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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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If use X.Org instead, the terminal will not be transparent. You can try any terminal, but none of them will be transparent. The terminal under FossaDog can be transparent.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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After crash has occurred:

~$ cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 8213144 kB
MemFree: 7303356 kB
MemAvailable: 6964536 kB
Buffers: 8632 kB
Cached: 593672 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 208836 kB
Inactive: 458872 kB
Active(anon): 88484 kB
Inactive(anon): 336332 kB
Active(file): 120352 kB
Inactive(file): 122540 kB
Unevictable: 0 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
HighTotal: 7485488 kB
HighFree: 6802064 kB
LowTotal: 727656 kB
LowFree: 501292 kB
SwapTotal: 8020648 kB
SwapFree: 8020648 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 65448 kB
Mapped: 79412 kB
Shmem: 359412 kB
KReclaimable: 57352 kB
Slab: 113912 kB
SReclaimable: 57352 kB
SUnreclaim: 56560 kB
KernelStack: 1896 kB
PageTables: 3292 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 12127220 kB
Committed_AS: 851772 kB
VmallocTotal: 122880 kB
VmallocUsed: 63112 kB
VmallocChunk: 0 kB
Percpu: 1568 kB
HardwareCorrupted: 0 kB
AnonHugePages: 0 kB
ShmemHugePages: 0 kB
ShmemPmdMapped: 0 kB
FileHugePages: 0 kB
FilePmdMapped: 0 kB
HugePages_Total: 0
HugePages_Free: 0
HugePages_Rsvd: 0
HugePages_Surp: 0
Hugepagesize: 2048 kB
Hugetlb: 0 kB
DirectMap4k: 10232 kB
DirectMap2M: 890880 kB
~$

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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@peebee Please try https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 1384620931, I think 62e0df6 should fix the problem for you.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Can't use gjs
Run error after installation
Gjs-ERROR **: 09:57:31.507: Could not initialize Javascript

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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dimkr wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:46 am

@peebee Please try https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... 1384620931, I think 62e0df6 should fix the problem for you.

Thank you - yes the crash no longer occurs with this new version of x86 kernel 5.10.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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After changing a lot of settings and installing a lot of software, the terminal still cannot be transparent

Different transparent modification attempts are installed and configured. Even if it is transparent elsewhere, the terminal still cannot be transparent. Is it because the system has streamlined some X libraries?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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linuxunix wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:19 am

Is it because the system has streamlined some X libraries?

Nope.

Try X.Org, but you'll need to run an X compositor like picom for transparency to work. Fossapup64 has it enabled by default, as far as I remember.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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dimkr wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:54 am
linuxunix wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:19 am

Is it because the system has streamlined some X libraries?

Nope.

Try X.Org, but you'll need to run an X compositor like picom for transparency to work. Fossapup64 has it enabled by default, as far as I remember.

Fossapup64 can be transparent on the terminal, but Vanilla Dpup has been tried many times, but it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work to start picom after installing picom, but other windows are transparent, and the terminal still can’t define the transparent appearance... It’s not just this problem, like Foliate doesn’t. Law reading, etc. may also be caused by the same reason, and I want to solve this problem.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Make sure picom is running, not just installed.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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When picom is running, other windows can be transparent, but the terminal itself is not transparent, which is part of the terminal. For example, the xfce4-terminal option can use a transparent background, but it does not work. Fossapup64 is possible. And not only this problem, it may also cause other problems. For example, if you can't read the book with Foliate, it is normal to use Foliate in fossapup.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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terminal still can’t define the transparent appearance... It’s not just this problem, like Foliate doesn’t. Law reading, etc. may also be caused by the same reason

If you are using Xorg, is it using the correct driver for your video card? (Nvidia, Radeon, Intel ....)
If Xorg can't initialize the driver it might drop back to the Vesa driver or the framebuffer driver (fb)
which may not support the alpha channel or hardware acceleration.

This should tell you if you have Xorg dri 3d acceleration.

glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'

If it says no, Xorg may have dropped back to Vesa.

what does this show?
grep 'loading driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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~$ glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'
direct rendering: Yes
~$

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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How do vanilladpup-9.0.5 connect to the wireless network?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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@linuxunix Use the networking traay icon. If it's the 32-bit version, I think it's broken in 9.0.5.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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dimkr wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:37 pm

@linuxunix Use the networking traay icon. If it's the 32-bit version, I think it's broken in 9.0.5.

I am 64-bit, but there is no network tray icon. How can I make the tray icon come out?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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williams2 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:20 am

terminal still can’t define the transparent appearance... It’s not just this problem, like Foliate doesn’t. Law reading, etc. may also be caused by the same reason

If you are using Xorg, is it using the correct driver for your video card? (Nvidia, Radeon, Intel ....)
If Xorg can't initialize the driver it might drop back to the Vesa driver or the framebuffer driver (fb)
which may not support the alpha channel or hardware acceleration.

This should tell you if you have Xorg dri 3d acceleration.

glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'

If it says no, Xorg may have dropped back to Vesa.

what does this show?
grep 'loading driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

I tried many methods and installed a lot of software libraries, but the terminal still cannot be transparent, that is, other windows are transparent and normal, but the transparency setting of the terminal does not take effect. What is the reason?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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linuxunix wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:25 am

I am 64-bit, but there is no network tray icon. How can I make the tray icon come out?

Try this:

/etc/init.d/dbus start
/etc/init.d/connman start
connman-ui-gtk

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Thank you, but it still doesn’t work, that is, connman-ui-gtk runs on the taskbar and it flashes and disappears. It’s been repeated several times, and it prompts when running on the terminal.
connman-ui
Then it automatically exits, and there is no flash in the taskbar. Is there any other version or alternative available?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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9.0.9 is out, and brings nothing but more fixes.

As usual, you can find the list of issues closed in https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ate=closed.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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dimkr wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:39 am

9.0.9 is out, and brings nothing but more fixes.

As usual, you can find the list of issues closed in https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ate=closed.

The terminal transparency problem is still unresolved, and I don’t know what caused it. I tried several computers.

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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dimkr wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:39 am

9.0.9 is out, and brings nothing but more fixes.

As usual, you can find the list of issues closed in https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ate=closed.

~$ connman-ui-gtk
connman-ui
~$ connman-ui-gtk
connman-ui
~$
Downloading 9.09 is the same problem, but I don’t know it conflicts with that software, connman-ui-gtk crashes

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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linuxunix wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:02 am

The terminal transparency problem is still unresolved, and I don’t know what caused it. I tried several computers.

I still haven't looked at this issue, because there are more important issues to fix first. My spare time is limited, and that's when I work on Vanilla Dpup.

If you (or somebody else) wants to help me fix this - go ahead.

linuxunix wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:07 am

Downloading 9.09 is the same problem, but I don’t know it conflicts with that software, connman-ui-gtk crashes

Is it with or without a savefile?
Does this happen when you boot with pfix=ram? (= no save file)
Does it crash after starting, or simply doesn't start?
What's the output of connman-ui-gtk?
Is it x86_64 or x86?
Can you share the output of ps aux?

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Good afternoon, dimkr! Now using version 9.0.9. Perfect functioning on LIVAx2 (mini pc connected to TV), basically for browsing and streaming. Also great on my PC with all apps working. I compiled the 5.10.76-Dpup64 kernel, in honor of my new battle system. I am really very satisfied! :thumbup:

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Duprate wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:35 pm

I compiled the 5.10.76-Dpup64 kernel, in honor of my new battle system.

The release notes don't mention this, but every Vanilla Dpup comes with the latest bug and security fixes from Debian, plus the latest 5.10.x kernel. You don't have to build it yourself :)

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In a previous post, I gave details about my Dpup64 installation. From the ISO, I just use puppy_vanilladpup_9.0.9.sfs, renamed to 01-filesystem_9.0.9.sfs. The kernel I use the latest version of "peebee" or do my own compilation. The intrd, I use the "Wiak". Some "Fredx181" apps like "Load Module" for additional .sfs files. But, your work, "puppy_vanilladpup_9.0.9.sfs" I don't change, I just rename it. This is the way I use all the systems I use (FatDog64, DebianDog Bullseye, Slacko64 8.2.1, Makulu Linux and Vanilla Dpup), all in frugal installations, without savefiles and "wiak" style overlayfs. No AUFS.

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The network is set up, now that the terminal transparency problem is unresolved, no reason can be found

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Vanilla Dpup64: The work as a whole is more important than the small setbacks we might face.
Its virtues: Very small, it only has what is necessary, leaving the user free to customize their own system. However, for novice users, it is ready to use.
In my opinion (if it's worth anything), it's currently the most important and well done project, within the "puppy linux" universe.
Because it makes things simple, and only simple things work.
Congratulations "dimkr", God keep you healthy and willing to continue your project for a long time... :thumbup2:

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Thank you @Duprate :)

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Re: Vanilla Dpup (x86 and x86_64)

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Now testing Vanilla Dpup x86_64 version 9.0.10 with devx loaded
Wanted to compile MPlayer release version 1.4 with GUI enabled
Needed to add package yasm-1.3.0 which I built from source
Configure script gave an error suggesting that zlib is missing, but it is installed.
Adding /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and also /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu directories to LD_LIBRARY_PATH in /etc/profile fixed this
Same in the 32 bit Vanilla Dpup but with the corresponding i386-linux-gnu directories in /lib and /usr/lib obviously
Not sure if this helps with anything, but just thought I would report it

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@OscarTalks It should work without LD_LIBRARY_PATH, because /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu.conf has both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu. It should work if you run ldconfig after loading devx.

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