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BionicPup32 freezes when I leave it for a while without touching anything, it returns to its senses when I move the touchpad. It's annoying when I watch movies and everything freezes, since I have to move the touchpad every so often instead of relaxing and enjoyed myself.
PD: My English is intermediate, forgive mistakes.
Hi @SilverR02,
Menue/Applications > Desktop > ScreenSaver Control > Disable (or high numerical value for Delay)
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It din't work
You say "everything freezes". Does freeze the entire operating system or just the screen goes black?
Do you use the latest version of Bionicpup32 (BionicPup32-8.0+28)?
Yes, I using the lastest version and yes, the entire OS freezes, until I move the mouse cursor and it runs as normal.
You can try to monitor the use of the ram and see whether it is not overloaded.
On the other hand, if the reason of freezing would be a lack of ram I doubt the waking up could be possible through a move of touchpad.
I encountered in a Puppy (don't know what version it was) with a similar behaviour. During playing videos on the internet the screensaver was always automatically activated and till I moved the mouse I could only hear the sound of the video.
So in such case would help to turn the screensaver off as @one suggested...
The RAM is no overloaded and the CPU is no suffering, I noticed while monitoring the Task Manager while listening to music ... and it still froze an the audio was hideously stuck. Same as always: moving the cursor fixed it temporarily. Turn off screensaver don't work
Ok.
Another simple thing that can sometimes cause problems can be that the .iso file is not intact after downloading. That's why it is good to check it after download with a hash tool (pupmd5sum or similar).
AFAIK the Bionicpup32 is favourite and frequently used version of Puppy and I didn't notice another similar report about freezing. The problem as such does not seem to be a bug. It can be about your hardware vs. kernel. I'm not expert on this but you can try to submit your issue directly in Bionicpup32 section on this forum.
What is your setting in Puppy Event Manager under the Power tab? Change the interval setting to "0" if it is not. You can also run the following command to see if it makes a difference:
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xset s off dpms 0 0 0 -dpmsAlso: Open the /usr/local/pup_event/pup_event_timeout60 script as text with Geany and report what you see in line numbers 20 and 42
Command written, problem persists.
Line 20
[ "$POWERTIMEOUT" = "" ] && POWERTIMEOUT=0
Line 42
[ $MOUSECNT -ge $POWERTIMEOUT ] && wmpoweroff
Computer specs? Could be a kernel/firmware issue. The kernel that comes with Bionic 32 must be used with the fdrv (which has the firmware). Make sure the fdrv is also loaded. You can also try a kernel swap. If you have an old machine an, older kernel may work better with your hardware. I have an old laptop and although the standard kernel which comes with Bionic functions well, I have an annoying delay at startup. So I've changed to an older kernel which sorted the problem.
I also though about changing the kernel to old version
Intel Atom N270 @ 1.60 GHz
1 GB RAM
4 GB MicroSD/USB Drive (I installed in both)
That's low specs. Definitely use an older kernel. All kernels newer than version 4.4 have problems with my old machine using all Puppys. I'm running a version 4.1 kernel. You also need to use a swapfile or swap partition if you don't have one yet or even use an older Puppy like Stretch or Xenial (also with a swapfile/partition). Personally, I use my own heavily customised version of Precise (in this case with a newer kernel than the original one that came with the release).
Great! Can you tell me where and how I can downgrade the Kernel?
How to change the kernel
viewtopic.php?f=157&t=3228
Pup-sysinfo->sys-specs->kernel
This will tell you the kernel that is being used by the running Bionicpup32.
I do it manually. Try this old kernel here: https://ia803405.us.archive.org/view_ar ... .5_PAE.iso Download the vmlinuz and zdrv_tahr_6.0.5 files > these files replace your existing vmlinuz, fdrv and zdrv files > rename the zdrv_tahr_6.0.5 file to the name of the previous bionic zdrv > reboot > report back.
I installed the kernel 3.1 retro and the screen not does start when load X. I guess I'll try the amethyst thing
Don't work
Hi this is looks about hardware problem not puppy. Smailar situation i have long ago on ubuntu installed on my sony vaio laptop, somtime all freze and when i wont use touchpad again nothing back to normal, i find some solution i use ctrl+alt F1 to go terminal without x and back to xmode again and my all apps was off but stop be freeze and touchpad work again. Meybe this is super smailar situation. I repair that editing Grub2 boot manager then all fixed pernamently but i not remember now what was problem. Still Puppy use Grub4Dos.
I have tried with Windows 7 (live USB) and the problem doesn't occur, only with Puppy Linux it happens
Does this total freeze occur whilst working on the machine, for example when watching videos or does it only occur when the machine is idle and left unattended. Also - have you noticed any specific time window (time lapse) before this problem occurs?
I don't know how did you installed Bionicpup32 and whether you can easilly add another puppy.
If yes, look around, there are more 32 bit puppies and try out some of them (e.g. Dpup stretch).
These Puppies can be slightly different from Bionicpup32 but the basic "puppy" principles are the same.
Both case; Even when I listen music. The time lapse is varied
What do you mean by "total freeze"? Total freeze for me is when your system freezes (locks up) and you can't get it going again without having to reboot or switch off your machine. This is not what you are describing. You seem to always get it going again by just moving the mouse or activating the touch pad. Is this correct? Does the "freeze" also occur when you are not using/running your mediaplayer(s)? Also - run the system from a clean install without a savefile/folder and with the pfix=nocopy boot parameter and report whether you experience the same behaviour. I would also try another Puppy to see if the same problem persists.
Is the second, the system freeze until I touch the touchpad; i use the the pfix=nocopy, pfix=ram, without pfix and the problem persist (I use the pfix=nocopy and idezip for a quick on and off)
Maybe I´m wrong. But instead of "pmedia=idezip" I would use one of these:
pmedia=<atahd|ataflash|usbhd|usbflash> (depending on what device is your installation on and what pupmode you want).
"ata" means search in hard drives
"usb" means search in usb flash drives
"hd" means direct writes of the changes into the save file/folder (pupmode 12)
"flash" means accumulation of the changes in ram till the save button is used (pupmode 13)
What is the make and model of the computer?
Is this a laptop?
You answered yes.
So I now know it is a laptop.
What is the make and model????????????????????
I have an idea, but I need the information.