NTFS.

No matter, I had had enough so next I used Bootice from the old Falcon boot cd...an old version 32bit >> Version 1.3.3.2
I have a link for all the above.

This is what you do with it.
" The process for making this into a bootable USB stick is much easier than in v4.5.

Here's the premise: there are two types of boot sectors that make something bootable:
- An MBR (master boot record) is in the very first sector of the drive. Usually it just says "Boot the active partition's PBR". It contains a list of partitions, and points to the correct PBR to boot.
- A PBR (partition boot record) is at the very start of the *partition* (not the disk) and contains the code that boots the system from that partition.

A Flash drive (or other removable drive, e.g. an SD card) only has a PBR since it only contains one partition. To create an MBR (unnecessary), you would need to reformat the drive. You can get away with only using a PBR. Some Flash drives may be using an MBR as well - so we just need to check that.

Here's how you do it:
---------------------

Use any flash drive. -- YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REFORMAT IT. -- NTFS or FAT32 will both work. FAT32 formatted with 16kb sectors is best for most Flash drives.

In BootICE, SELECT YOUR FLASH DRIVE (important!) and do the following:
--- Click "Process MBR". If it indicates "Unknown", skip this part.

Otherwise, verify that it's set to "Windows NT 5.x/6.x MBR".
Install it if needed. You can't really mess this up.

--- Click "Process PBR".
It will usually say "Unknown" here, but if it says NTLDR or BOOTMGR,
it's been formatted by Windows to run the Windows boot loader.
We need to change this to GRUB4DOS.
Select GRUB4DOS and click "Install/Config".
Use the default options.

--- Click "Parts Manage".
If any partitions are shown here, you've got an MBR (that's OK).
Select the partition and make sure it's Active -
if it is, "Activate" will be greyed out.
Click it if needed, and hit Close.

You're done! You've now got a bootable F4UBCD Flash drive.
No external tools needed! :)

""""""""""'

I copied my Puppy Menu list menu from previous Pups, the grldr off Falcon and Dpup Stretch,
held my breath and rebooted...and now all 3 Usbs work.
Lesson for others..steer clear of Toshiba usbs.

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Links:

https://www.filehorse.com/download-wintobootic/

https://bootice.en.softonic.com/

https://falconfour.wordpress.com/2013/0 ... -6-f4ubcd/

Generally I always use Major Geeks..a trusted site for downloads.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/

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And while replying here i came across this >>>> WoeUSB

WoeUSB
https://beebom.com/best-rufus-alternat ... ux-macos/

WoeUSB is an interesting app which lets you create a Windows bootable USB drive on a Linux machine.

Basically, if you use Ubuntu or any other Linux distro, you can use WoeUSB to flash Windows ISO image on a
removable drive.
The best part about WoeUSB is that, unlike most Linux programs, it has a GUI interface and you can build a USB
installer in a few clicks.
No need to mess with commands and Terminal! Further, it supports Windows from Vista to the latest version of
Windows 10. And it is compatible with older Legacy BIOS, MBR partition and the newer UEFI mode.
All in all, WoeUSB is a godsend for people who want Rufus like features on Linux for creating Windows
bootable drives.

Pros
Best for creating Windows USB bootable drives on Linux or Ubuntu
Simple and easy to use
Flashing speed is pretty good

Cons
Limited to Linux OS Platform Availability: Linux
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I forgot to add some boot menus for multipups on one USB...look in this post.

viewtopic.php?p=31004#p31004

Cheers...Chris.


Re: GRUB4DOS Booting find /menu.lst

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:31 am
by JASpup

What does menu.lst look like?

When Puppy is on the boot partition and doesn't boot, if it will boot at all, it appears usually due to the menu contents.

http://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.p ... 547#p38547