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How to stop web sites from loading useless junk?

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:07 am
by amethyst

This is becoming a real problem. How does one stop all this extra sh*t loading on some sites? Some sites are so resource hungry it drags my laptop to the edge and of course if you have limited data, it's a nightmare to use.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:56 am
by redandwhitestripes

Have you tried ublockorigin? It works even on Palemoon


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:23 am
by amethyst
redandwhitestripes wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:56 am

Have you tried ublockorigin? It works even on Palemoon

Wouldn't install on my 32-bit Palemoon version.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:34 am
by bigpup

Whatever browser you are using, should have blocking settings, for some stuff.
Should be some add-ons, you can use to block or limit, other stuff.

I have a very limited setting for allowed cookies, in Pale Moon browser. that I am using.
Something new, I now see more and more.
I am now noticing a lot of web sites, pop up a message, about cookies.
Asking me to allow all cookies or select to make specific settings, for what I will allow.
This I do not like and I do not know why, they think I would like this :thumbdown:

I think allowing some advertisements, on a web site, is not that bad a thing.
They have to make some money, some how!
But now they have gone to constant running videos, that do eat up speed and resources.
Those I can do without and am not going to allow, if I can.
If not able to stop these videos.
I just find a different web site.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:46 am
by redandwhitestripes
amethyst wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:23 am
redandwhitestripes wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:56 am

Have you tried ublockorigin? It works even on Palemoon

Wouldn't install on my 32-bit Palemoon version.

Are you using the Palemoon version? It used to work for me on my old 32 bit laptop. You have to select add ons from the tool section of the menu to go to the PM specific add on section, it's under the "privacy and security" section of the add ons.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:49 am
by Grey
bigpup wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:34 am

I just find a different web site.

This is the correct approach.
Some sites and services have recently begun to believe in the impossibility of replacing them with others.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:52 pm
by amethyst
redandwhitestripes wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:46 am
amethyst wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:23 am
redandwhitestripes wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:56 am

Have you tried ublockorigin? It works even on Palemoon

Wouldn't install on my 32-bit Palemoon version.

Are you using the Palemoon version? It used to work for me on my old 32 bit laptop. You have to select add ons from the tool section of the menu to go to the PM specific add on section, it's under the "privacy and security" section of the add ons.

It used to work yes, I think I had UBlock or something which was actually a specific version for Palemoon. That worked for a few months and then suddenly stopped working. I tried to download adblock latitude. Although it's listed on the official Palemoon site I don't see a download link.

Edit: I've got UBlock Origin installed. Got it from a third party repository. Now to see if it is actually of any benefit.....


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:08 pm
by amethyst
Grey wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:49 am
bigpup wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:34 am

I just find a different web site.

This is the correct approach.
Some sites and services have recently begun to believe in the impossibility of replacing them with others.

You can't replace sites like LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:33 pm
by amethyst

I can confirm that uBlock Origin seems to work well with Palemoon, even does a good job of blocking ads on youtube (Adblock Latitude stopped working with youtube, I think). Recommended, here's the download link: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-f ... legacy.xpi

And things are getting better: I have now installed this same in the Light Browser. This is now even more effective as the older Light Browser already shuts out a lot of stuff (especially some embedded video players). :thumbup:


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:49 pm
by Grey
amethyst wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:08 pm

You can't replace sites like LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

Easily. I don't use them. And I have not even died and am still cheerful in spirit :)


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:08 pm
by williwaw

https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

a script for writing your /etc/hosts file


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:23 pm
by stevie pup
Grey wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:49 pm
amethyst wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:08 pm

You can't replace sites like LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

Easily. I don't use them. And I have not even died and am still cheerful in spirit :)

Couldn't agree more Grey. I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any of that stuff, but I believe Facebook is one of the heaviest out there.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:09 pm
by mikewalsh
stevie pup wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:23 pm
Grey wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:49 pm
amethyst wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:08 pm

You can't replace sites like LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

Easily. I don't use them. And I have not even died and am still cheerful in spirit :)

Couldn't agree more Grey. I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any of that stuff, but I believe Facebook is one of the heaviest out there.

Mm-hm. Because the assumption is that, if you are on social media in the first place, then of course you want to know every time someone else coughs, sneezes, picks their nose, farts, swears, or starts contemplating their navel..! Why wouldn't you?

(Huhh...??!?) :o :shock: :roll: :roll:

It's "opium for the masses". It's a way of keeping 'em occupied....and it's a way of life I have absolutely no time for. Unfortunately, it's got so that many individuals (and organisations) will ONLY share stuff on social media.

What can you do.....especially when you're a dinosaur - like me - who doesn't even have a smartphone? (Something I hope I can do without for a good long while yet...)

Mike. ;)


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:35 am
by wiak

Are you sure Puppy Linux Discussion Forum isn't "social media"? ;-)


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:03 am
by Grey
wiak wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:35 am

Are you sure Puppy Linux Discussion Forum isn't "social media"? ;-)

Most likely. But at least it works without tension on any low-power "vacuum cleaner" and "coffee maker" :)


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:18 am
by dancytron
amethyst wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:08 pm
Grey wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:49 am
bigpup wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:34 am

I just find a different web site.

This is the correct approach.
Some sites and services have recently begun to believe in the impossibility of replacing them with others.

You can't replace sites like LinkedIn, Facebook, etc.

Youtube is another bad one but you can replace it with Freetube and the assorted youtube downloaders.

I hate facebook too, but it's the main web presence for a lot of small businesses so I have a fake name account I never post with to at least read stuff. If you use m.facebook.com instead of www.facebook.com, it gives you the mobile version which is somewhat lighter. I don't know about twitter, but other websites have mobile versions. You might even spoof the user agent settings.


Re: How to stop web sites from loading useless junk?

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:40 am
by amethyst

LinkedIn is very important for business connections, professional job seeking/offering, etc. Facebook mobile version lacks the functions of the full version. I don't use either of these sites for casual chat or other time-wasting activities. Likewise with Twitter, I use it for information purposes, for instance checking if our local transport system is running on time, etc.


Re: How to stop web sites from loading useless junk?

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:12 am
by Grey
amethyst wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:40 am

LinkedIn is very important for business connections, professional job seeking/offering, etc. Facebook mobile version lacks the functions of the full version. I don't use either of these sites for casual chat or other time-wasting activities. Likewise with Twitter, I use it for information purposes, for instance checking if our local transport system is running on time, etc.

Then you need to accept their rules of the game :) After all, you have let them into your life and you depend on them, not they on you.


Re: Heavy web sites

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:57 am
by amethyst
wiak wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:35 am

Are you sure Puppy Linux Discussion Forum isn't "social media"? ;-)

The way some topics are misunderstood or messed up, that may well be the case. Some of the chatter becomes so unrelated and off-topic it may as well be continued in the off-topic area or carried on in some social chat room.


Re: How to stop web sites from loading useless junk?

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:39 pm
by rockedge
Grey wrote:

But at least it works without tension on any low-power "vacuum cleaner" and "coffee maker"

The team works hard on keeping the this forum running and staying compatible for low powered systems, older legacy systems up to the most modern super computers. Also we keep both http and https access available.


Re: How to stop web sites from loading useless junk?

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:53 pm
by stevie pup
mikewalsh wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:09 pm

What can you do.....especially when you're a dinosaur - like me - who doesn't even have a smartphone?

Not sure that I'm going to admit to being a dinosaur just yet, but I don't have a smartphone either. What on earth am I going to do with a screen that size? I don't use my netbook very often as the 11 inch screen is too small for me, so I can't see me getting very far with a smartphone.

amethyst wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:40 am

Likewise with Twitter, I use it for information purposes, for instance checking if our local transport system is running on time, etc.

I just stand at the bus stop and wait for the bus to turn up. If it does, all well and good, if it doesn't I wait for the next one :lol:


Re: How to stop web sites from loading useless junk?

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:23 am
by Grey
stevie pup wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:53 pm
amethyst wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:40 am

Likewise with Twitter, I use it for information purposes, for instance checking if our local transport system is running on time, etc.

I just stand at the bus stop and wait for the bus to turn up. If it does, all well and good, if it doesn't I wait for the next one :lol:

By the way, buses and minibuses are a good example Image Image
Students in transport (and even respectable uncles) now call each other every two minutes. "I'll be there in five minutes. I'll be there in four. It's almost there, three. I'm already approaching the door. I'm already ringing the intercom. I can already see you approaching"Image

Therefore, Facebook is a consequence, not a cause Image Social networks only exploit the existing system and strengthen it. The main consumers love not to read, but to watch and listen. You have to shove a lot of pictures and videos, and this slows down the site on slow devices.