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Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:59 pm
by JASpup

Is the difference here ramdisk? (tmpfs)


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:55 am
by Feek

I also see similar differences.
It probably depends on how the particular program works with cached memory and buffers.
I can achieve more detailed info about memory either in terminal-> "free -m" or in Pup-Sysinfo->Devices->Memory


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:12 am
by JASpup

I assume in a basic way the 8gb nominal on the system is static.

Utilization to me is the amount used by processes (i.e., the Task Manager or htop list) AND whatever Puppy is using for file system storage. As we've discussed in other posts, cache and buffers can be released. If they are systemically well managed they're not as important for users.

My last draw with Mint before switching to Puppy was probably due to over-using ram in live (non-installed) mode. It's not conceptually lay so a user is just going to think the system is buggy or not-working when really they need to lay off the ram.

A bench or process manager is a way to do that, but if I were a programmer, I'd write an alert system sort of like a stop light that would also apply to CPU usage.

Don't crash your system by taxing it.


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:02 am
by Feek

The linux kernel reserves some space for itself. That´s why it shows less than 8,0 gb as usable.

My ram is also 8 gb, which is more than enough I think. In pupmode 13 after hard work with many apps there may be accumulated much stuff in ram - the reboot will help. With really heavy tasks I would use swap.


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:25 pm
by JASpup

I was wondering about that, but it's a separate issue.

Wondering why 8gb is less than 8gb comes before all the rest.

My last post was about a 2gb 32-bit machine, a radically different world.

I need it at least for the software that controls my surveillance camera and it's my best keyboard by far, soft touch.

I agree that 8gb doesn't leave Puppyworld wanting. The only thing bad about it I can think of is the size of a swap needed to hibernate.


Re: Reading Conky's Browser Memory Use

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:43 pm
by JASpup

If I have one or two tabs open in a lone Brave window, what do Conky's four Brave memory entries mean?


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:32 pm
by Feek

A modern browser is relatively complex program and will be running more processes than just one. Open htop and look ;)


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:38 pm
by JASpup
Feek wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:32 pm

Open htop and look ;)

According to both htop and Task Manager, Brave isn't running.

Pale Moon is (both are open).


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:26 pm
by Feek
JASpup wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:38 pm
Feek wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:32 pm

Open htop and look ;)

According to both htop and Task Manager, Brave isn't running.

Pale Moon is (both are open).

in htop press F3 and type "brave".
Was anything found (highlighted)?


Re: Memory: Task Manager vs. Conky

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:29 pm
by JASpup
Feek wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:26 pm

in htop press F3 and type "brave".
Was anything found (highlighted)?

Back in Xenial, I'd have to recreate the problem. I'm dealing mostly with booting right now and noting incidentals that arise.

I saw a bunch of bizarre stuff in there and I didn't even want to look at it because it didn't make sense.

This is supposed to be a record of system processes!